B2 License help

[lovegroove]

Hi everyone

I'm new to these forums, but would really appreciate some advice on becoming a LAE.

I spent 8 years in the RAF as a aircraft leckie and am now looking to become a LAE. I understand that I need to ave at least 1 year of civilian aviation experience, which is something I'm working on getting.

What I really want is some guidance on the academic side of becoming a LAE. I've had a quick look at some sample questions from the modules and I think I could probably sit most of them tomorrow.

Is it possible to just pay to sit the modules without having to enrol on a course and spend a fortune on training documentation? If so, where can I do this and how much is it going to cost me to sit the exams.

Do all of the modules have essay questions or is there a separate module at the end with essay questions?

I've found it really hard to find some information about this and any advice would be greatly appreciated!

Cheers,

Phil

[IFixPlanes]

...I've found it really hard to find some information about this...
Take a look here:
http://www.airmech.co.uk :ok:

[Mackrahamish]

All the information you require is here:
http://www.caa.co.uk/default.aspx?catid=177&pagetype=68&gid=777 (http://www.caa.co.uk/default.aspx?catid=177&pagetype=68&gid=777)

Details of exam dates and venues can be found here:
http://www.caa.co.uk/default.aspx?catid=177&pagetype=68&gid=197 (http://www.caa.co.uk/default.aspx?catid=177&pagetype=68&gid=197)

Exams cost £29 a pop and if you fail an exam you have to wait 90 days before you can retake!! All the exams are MC with 4 essay questions (2 on mod 7 and one each on mods 9 & 10)

You can just sit the exams without enrolling on any courses, or buying any expensive notes, but I personally would put in some serious study before attempting the exams, and certainly WOULD NOT just rely on simply learning online questions parrot fashion.

If you are still in the RAF then you could use your Resettlement to do some short courses and get as many modules under your belt as possible, or, if you have already left then you can still use your Enhanced Learning Credits to help with the financial side of things.

If you are really serious about getting your B2 then you have to be prepared to put the effort in and do some study. I spent 8 years in the RAF as Avionics, and have just completed my years civi experience, it has taken me nearly three years of self study to pass all my modules, and a lot of hard work over the past year to get my log book filled up. I can honestly say that if i had a pound for every time i heard "I’m going to do my licence" whilst in the RAF, I would be well on my way to early retirement, whereas I only actually know of 2 people who have actually gone on to do it, and not given up when they realised how much hard work it would be.

Ranting apart, if you are really serious about it, then good luck to you, there are loads of experienced guys out there who will help you through, as IFixPlanes said, take a look on www.airmech.co.uk (http://www.airmech.co.uk/) and ask the guys you work with, you never know you may even find a company willing to help with the financial side (if you are VERY lucky).

Hope this helps and GOOD LUCK. :ok:

[EGT Redline]

Have a look HERE (http://www.caa.co.uk/default.aspx?catid=177&pagetype=68) it tells you everything you need to know about licensing.

What I really want is some guidance on the academic side of becoming a LAE. I've had a quick look at some sample questions from the modules and I think I could probably sit most of them tomorrow. Is it possible to just pay to sit the modules without having to enrol on a course and spend a fortune on training documentation?
Just because you’ve managed to answer a few sample questions, do not assume that you can simply turn up and pass the exams without putting in the effort. You will FAIL miserably. There is a lot to learn outside of your previous acquired RAF knowledge.

Good luck!

[Geezer7348]

Hi there,

The only modules with essay questions are Modules 7, 9 and 10. Module 7 Maintenance Practices has 2 questions and modules 9 & 10 both have 1 question. I believe Air Service Training offer exams for most modules on the first friday of every month aswell as modular training although it looks like there isnt any further modular training until 2008.

You should have a look at www.airservicetraining.co.uk :ok:

[oilbseeingu]

Hi
Just a quick post, I was an electrician in the navy so I know what you are about to go through. I presume that leccie is electrician, in which case since the advent of jaa 66 you wont be a B2 engineer you will be a B1 as electrical systems are now part of the B1 license. B2 license is pure avionics (radio,radar,nav systems).

Of course B1 is mainly engines and airframe,:eek: so if you want to carry on working as an electrician I would advise you to start learning and gaining experiance in those 2 trades.

Best of luck in what ever you decide to do. If I can help further ask me, (I've been where you are now!!).

oilbseeingu

[BAe146s make me cry]

The EASA Part 66 B2 AML coverage (to date) allows holders
to make certification on ATA Chapter 24 distribution systems,
this would include G.C.U.s, B.C.U.s, Contactors, relays,switches etc
BUT NOT specific system components that 'interface' directly with a
mechanical system eg: Engine A.C. Generator...

Below is the link to the CAA guidance document for the B2.

http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/177/8355%20Section%20E_07.pdf

Other systems, such as ATA Chapters 21,26,28,30 are almost
no-go areas for today's B2 because of this 'mechanical interface'
Issue. Industry is more than aware of this underutilisation of B2s.

However, in reality, in the UK as of today, the B2 will invariably still be actually carrying out the B1s 'electrical system' work, certainly WRT anything to do with wiring - AND definetly if it involves troubleshooting
or more advanced fault isolation techniques/equipment.

There are plans by EASA to address this issue in the form of
a NPA (see Page 6 of 116 below). When it will actually be implemented
across all NAAs, I'm unsure. Maybe Mr Banal or Mr Nicholas will tell you?

http://www.easa.eu.int/doc/Rulemaking/NPA/NPA%202007-07.pdf

Regards

BAe146??? :{:{:{