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jpletellier
24th Sep 2007, 12:18
Apparently Cityjet Are Taking Direct Entry Captains Through Pas Avaition, Who Pay Via Offshore Accounts Giving Approx 140,000 Euros Per Year Take Home. Just Wondered If Any Permanent Crew Were Aware Of This????????

ICING AOA
24th Sep 2007, 12:30
if the contract is offshore, it means it's up to you to pay for the taxes in your country (where you spend 183 days+ per year), so that's a gross salary you are speaking about, isn't it ?

acebaxter
24th Sep 2007, 15:29
PAS seems to require full registration to view jobs. You don't happen to have this in writing somewhere you could cut and paste do you?

Thanks

Bob Down
2nd Oct 2007, 19:16
Hi acebaxter,

Spoke with PAS today. They are revamping their entire website and registration which is why the vacancies are not viewable. Should be done in next week or so apparently.

Also, jpletellier is only just 'slightly` out with the figures mentioned, more like 85,000 Euros, rather than 140,000..... I wish!!!!!!

Just for your info.

Cheers

BD

acebaxter
2nd Oct 2007, 19:22
That's what I figured. Since he never responded to the query I assumed he was just a small person stirring the pot with no better goal than to upset a few people. If it hasn't already that attitude will eventually bite him in the arse.

Not all for nothing though. He did get me digging around a bit earlier than I otherwise would have. There are some very good offers out there for a guy with a few hours under his belt. I like choices!

:)

jpletellier
27th Oct 2007, 07:53
140,000 euros is no lie thank you very much!! PAS will so everything possible to help you evade tax. Non-French pilots with PAS are taking home over 12,000 euros per month, when you sign up you are recommended to open a swiss bank account and your contract will show no basing so the tax office cannot catch up with you. I would not publish lies.

UP and Down Operator
27th Oct 2007, 10:37
jpletellier: Normally if you want to open up a Swiss bank account they want a deposit. I have been told by several banks there, that the deposit I had to come up with to get the account was 50.000 Swiss Frank. How do you get around that one ??

733driver
27th Oct 2007, 10:55
I can't believe this is still going on. If you live anywhere in the EU, or most other countries in the world for that matter, not paying income tax is illegal and will be severely punished if you get caught. Depending of the amount we are talking about you could find yourself in jail.

A swiss bank account has nothing to do with it! Neither does the base mentioned (or not) in your contract.

If you are a resident in a country it is your responsibility to report your worldwide (!) income to your tax authorities.

If you don't, someone is going to find out sooner or later! Authorities are gonna start wondering how come you have a house and two cars but yet no income...

A lot of peole will know what you are doing for a living (family, "friends", colleagues). All it takes is to upset one person that knows and reports you to the tax man.

Do you really want to hide from him for the rest of your life and be afraid to answer the door everytime the bell rings unexpected...

Make no mistake: What you are suggesting is illegal, unless you really live in one of the few countries with no income tax.

jpletellier
27th Oct 2007, 10:56
Speak to PAS aviation, they organise it all for you.

remoak
27th Oct 2007, 11:21
A swiss bank account has nothing to do with it!

Actually it has a lot to do with it. The Swiss don't (and won't, even if asked) divulge your banking information to any other authority.

Therefore, it is very hard for the tax man to prove that have an income. Even harder if you are intelligent about the way you use the money.

It may not be legal/moral/fair, but it IS effective, which is why it still goes on.

FireFoxDown
27th Oct 2007, 11:31
http://www.flightglobal.com/jobs/job/captains-united-kingdom-flight-crew-united-kingdom-10046061.htm

733driver
27th Oct 2007, 11:38
Remoak,

Actually, I don't disagree with you. But, I was saying it is illegal, and the Swiss bank account has nothing to do with that fact.

A lot of people have gotten in trouble for similar things in my country.
Boris Becker found himself in a German court although he oficcially lived in Monaco.

The father of Steffi Graf went to jail because he "managed" her income and tried to cheat.

A German tax lawyers office specialising in the field of "tax evasion for flight crew" found his offices searched by the authorities because the tax man found it unlikely that all these Lufthansa pilots actually shared one apartment in Dubai etc....

Believe me, if authorities have started wondering about your soure of income they will start digging and they will find out. I would not take the risk!

jpletellier
27th Oct 2007, 16:45
I agree, why would you take the permanent role when you can contract, and earn 140,000, the mugs are the permanent staff, and the contractors are laughing and raking all the cash!!

No_Speed_Restriction
27th Oct 2007, 19:12
With regard to a new DEC who has been offered the 70k Euro deal, can he/she expect (with duty pay etc) to net about £4000 pounds per month? Can someone who operates out of LCY shed some light?

acebaxter
28th Oct 2007, 07:26
You will be paid in euros no matter where you are based.

No_Speed_Restriction
28th Oct 2007, 09:15
but typically, out of LCY, would a DEC expect to earn 4K (inc allowances) GBP net?

acebaxter
28th Oct 2007, 09:26
My math comes up with 5600 euros after Irish taxes. No warranties express or implied.

No_Speed_Restriction
28th Oct 2007, 11:10
disclaimer received