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kiwifly
18th Sep 2007, 16:09
Hi Chaps

Just wondering if anyone has the phone ATIS'S for the following 4 Airports.

ABZ Aberdeen
IOM Isle of Man
MME Durham Tees Valley
NWI Norwich

Thanks very much.

paddyboy
18th Sep 2007, 19:21
NWI - 01603 420640

Do doubt the others are available via the AIS site.

kiwifly
18th Sep 2007, 20:26
Thanks paddyboy. Maybe they are available on that AIS web site but I sure haven't been able to find these particular ones. Maybe these Airports don't use the system...or maybe its a secret!

Racing Snake
18th Sep 2007, 23:21
try this . Put in the ICAO and below the taf is the phone number for most airports.

http://www.activitae.com/pda

Fuji Abound
19th Sep 2007, 07:12
Could I just add does anyone know of a wap mobile site that provides TAFs BUT in particular the 18 hour TAFS.

Wapmx use to do so but I think no longer works and YAWS only gives 9 hour TAFS.

fragul
19th Sep 2007, 07:16
IOM - Not available by phone.

Bravo73
19th Sep 2007, 15:23
FA,

Try www.avbrief.com (http://www.avbrief.com)

HTH


Edited to add: The WAP address is specifically: http://www.avbrief.com/wap.wml?_redir=1#lookup

Or, at least it is in my WAP bookmarks! :ok:

Slopey
19th Sep 2007, 21:16
ABZ - not availiable by phone :(

However, if you call Signature/Tower, and are nice about it - (presumably 'cos you're thinking about flying up there) they'll probably give you the current.

angelacr
20th Sep 2007, 08:05
Fuji Abound wrote:
"... does anyone know of a wap mobile site that provides TAFs BUT in particular the 18 hour TAFS."

I run YAWS at activitae.com and despite actively looking for 18 hour TAFS from free sources, they seem not to be available. Remember Avbrief's rudimentary mobile service is complimentary to those that subscribe. (Although I acknowledge that since the url is well known, free-loaders use it too.)

However, it always intrigues me when this question about 18 hour TAFs arises as to what exactly the pilot wants to do. This topic is in a GA forum and the range for most GA aircraft is under 5 hours. This means the pilot will have to land to refuel most likely well within the validity period of the 9 hour TAF. And once landed the pilot can look up fresh data.

So, Fuji Abound, what exactly do you do to actively need 18 hour TAFs, especially given that the Met Office long range F214s are available on YAWS? YAWS is not a product intended for commercial use and there are notices on activitae.com that say 'YAWS is free only for non-commercial pilots'.

Finally, everyone, an easier to remember URL for YAWS these days is the shorter http://yaws.mobi (http://yaws.mobi)

Happy flying!

Angela
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Slopey
20th Sep 2007, 09:52
Angela - excellent site by the way - has replaced avbrief pda's site in an instant! Many thanks for making it availiable to the GA community! :ok:

skydriller
20th Sep 2007, 10:03
Hi Angela,

However, it always intrigues me when this question about 18 hour TAFs arises as to what exactly the pilot wants to do. This topic is in a GA forum and the range for most GA aircraft is under 5 hours. This means the pilot will have to land to refuel most likely well within the validity period of the 9 hour TAF. And once landed the pilot can look up fresh data.

Just a guess, but I think its because most of us have a mobile (actually I dont have one, but SWMBO does) but not all of us laptops and internet connection to go with it when visiting somewhere. Personally I find that I need to plan the night before if I can fly somewhere, not just for having a plan for myself, but usually for the person the other end I will be seeing/visiting....And I fly only for fun and can be very flexible.

TV weather isnt really good enough is it?

Regards, SD.

Mariner9
20th Sep 2007, 12:57
Plenty of reasons for an 18 hour TAF, for example useful for those looking to fly a return trip somewhere with some time at the destination, and wanting to check before departure that the WX will likely be suitable for the return trip.

Bravo73
20th Sep 2007, 13:19
Or, for anyone who wants to fly tomorrow and have a more detailed projection of the weather.

Remember, the long TAFs are now for a 24hrs period (not 18!)

angelacr
20th Sep 2007, 14:39
Well, I take the points of all you 24 hour TAFers; I just work a bit differently, apparently.

I use my desktop the morning of my flight to check everything is ok weatherwise. I use the met office forms 214/215 for an overview. And also I do a TAF and METAR lookup for the route of the journey. Then when I need to return, only then do I use my mobile. And, for me, a short range TAF is more than adequate in that situation.

I'm not sure I would want to rely on a 24 hour forecast to the very last, without checking for updates. Just goes to show we all have different approaches.

Historically, I started YAWS for my own use when channel hopping. I could never feel happy at some French airfield that lacked a computer terminal, not knowing the TAFs at home. I still only tend to use my mobile only for the return flight. Just rarely I use it as a last-minute-before-I-fly-check on days when the weather looks a bit strange.

Since I now know at least 4 of you want 24 hour TAFs I'll look a bit harder to see if it can be added to YAWS.

And thanks, Guys, for the kind coments!:O Keep spreading the URL!

Angela

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IO540
20th Sep 2007, 14:51
In GA terms, the usefulness of a Long TAF is that one can plan the night before whether a flight the following day is likely or not.

The ability to look a day or three ahead is a much sought after ability, since e.g. many private pilots fly only at weekends and they need to "book" the weekend in good time, both with their other half etc and with the club or hangar owner.

For example I have to give a day's notice to get mine out of the hangar, and I have no weekend hangar access.

The only officially sanctioned longer range data is the long TAFs (which are available for major airports around Europe) and the MSLP charts.

TAFs are produced hopefully by full time specialists and should be the most accurate data you are going to get. The MSLP charts run 5 days ahead but are good for showing up major features such as fronts (OK for a go / no-go decision in most cases especially for VFR) but require expert interpretation to get anything else out of them with any reliability.

Many pilots use other data for longer range forecasts, e.g. GFS (http://www.arl.noaa.gov/ready/cmet.html).

Obviously if you are unemployed/retired, based on your own farm strip, and own your plane, and do only one-day trips, then you should never need a long TAF :)

angelacr
19th Jul 2008, 06:44
Long TAFs are now on YAWS for those stations that broadcast them.
http://yaws.mobi. I've also taken the opportunity to add a calculated Density Altitude value based on the latest METAR data. Feedback on the usefulness of DA would be helpful... I want to guard against YAWS becoming bloated.

Angela
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Red Four
19th Jul 2008, 07:35
For Info Southend/EGMC ATIS Phone is on 0871 789 1365.

chevvron
19th Jul 2008, 17:57
Nobody ever heard of Dialmet? Gives METAR and Taf :
tel 09063-800-400 then * and a code for the airfield you're searching for.

angelacr
20th Jul 2008, 09:19
Chevvron... ever heard of throwing your money away?

Dialmet is charged at 49p per minute (34p per minute off peak) including VAT... more from abroad... for single station access.

Internet access to a weather site, via a desktop PC or mobile device using WiFi, can cost you nothing, or you can pay for normal internet access via a mobile device from around 3p.


Angela
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RTN11
20th Jul 2008, 11:06
Does bournemouth still have phone ATIS?

I had a number for it years ago, but now i'm back flying here i can't find it.

angelacr
20th Jul 2008, 14:58
Do a check from YAWS (http://yaws.mobi) for weather at EGHH and you will get this "ATIS +441202364151" with the current TAF/METAR!

So there you go - you have no need to ever lose it again!

Angela
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RTN11
20th Jul 2008, 21:55
Cheers angela, that's just what i've been looking for!

IRRenewal
21st Jul 2008, 06:25
Feedback on the usefulness of DA would be helpful.

Just taken from your website:

EGSS 210450Z 30006KT 9999 SCT045 09/07 Q1020=

DENSITY ALTITUDE at EGSS: -673 feet : -205 meters.


EGSS must be about -460 feet AGL if your calculation is correct. I think you might want to look at this again.

angelacr
21st Jul 2008, 12:04
EGSS must be about -460 feet AGL if your calculation is correct. I think you might want to look at this again.

Thanks for the feedback! The algorithm has been corrected this morning after a pm from another user. I was confusing 'station pressure' with QNH. The results should be more realistic now. But, as always, double check before use.

EGSS 211120Z 31013KT 280V340 9999 FEW040 17/05 Q1022 now puts the density altitude at 500'.

Angela
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FloaterNorthWest
22nd Jul 2008, 09:32
Some may be out of date but here is my list.

Belfast City ATIS 02890 935124
Benbeccula ATIS 01870 604818
Benson ATIS 7524 01491 837766
Birmingham ATIS 0121 780 0910
Blackpool ATIS Ext 8315 01253 343434
Bournemouth ATIS 01202 364 151
Bournemouth TAF 01202 364 158
Bristol ATIS 01275 473 666
Cardiff ATIS 01446 729 319
Carlisle ATIS 01228 574123
Coventry ATIS 0870 3304789
Durham Tees Valley ATIS 09012 018111
East Midlands ATIS 3201 01332 852 852
Edinburgh ATIS 0131 333 6216
Farnborough ATIS *282 09063 800 400
Glasgow ATIS 0141 8877449
Guernsey ATIS 01481 238 957
Humberside ATIS 01652 682 020
Inverness ATIS 01667 464255
Jersey ATIS 01534 498 073
Kirkwall ATIS 01856 878476
Leeds Bradford ATIS 2489 0113 2509696
Liverpool ATIS 5150 0151 907 2000
London City ATIS 020 7646 0224
Luton ATIS 01582 395 204
Stansted ATIS 01279 669 325
Lyneham ATIS 01249 897 308
Manchester ATIS 0161 499 2324
Middle Wallop ATIS 01980 674142
Newcastle ATIS 0191 214 3400
Norwich ATIS 01603 420 640
Redhill ATIS 01737 822947
Shoreham ATIS Option 3 01273 296 898
Southampton ATIS 02380 627 103
St Mawgan ATIS 01637 857854
Stornoway ATIS 01851 707444
Warton ATIS 01772 856060
Wick ATIS 01955 607596

FNW

angelacr
23rd Jul 2008, 08:45
A useful list ...

but it would be helpful to make a distinction bewteen talking to ATC and listening to an Automated Terminal Information Service. For example the Benbeccula number is for ATC.

YAWS trys to keep an up-to-date and meaningful collection of airport numbers but depends on the goodwill of users. There is a page at activitae.com/airbase/phonebin.htm (http://activitae.com/airbase/phonebin.htm) where you can add or update phone links. I would be grateful for any input...

Angela
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angelacr
23rd Jul 2008, 13:28
thanks for EGKA EGPA EGPB EGPC EGPE EGKR - updated today!

A.

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pacificwind
20th Apr 2009, 00:48
Thanks very much for taking the time to post these. They are of invaluable use to our operation.

Red Four
20th Apr 2009, 07:55
Southend ATIS 0871 789 1365

Crash one
20th Apr 2009, 09:53
Dundee ATIS 01382 662222
Leuchars Mil (ATC switchboard) 01334 838722