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plans123
13th Sep 2007, 09:57
I've just spotted this thread over on E-Goat, which has a link to a video clip on 'The Forces Favourite' :rolleyes: website. (can't get the link to it to work on here)

E-Goat thread (http://www.e-goat.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=9356)

Bo Nalls
13th Sep 2007, 10:22
Love the byline under the vid

"British troopers narrow escape in Iraq bomb attack"

MrFlibble
13th Sep 2007, 12:31
Jesus H, that was one big bang - looked more like a MOAB or a low-yield nuclear weapon, even down to the mushroom cloud with the halo...

We're not carrying Davy Crocketts round Afghanistan these days, are we?:)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davy_Crockett_%28nuclear_device%29

In Support of Ops
13th Sep 2007, 15:05
:* This is definately NOT COOL. When this video hit U tube, measures were taken to have it removed. Oh don't be so sensitive you say. Well, this stuff in the public domain hands the insurgents top quality BDA, they have internet too. They know they badly damaged a coalition ac but would not have been able to get near it to assess the results fully. They know how, where and what size of device was used, they now know how to refine it to not only damage aircraft but to be more effective against the personnel too. The SUN say they support our troops, their actions say differently, this kind of careless release of video really could get people (ours) killed. Makes me FXXXXXG angry. I only hope if/when this happens again we are as lucky to get away without any casualties, or that the asshole that released this video is on board and is one of the first killed. :ugh:

Grabbers
13th Sep 2007, 17:16
The Sun do not have the link on any longer. Spoilsports!

serf
13th Sep 2007, 18:31
No, now goes onto Paddington Bear!

BlackBirdBaz
13th Sep 2007, 19:28
My lad was on that flight and when the news is officially released there are some very very interesting pics to come out, but currently :mad: :eek:

Phil_R
13th Sep 2007, 19:56
I think it's possible to overreact to the security issue here.

I base this opinion on the fact that my explosives experience is limited to pyrotechnic effects for the film and TV industry, yet on the exalted basis of my fifteen year old technology GCSE and access to a modest quantity of military explosives, I'd be pretty disappointed to do merely this (http://images.thesun.co.uk/picture/0,,2007421476,00.jpg) to a C-130.

OK, so the default approach here is caution, but this was done by people who have lots and lots of explosives experience and already know that what they did worked. I'm not sure we're really capable of hiding anything useful from them.

Phil

Shiney Pencil
14th Sep 2007, 09:22
This incident actually happened earlier in the year somewhere around Jan-Feb. Watched it live in the CAOC.

Fg Off Max Stout
14th Sep 2007, 09:36
So the Sun gets told to take down the video for security reasons and replaces it with the relevant still picture.

Nice one. The forces favourite newspaper (or some such b0llocks)!

Phil_R
I'd be pretty disappointed to do merely this to a C-130.

They Cat5ed the aircraft. A kill's a kill, as they say. I imagine the bad guys were not disappointed.

In Support of Ops
14th Sep 2007, 14:23
Yes Mike I too suspect "they" are very disappointed that their device did not kill anybody. Still "they" now know the extent of the damage and where on the frame it occurred and can now adjust the siting, spacing, timing of the next attempt, based on the evidence we gave them! :eek:.
I do dispair sometimes at the stupidity of the grunts in the field with a mobile phone. :ugh:

In Support of Ops
14th Sep 2007, 15:44
An old line but valid none the less:

"They only need to be lucky once, we need to be lucky all the time"

The device was very well concealed, the area was swept, it was not found. No more detail from me, suffice to say the concerns about the effects this video/photo info being in the public domain are based on facts not press guess work.

BlackBirdBaz
14th Sep 2007, 19:44
<<<< I do dispair sometimes at the stupidity of the grunts in the field with a mobile phone.>>>>

I assume by making that statement that you are convinced it was the soldiers on the ground that took the images then and not the aircrew, or the medics that were along for the jolly or the special forces demolition team ?

You should be a reporter for The Sun :ugh:

BlackBirdBaz
14th Sep 2007, 19:58
Why would you say that ?

BlackBirdBaz
14th Sep 2007, 20:09
I wasn't assuming :ok:

My son was on that flight :D

BlackBirdBaz
14th Sep 2007, 20:18
I am aware of stepping over the mark here but that demolition wasn't the only attempt to destroy the aircraft. A passing F15 also had some target practice.

BlackBirdBaz
14th Sep 2007, 20:34
It is unclear whether your last post was aimed at me, but if so, I am not speculating and I am not assuming. I am 'fortunate' enough to have seen dozens of images and several videos covering the period of the incident.

I am not being mischievous, purely saying it as it is.

nigegilb
14th Sep 2007, 20:38
BBZ, not at all, my comments were not aimed at you.

nigegilb
14th Sep 2007, 20:45
Mods, wouldn't normally say this, but I reckon this thread should be pulled.

BlackBirdBaz
14th Sep 2007, 20:45
Apologies for thinking they were. :)