Working conditions at China Eastern

[localiserreborn]

Hello everybody,

Does anybody have info about China Eastern. There is very little on pprune and nothing fresh. They are offering bases on the A340 at LAX and CDG for DEC. Is anybody already in place or is it a new operation from these places?

Any info about airline environment and package offered?


Cheers,

Loc

:ok:

[SV4L]

here we go
The requirement will be for a number of captains on both aircraft, with a number of bases, including specified base in CDG and LAX for A340 captains and Shanghai for A330 captains. The contract will be for a period of 3 years renewable.
Qualifications required:-
5,000 hours Total Time
Qualified PIC on Airbus 330 or 340
ICAO licence
Current type rating on ATP licence / first class medical
Fluency in English Language
LPC within last six months.
No accidents/incidents/criminal record.
The Airline will accept A320 captains who require recurrent or CCQ training subject to the cost of US$32000 CCQ training fee paid in advance by individual A320 captains which will be reimbursed in full having completed two years service with the Airline.
Brief details are as follows:
Airline China Eastern
Position A330 & A340 Captains
Duration 3 years (extendable)
Commencement Date To be confirmed, subject to pilots assessment
and medical exam in China
Operational Base A330 in Shanghai; A340 LAX and CDG
Fee payable US$ 7200 for initial training period and US$9000 per month thereafter (US$120 per hour with guaranteed 75 hours per month)
Block hours per month 75 hours, more hours for A330 captains based in Shanghai if preferred
Working pattern and off days 28 days annual leave, 2 return tickets are provided to China Eastern destinations
Maximum 10 days paid annual sick leave (30 days if hospitalized)
Maximum 5 days paid annual other emergency leave
8 off days per month, return tickets provided to China Eastern destinations.
Return tickets provided for start/finish contract 100kg luggage permitted
Accommodation Provided for A330 captains based in shanghai, on-duty accommodation provided in LA and Paris.
Transport Positioning flights and ground transport for operational purposes provided
Flight pay As per China Eastern own crew member. e.g.
US$180 from Shanghai to LAX
If you would like to be considered, please let me know as soon as possible. In order that we may consider your application to join China Eastern, would you kindly complete and sign the attached application form which confirms that you will be represented by Brookfield Aviation International with China Eastern and return to us by email together with copies of latest CV/Resume if not already supplied, licence, medical, passport, last two pages of logbook and last PC.
A technical examination and medical is taken in the first instance, at the same time as the airline conduct their interviews (shanghai).
We will be holding an Open Day in Frankfurt on the 25th of September. Representatives from Both China Eastern and Brookfield Aviation will be present on the day. This is an excellent opportunity for captains to speak directly to the management of China Eastern and get all the information you need to know about working for China Eastern and find out all the details of the package on offer.
As there are a limited number of places at this event, please write back at your earliest convenience to confirm that you wish to attend. Detailed venue and itinerary will follow.
no perdiem :{, medical i don t known
fly safe
SV4L

[Chinos]

G'day,

I have read the post with interest and wonder if anyone is already flying with China Eastern and can perhaps pm me with some of the working conditions?

I wonder about rostering and some operational prcatices in place at CE...?

Many thanks and happy days :cool::cool:

[localiserreborn]

Thanks SV4L,

Cheers,

Loc

:ok:

[actu8]

Reference the pay and conditions as posted for MU (China Eastern) "courtesy" of Brookfield Aviation.

Note the actual cost of the CCQ from A320 to A330 is much higher than it may first appear, Before you ask your family to put a lien on the house for the bond money of 32K USD consider the following...

The going rate Salary/per diems for a DEC on wide-body Airbus is a minimum 2K/mo USD above that advertised for MU. Over the course of the 3 year contract this is +72K USD in potential lost income over next lowest competing contract.

Many of the DEC positions are NET income. Are the Chinese taxes paid on the gross income advertised of 9.4 to 9.6K/mo? For persons based outside of China, domestic taxes are also owed on this income. The net amount remaining for a European/USA based pilot could be very low indeed.

When other contracts have 10 to 14 days at base plus travel days, what is the cost of only 8 days off? Even at the low gross salary advertised this is less a minimum of 300USD/day.

Are there additional travel costs/time to travel to from the nominated base of LAX/CDG?

For non USA residents, is there any protection against further decrease to the US dollar? Cost of living adjustments over the 3 year term?

When is the bond amount charged to the applicant? Failures of the Chinese medical or ATPL written are common. Is the bond money to be paid before or after these items?

Cost of expat medical coverage?

So a few financial items to consider easily amounting to over one hundred thousand US dollars over the three year contract. And when that is completed can the rating be carried over to a JAR/FAA etc. license? Most local authorities require evidence of an approved course, certified "real" command hours and a SIM check with a state approved TRE. So, is it possible to carry over the rating and who is to pay for it?

Perhaps the myriad of other contractual concerns will be covered at the open house. As there are less than 10 DEC's operating the A330 for MU and they are on a different (better) contract, there may be little information forthcoming about "existing conditions". Some of these DECs will complete their contracts and return from secondment to Qantas.

Best of luck to those considering the contract. It could be an exciting adventure. Do keep your eyes open though as other CCQ contracts may have more to offer.

[Dani]

there are no other CCQ offers in the whole wide world!