Kopterman
5th Sep 2007, 17:49
Dear all,
in 2005, I completed the ATPL(H) Theory Course, passing ALL of the 13 Exams. However, since making enquiries to finally do my CPL(H) Course, I'm told that I my have to do an additional exam? (Performance, I think)?
Has anybody else been confronted with this, despite being told at the time it would be valid for 3yrs? If so, what was the outcome?
Also, I'm thinking of doing the CPL(H) out in the US as the prices are too good to ignore and it can be done on the Visa Waiver! So, if anyone has any recommendations I would be grateful, otherwise it looks like I might go to Bristows (formerly HAI) as they operate many S300's.
Many thanks in advance,
Kopterman :ugh:
I have searched Lazors, as below and also JAR FCL 2 Subpart J:
D4.3 JAR-FCL CPL(H) THEORETICAL
KNOWLEDGE EXAMINATION
REQUIREMENTSCandidates with national CPL/H theoretical
passes
Candidates who failed to achieve a full pass in the
former UK national CPL(H) theoretical knowledge
examinations will be required to pass all the JAR-FCL
theoretical knowledge examinations. However,
provided they have a pass in at least one of the former
UK national theoretical knowledge subjects, the
amount of ground instruction needed to prepare them
for the JAR examinations will be at the discretion of the
approved training provider.
CPL(H) Modular and CPL(H) Integrated
CoursesAn applicant from either course must pass the nine
CPL(H) Theoretical Knowledge examination in the
following subjects:
Air Law
Aircraft General Knowledge
Flight Performance and Planning
Human Performance and Limitations
Meteorology
Navigation
Operational Procedures
Principles of Flight
Communications (VFR)
ATPL(H) Integrated Course
An applicant from this course must pass the fourteen
ATPL(H) Theoretical Knowledge examination in the
following subjects:
Air Law
Aircraft General Knowledge (2 papers)
Flight Performance and Planning (3 papers)
Human Performance and Limitations
Meteorology
Navigation (2 papers)
Operational Procedures
Principles of Flight
Communications (2 papers)
JAR-FCL theoretical knowledge acceptance
period – *warning*
Potential candidates for the JAR-FCL CPL(H) should
first consider the implications of JAR-FCL 2.495 that
relates to the Acceptance Period.
A pass in the theoretical knowledge examinations given
in accordance with JAR-FCL 2.490 will be accepted for
the grant of the CPL(H) or IR(H) during the 36 months
from the end of the month of the date of gaining a pass
in all the required examination papers*. Provided that
an IR(H) is obtained in accordance with the above, a
pass in the ATPL(H) theoretical knowledge
examination will remain valid for a period of 7 years
from the last validity date of the IR(H) entered in the
CPL(H) for the issuance of an ATPL(H).
* All requirements for the issue of the CPL(H) and IR(H)
must be met and the applicant required to apply to PLD
for issue within the 36 month validity period of the
theoretical knowledge examinations.
Credits from JAR-FCL Theoretical
Examinations
• An applicant who has previously passed the VFR
Communications examination at CPL(H) level,
and have been issued with a CPL(H) will not be
re-examined in subject VFR Communications at
ATPL(H) level.
• An applicant who has previously passed the IFR
Communications examination at IR level, and
have been issued with an IR(H) will not be
re-examined in subject IFR Communications at
ATPL(H) level.
• The holder of a valid JAR-FCL CPL(A) will be
required to complete the appropriate bridging
examinations at CPL(H) level (see Section J1.9)
or all the examinations at ATPL(H) level.
• The holder of a valid JAR-FCL ATPL(A) will be
required to complete the bridging examination
requirements appropriate to the level of
examinations being taken (see Section J1.9).
DETAILS OF THE ABOVE EXAMINATIONS, PASS
RULES, VALIDITY PERIODS, ETC, ARE GIVEN IN
JAR-FCL 2, SUBPART J.
in 2005, I completed the ATPL(H) Theory Course, passing ALL of the 13 Exams. However, since making enquiries to finally do my CPL(H) Course, I'm told that I my have to do an additional exam? (Performance, I think)?
Has anybody else been confronted with this, despite being told at the time it would be valid for 3yrs? If so, what was the outcome?
Also, I'm thinking of doing the CPL(H) out in the US as the prices are too good to ignore and it can be done on the Visa Waiver! So, if anyone has any recommendations I would be grateful, otherwise it looks like I might go to Bristows (formerly HAI) as they operate many S300's.
Many thanks in advance,
Kopterman :ugh:
I have searched Lazors, as below and also JAR FCL 2 Subpart J:
D4.3 JAR-FCL CPL(H) THEORETICAL
KNOWLEDGE EXAMINATION
REQUIREMENTSCandidates with national CPL/H theoretical
passes
Candidates who failed to achieve a full pass in the
former UK national CPL(H) theoretical knowledge
examinations will be required to pass all the JAR-FCL
theoretical knowledge examinations. However,
provided they have a pass in at least one of the former
UK national theoretical knowledge subjects, the
amount of ground instruction needed to prepare them
for the JAR examinations will be at the discretion of the
approved training provider.
CPL(H) Modular and CPL(H) Integrated
CoursesAn applicant from either course must pass the nine
CPL(H) Theoretical Knowledge examination in the
following subjects:
Air Law
Aircraft General Knowledge
Flight Performance and Planning
Human Performance and Limitations
Meteorology
Navigation
Operational Procedures
Principles of Flight
Communications (VFR)
ATPL(H) Integrated Course
An applicant from this course must pass the fourteen
ATPL(H) Theoretical Knowledge examination in the
following subjects:
Air Law
Aircraft General Knowledge (2 papers)
Flight Performance and Planning (3 papers)
Human Performance and Limitations
Meteorology
Navigation (2 papers)
Operational Procedures
Principles of Flight
Communications (2 papers)
JAR-FCL theoretical knowledge acceptance
period – *warning*
Potential candidates for the JAR-FCL CPL(H) should
first consider the implications of JAR-FCL 2.495 that
relates to the Acceptance Period.
A pass in the theoretical knowledge examinations given
in accordance with JAR-FCL 2.490 will be accepted for
the grant of the CPL(H) or IR(H) during the 36 months
from the end of the month of the date of gaining a pass
in all the required examination papers*. Provided that
an IR(H) is obtained in accordance with the above, a
pass in the ATPL(H) theoretical knowledge
examination will remain valid for a period of 7 years
from the last validity date of the IR(H) entered in the
CPL(H) for the issuance of an ATPL(H).
* All requirements for the issue of the CPL(H) and IR(H)
must be met and the applicant required to apply to PLD
for issue within the 36 month validity period of the
theoretical knowledge examinations.
Credits from JAR-FCL Theoretical
Examinations
• An applicant who has previously passed the VFR
Communications examination at CPL(H) level,
and have been issued with a CPL(H) will not be
re-examined in subject VFR Communications at
ATPL(H) level.
• An applicant who has previously passed the IFR
Communications examination at IR level, and
have been issued with an IR(H) will not be
re-examined in subject IFR Communications at
ATPL(H) level.
• The holder of a valid JAR-FCL CPL(A) will be
required to complete the appropriate bridging
examinations at CPL(H) level (see Section J1.9)
or all the examinations at ATPL(H) level.
• The holder of a valid JAR-FCL ATPL(A) will be
required to complete the bridging examination
requirements appropriate to the level of
examinations being taken (see Section J1.9).
DETAILS OF THE ABOVE EXAMINATIONS, PASS
RULES, VALIDITY PERIODS, ETC, ARE GIVEN IN
JAR-FCL 2, SUBPART J.