JOBS in Australia

[sunny_liverpool]

I am a Hong Kong resident. Currently studying in High school.

I want to take a Diploma in Perth after graduated from high school in 2008 summer. After complete the Diploma, I can have a CPL.

Do you think I should get a IR as well?

and the next two years I will study in Year 2 and 3 in one of the University in Perth.

Do you think I can get a part-time flying job(instrutor or charter pilot) in this 2 years?

finally, what do you think the future of pilots jobs in Australia?

Do i have better advantage in taking Cadet in Cathay Pacific since it is HK-based airline?

Do i have chance to work in AUSTRALIA?

[sunny_liverpool]

noone helps?????T________T

[lee_apromise]

no citizenship & no permanent residency = no airline job in Australia

[sunny_liverpool]

wont they " sponsor " or give any help on non-PR in Australia???

[Luke SkyToddler]

No. They won't.

[sunny_liverpool]

but i do see some aviation college or university do say" sponsor " or help u gain work permit
appreciate if you explain in details rather just no

[Luke SkyToddler]

Yeah there are flying schools that will arrange a STUDENT visa for you - that lets you stay in Australia (not to work) while you are studying.

But, there is no possibility of gaining permanent residence of Australia to work as a pilot after you finished your training. Once you've spent your money you have to leave.

So basically you have to either marry an Aussie girl, or start studying for the Cathay cadet scheme. You're going to have a stressful existence either way :E

[lee_apromise]

That's why I'm doing bachelor of engineering first before getting ATPL in Australia haha. Better get PR first.

[sunny_liverpool]

why? because of the shortage of engineers??

how about commerce or accounting??

because after i have finished the one-year flying diploma, i may choose to further study on my Year 2 and 3 in Murdoch U, which is a Commerce degree

besides, is there any temproary work visa, like 457 visa......that can allow me to work for them trmproarily to earn flying hours for better emplyment prospect

[dream747]

Hi lee,

Are you doing it in a university in Australia? I believe it's no longer that easy to gain PR anymore in Australia?

[sunny_liverpool]

having looked at the Immigration website, only one kind of many enginners are listed on the " demand " list..

but i know that " accountants " and " nurses " are always in great demand in AUSTRALIA

my friend studying nurse has granted visa easily for further working in Sydney after graduated. she is now practising in one of the hospitalis in Syd

[lee_apromise]

Yup. I'm studying mechanical engineering in the university of queensland.
I'm just doing it to earn money to do CPL + IR training so I can go back to South Korea to join an LCC domestic airline (which requires only TT 250hr with CPL + IR for korean national).

There's a list of occupations which Australia is having shortage.

"ALL" engineering diciplines are PR eligible upon graduation. (I don't know about naval engineering offered in UNSW or others that are not on the list).

Other degrees that are eligible for PR is nurse, education, accounting and more I can't remember.

Getting PR is easy if you study a degree that is on that list otherwise you will never get it. Getting citizenship is now a lot harder than before. The requirement changed from 2 years to 4 years that you will have to be in Australia for before applying for citizenship. Hope this helps.

[richie-rich]

"pilots" used to get 50 points towards 115-120 point requirement set out by the Immigration Department towards PR. It has long changed and currently sits at 0. So, as a CPL+IR, you are no longer deemed as someone who can contribute to skilled shortage of migrants.

Best thing to do is to study towards a degree that gives you 60 points (like nursing, engineering etc. check out www.dima.gov.au ) and keep on doing ur flight training during your holidays. That was, by the end of your course, you can apply for Temporary Residence. But then again, in order to get PR, you need to be working in a relavant field of study (what you studied at uni, according to new DIMA rule) atleast a year out of two years as a TR. Only after that, you can apply for PR, and can start looking for jobs here. My suggestion would be to go back to home country, build hours up, and then come back when you have enough hours to apply to the low costs like DJ and J*.

Take care and all the best!
Richie

[dream747]

Hi guys thanks very much for the help. I did thought of going over to Australia to do my undergraduate studies as well and do the flying during the semester breaks and holidays. But financial wise it works out to be a bomb with this 2 combined. Is anyone currently going down this route?

I would expect that the total university course fees to work out to 92K AUD at the end of 4 years (for engineering)? What is the realistic amount on average one has to set aside for living expenses? Haven't added in the flight training yet!

Feel free to PM me if it's more appropriate. Thanks very much guys appreciate it.

[richie-rich]

best suggestion is to go to a uni and do a course over 4 years that would cost you around the 50k mark, and then set aside another 35K for flying. I had to do it and most of it was working back home and part time job in aus.

i suggest you thoroughly check out all the flight schools and compare the prices. if smart, you can do your bachelors degree on your student visa, and choose a cheaper flight school (not necessarily one that is authorized to grant you a student visa). and from day one, start working and saving. NO night clubs or pubs := try not to get hold of a sheila to keep ur junior happy. been there done that. only to repent at the end!

all the best, buddy!
Richie