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JackoSchitt
17th Aug 2007, 23:47
Reviewing the current NOTAMS, as one does, and I see this gem...

ATS C3541/07
ON-REQUEST FLIGHT INFORMATION (FIS), SARTIME AND EMERGENCY
ALERTING SERVICES NORMALLY PROVIDED BY FLIGHTWATCH ON DISCRETE VHF
FREQUENCIES ARE NOT AVBL
DUE TO STAFF SHORTAGE.

SERVICES AFFECTED:
ON-REQUEST FLIGHT INFORMATION (FIS), SARTIME AND EMERGENCY ALERTING
SERVICES PROVIDED BY FLIGHTWATCH ON DISCRETE VHF FREQUENCIES

118.4 ARGYLE
118.95 MANINGRIDA
119.4 BUNDABERG AND TOWNSVILLE
120.1 GOVE
120.15 TINDAL
120.7 PERTH
121.1 SYDNEY
121.3 WESTERN VICTORIA
121.6 PORT MACQUARIE, WILLIAMTOWN AND SCONE AREAS
122.1 ARMIDALE, GLEN INNES AND COFFS HARBOUR AREAS
122.3 DARWIN
124.0 WALGETT, MOREE, COOLAH AND CAIRNS AREA
124.1 ALICE SPRINGS AND MOUNT ISA AREAS
124.15 PORT HEDLAND
124.95 CENTRAL VICTORIA AND THURSDAY ISLAND AREAS
128.15 NORTHERN NSW AREA
128.2 WHITSUNDAY ISLAND AREA
128.55 MILDURA
128.75 MAROOCHYDORE/BRISBANE AREAS
133.45 ROCKHAMPTON/GLADSTONE AREAS
133.95 ADELAIDE AREA
134.85 MUDGEE AREA
134.9 WHYALLA AREA
135.05 SOUTHERN NSW
135.6 EASTERN VICTORIA
135.75 ADELAIDE

ON-REQUEST FLIGHT INFORMATION (FIS), SARTIME AND EMERG ALERTING
SERVICES AVAILABLE ON ATC FIA FREQUENCIES OR HF (REFER ERSA FAC-B
BRISBANE ACC/FIC AND FAC-M MELBOURNE ACC/FIC).
FROM 08 192200 TO 08 240100 EST
DAILY 2200/0100

Interesting times for all ahead me thinks...

Dog One
18th Aug 2007, 03:41
Does this mean all of Northern Australia will not have Flightwatch available? Will Centre cover the areas whilst Flightwatch is unavailable? Will Airservices Australia refund the enroute charges for those operators affected?

ForkTailedDrKiller
18th Aug 2007, 03:45
Has Flightwatch EVER been available on VHF?

I have never managed to raise them!

Dr :cool:

JackoSchitt
18th Aug 2007, 05:06
Doggie,

The standalone Flightwatch service provided on the frequencies nominated in the NOTAM (ERSA lists them as "FIS Flightwatch") will be not available across the entire country - that is; the *whole* lot of 'em.

The existing mechanisms of getting FIS from ATC on FIA VHF frequencies or HF is still available.

The ATC FIA frequencies are listed in ERSA FAC-B "Brisbane ACC/FIC" and FAC-M "Melbourne ACC/FIC" as either "ACC/FIA" or simply "FIA".

JackoSchitt
18th Aug 2007, 05:10
FTD,

Yes.

Chimbu chuckles
18th Aug 2007, 06:13
FTDK I did...once...in SE Victoria.:ok:

Looks like that'll be it though...vale VFR flight following.:sad:

OZBUSDRIVER
18th Aug 2007, 06:21
Chuck, I think Flight Following is only available from ATC on work permitting basis.

That list is the entire network. Why not just say so in the first place?

Chadzat
18th Aug 2007, 06:28
Am I reading the times in the NOTAM correctly? Why have they put it in Eastern Standard Time and not UTC.

So according to the NOTAM no VHF flight watch between 10pm and 1am EST?

CaptainMidnight
18th Aug 2007, 07:16
"EST" after the end time in a NOTAM means "estimated", not eastern standard time ........

Meaning the UTC DTG given may be extended. No "EST" means the NOTAM will self-expire at the given end time.

On-request FIS services will be available on ATC frequencies, so it's not the end of the world.

Bullethead
18th Aug 2007, 07:39
Captain Midnight you are correct,.
Edited as I was wrong. :rolleyes:

Spodman
18th Aug 2007, 10:40
Chuck, I think Flight Following is only available from ATC on work permitting basis.
No, just the other stuff has priority. RIS we can decline due workload, but FIS must be provided, just at less priority than avoiding welding aircraft together.

44WING
18th Aug 2007, 22:34
Commerically experienced management trying to run a service industry. The standard user-pays joke of failure to sustain and provide infrastructure and service provision. So what did you expect.