Simple Q about ATPL exams

[TKflyer]

hi everybody, i am hearing some rumors about atpl questions that if we memorize questions from CAT or Bristol, we have %80 percent to give each exam...is it true? except some courses like mass, gen navi. like that....
If you guys can give me n advice how to study method i can have to pass all exams..thnx to all.....

[Stumpyotoole]

best way to pass the exams: do the reading, do the work and back it up with the feedback. its impossible not to memorise some of the answers to the feedback questions, but its not advisable to conciously do so - if they decide to change a word or number, the answer you've memorised is likely to be wrong!

mass and balance, gen nav and flight planning are definitely ones where you have to know the methodology to answer the questions.

However you approach it, its hard work but well worth it once they're over!


good luck

[coodem]

You might have a slim chance on passing the ATPL's, but it will show when it comes to your flying and most importantly that interview

[captain_rossco]

Where's your sense of responsibility!!!!!

Come on amigo, it will be written all over your face at interview if you dont actually know the subject matter.

We'll not be too quick to judge though as you haven't said yet that you were planning on using this technique!!


Regards

CR

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[MarkColeman]

I've gotten 5 first time passes so far rossco, ive found so far that bristol is a very useful tool to use for the exams, but i use it 50/50 with studying the books.

Certainly use bristol and other question banks to study with, ive seen people go into the exams having not used question banks, and theyre just shooting themselves in the foot by doing that, but if you rely solely on question banks you wont get first time passes and for some of the harder subjects like met you'll really suffer.

[Mercenary Pilot]

if we memorize questions from CAT or Bristol, we have %80 percent to give each exam...is it true?

Probably. The ATPL's seem to have just become a cash sink but at least its fair now, it used to be only those who had contacts had a copy of the question bank but now everyone can use it.

I remember the CAA saying they were going to clamp down on it and prosecute people for cheating but it never happened. I think if they are going to continue to allow this, then we should switch to the FAA system of open question bank and 1 ATPL exam...and not charge £750 for the privilege!

However, that said. If you have only studied the question bank you will look a bit silly at an interview.

[No Country Members]

I'd recommend using the question bank without answers at first, as a learning method. Once you have looked up and understood the questions you have a thorough knowledge of the subject whether you want it or not, plus after having gone through the questions two or three times, you pretty well know them anyway.

I agree with the comment re £750 fees - is that what it costs now? Jeez!

[smith]

In many countries, USA for example, the requirement of a degree, no matter what subject it is in, is a prerequisite for employment as a pilot. Consequently they do not have an equivalent of "ATPL's".

In the UK and most of Europe there is no real need for a degree let alone GCSE's to gain an airline job thus the ATPL's are designed to show that you have initiative to read and absorb masses of information and organise your time accordingly. In effect it is a mini-degree style course which negates the necessity of four years at university. As I said earlier in the USA there is no stipulation what subject your degree is in, it is the mere fact that you have a degree that sets you aside. This is not true in all cases but generally a degree is required.

Thus the ATPL's are designed to put everyone on a level playing field and is a measure of being able to have the resiliance to pass the course. I have a degree already and can hardly remember any of the subject matter. It is nigh on impossible to remember every exact fact learned in the ATPL's so just get the pass marks in the bag whichever method you use.

[Danie1983]

Dear All.. I am badly looking for the latest CAA Performance A (CA2) question banks.. I went to the exam on the 7th Aug after studying for months and the CAA changes the form of question therefore I got a hard time in the exam and for sure I fail..

anyone can help me guys? specially the Malaysian guys from MFA... my exam question paper was number 4417

you may email me if you got any help for that killer subject: [email protected] .. thanks alot

Danie

[Grass strip basher]

Why not learn the fundamentals rather than relying on question banks then it won't matter what format the questions are in you will still be able to have a fair shot at passing?!?

[Windy Pants]

There is no substitute for doing the theory, but the question banks do help familiarise yourself with the weird and wonderful ways that the JAA can manipulate the english language. Some of the questions are so badly worded and phrased that sometimes even if you do know the answer you can still end up choosing the wrong one because you've misunderstood the question!

As many have said and will say again these exams should be a test of your knowledge, not a test of your ability to interpret their badly phrased questions.

Use the question banks as an additional learning aid, but under no circumstances use it to "Parrot fashion" learn the answers (except for Air Law!:ugh:) all it takes is a few number changes and you'll have a completely different set of answers.

I've done hardcore studying, but also completmented it with the question banks and have got all first time passes with a 95% average. There's my pennies worth!!

[sawaya]

lets be honest lads the fact even after reading the manuals ten times it would be hard to pass all 14 first time the fact that you have already seen the question before, is still tantamount to sought of cheating yourslf