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Choppersquad
22nd Jul 2007, 22:14
Guys
Has anyone flown a Hindustan Aeronautics Dhruv helicopter looks a nice machine.Is this machine used outside India.

Your thoughts on this helicopter.

thanks
choppersquad.

206Fan
22nd Jul 2007, 22:48
Is this it?? Looks like a EC145 with the nose slightly changed and AW139 landing gear!

http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/images/AIR_Dhruv_ALH_Naval_lg.jpg

Choppersquad
22nd Jul 2007, 23:50
That,s it. Have you flown it.
Never seen one over this side of the pond.

choppersquad

206Fan
22nd Jul 2007, 23:56
God no i haven't got me PPL (H) yet lol. Never seen one before!

Bravo73
23rd Jul 2007, 08:45
IIRC, the Dhruv has yet to achieve FAA or JAA certification so you are unlikely to see any working over here. I do, however, think that some have been sold to the Israeli military.

The Indian Air Force did bring some to Farnborough last year to display. There are photos in the 'ROTORHEADS AROUND THE WORLD' thread somewhere.

And although it 'looks' like an EC-145, it is considerably larger. About 2 tonnes larger, I think.


HTH,

B73



PS Try asking Google. Google knows everything! ;)
Edited to add: Actually, before you ask Google, try asking PPRuNe! A search on 'Dhruv' will throw up a few previous references (including the Farnborough shots.)

VeeAny
23rd Jul 2007, 10:24
Video of Dhruv in action with Indian Army DIsplay Team (I think called the Sarangs)

http://www.griffin-helicopters.co.uk/videos/playonevideo.asp?videokey=480

Hippolite
23rd Jul 2007, 11:08
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x191/timhcollins/DSC00151Medium.jpg

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x191/timhcollins/DSC00141Medium.jpg

Indfly
24th Jul 2007, 19:58
The Chopper is called a ALH(Advanced Light Helicopter)..Indian Name-Dhruv.5.5 tonner.got all the latest gizmos/tech..FADEC,incorporated hingeless composite main rotor with elastomeric bearings, a bearingless composite tail rotor, integrated dynamic transmission system, FADEC and crashworthy composite airframe.a big beginning for a 1st time manufacturer.

Its still is going through teething pblms,,,TGB cracks,Chip wx coming on.

Brilliant Stuff
24th Jul 2007, 20:25
I am not convinced by it's looks but by what Indfly is saying it's beastie to be reckoned with. We will see.

Oogle
25th Jul 2007, 06:42
Eurocopter had a big part to play in helping the Indians develop the ALH.

You can see in the cockpit that the fire warning panel and torque gauges are straight out of the BK117.

From what I understand, the performance of the aircraft is quite good.

But then again, I have never flown one. :O

ubique
25th Jul 2007, 08:47
Bravo 73.
The aircraft at Farnborough were from Hindustani Aeronautics Limited (HAL) despite some of them being in Indian Air Force paint scheme.

I was fortunate to be invited to fly one of them at the show, not I hasten to add, in the show! A short 15 minute trip from the heliport out to the Guildford area and back again. In such a short time and with the limitations that the show imposed it was not possible to make a thorough investigation of the aircraft but first impressions were very favourable.

The aircraft was smooth fast and very responsive. A high equivalent hinge offset made for high control power and overall the aircraft reminded me of the Lynx. The four axis autopilot was very effective and with the efis IFR should make SPIFR readily possible.

The HAL Chief Test Pilot told me that the aircraft had been designed so as to take significant loads high into the Himalayas so performance should be good in less testing regimes.

I was very impressed by the aircraft and I believe that HAL, helped in the design by MBB have come up with a good aircraft. When it is FAA and/or JAA approved it will be worth looking at but its success will depend on purchase and operating costs.

Bravo73
25th Jul 2007, 09:54
Bravo 73.
The aircraft at Farnborough were from Hindustani Aeronautics Limited (HAL) despite some of them being in Indian Air Force paint scheme.


Ah, thanks.

That was just a (hazy recollection and) presumption on my part. I seem to remember the pilots being dressed in IAF gear. If they were, I guess that they were probably on secondment to HAL.

But from what you say, it sounds like a nice aircraft (designed to do a particular job in a particular environment.)

Ian Corrigible
13th Jul 2009, 19:49
It's never a good sign when your helicopter design dispays a lack of installed power...after having already been reengined... :ooh:

Indian Comptroller and Auditor General blasts Dhruv project
(http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India/CAG-blasts-Dhruv-project-Krasnopol-purchase/articleshow/4763861.cms)

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