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The Guvnor
22nd Sep 2000, 22:26
Someone was asking about these a while back, so I thought I'd post the following links:

SAPS: http://www.saps.co.za/7_crimeprev/7_nig.htm

US: http://home.rica.net/alphae/419coal/index.htm

Fascinating stuff - all the more because people still get taken in! :rolleyes: :) :rolleyes: :)

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:) Happiness is a warm L1011 :)

Freenum
23rd Sep 2000, 07:18
Ho ho ho, look who's talking about people being taken in by scams!!!
How's the cash flow at Trans Oceanic, no its Lionair, whoops Africargo, sorry Celtic these days?

The Guvnor
23rd Sep 2000, 18:48
Freenum/Freeboot - are you, by any chance, alleging that any of these companies are 'scams'?? If so, what proof would you care to present to back up those claims? :) :) :)

W*nker!

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:) Happiness is a warm L1011 :)

Freenum
24th Sep 2000, 00:42
My, aren´t we sensitive!
Just curious that you´re bringing up Nigerian scam artists, when you claim to have ties to Nigeria, and others claim you to be a scam artist.
And seeing as how you are asking people to participate financially in your new venture, I´m just wondering how your fundraising is going.

Freenum
24th Sep 2000, 09:29
Also check these links,
http://africargo.com/
http://celticairways.com/


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Freenum
24th Sep 2000, 09:35
Unlike you, The Guvnor etc etc, I don't use vulgarities.

The time has come for you to shut up - with a public apology first, please.

When you signed up to use PPRuNe, you agreed to:

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I'd say that your last posting at the very least, contained ¨abusive, vulgar, hateful¨ language.

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The Guvnor
24th Sep 2000, 18:58
I am puzzled, Freenum - I cannot see how you can possibly make the claims about my last post that you have. Perhaps this indicates an inability to comprehend basic English? :rolleyes:

On the other hand, you and your various other identities appear to have made it your life's work to attempt to denigrate the efforts of myself and my colleagues.

I really suggest that for the good of your health - and for clarification, unless you try and twist that concern into a threat, I mean that you are obviously someone with obvious emotional problems - you give up the internet and go off and retire to a darkened room, preferrably with padded walls, for the benefit of all here.

You have repeatedly been asked for substantiation of any of the allegations you have made - yet you are unable to do so, because they do not exist except in your fevered imagination.

You also have consistently declined to disclose your identity - despite the fact that mine is public knowledge. Could this be because it's you that has something to hide, rather than me? :) :rolleyes:

In the meantime, please return to your Airfix model of a C150 and leave these forums to the big boys that know the business; and moreover have positive contributions to make.

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:) Happiness is a warm L1011 :)

[This message has been edited by The Guvnor (edited 24 September 2000).]

Vauxhall Cross
25th Sep 2000, 01:20
The Guvnor, since you like Zapiro cartoons here's one for your Flight Ops Director and partner in the CL-44s, Mike Snow... I hear that the people in the DRC are really interested in having a word with him when he gets back up there! In fact, I hear that his friends in the various security services in SA are turning out to be rather 'fair weather' ones as the file against him builds...

http://www.mg.co.za/mg/zapiro/2000/mar/mar14.gif

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The truth is out there!

Freenum
25th Sep 2000, 02:59
Now let me see, what does ¨W*nker!¨ mean Mr Robertson?
Is it not abusive, vulgar, hateful language? Certainly not the language one would expect of an airline chief executive officer, rather the talk of a Nigerian scam artist, wouldn´t you say?

The Guvnor
25th Sep 2000, 18:08
You've obviously never met Bob Crandall, Frank Lorenzo, Herb Kelleher, Bob Ayling, Richard Branson, Mike Bishop etc ... all of whom have been know to turn the air blue at times.

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:) Happiness is a warm L1011 :)

Wiz
25th Sep 2000, 19:26
Unless you fellows are planning to go somewhere new with this would you mind just dropping it?

It's pretty annoying to have to read the same old stuff again and again and again...

http://www.pprune.org/ubb/NonCGI/tongue.gif http://www.pprune.org/ubb/NonCGI/tongue.gif http://www.pprune.org/ubb/NonCGI/tongue.gif

Freenum
26th Sep 2000, 00:39
Trying to compare yourself, try Walter Mitty, Baron von Munchausen, or Enid Blighton?

cj
26th Sep 2000, 14:29
http://smilecwm.tripod.com/scorchio/saeek.gif
Talk about net stalking, well that what the Gov seems to be suffering from this creep - freenum http://smilecwm.tripod.com/scorchio/saevilw.gif

Noticed the posting about Celtic has disappeared, and not a minute too soon.

You have been asked on more than one occassion to substantiate your claims regarding alleged conduct of the Govnor, and do you do so - no just add more and more and more accusations without foundation. http://smilecwm.tripod.com/net6/nono.gif

What an asset you must be to employ http://smilecwm.tripod.com/net6/thefinger_red.gif

Sid Viscous
27th Sep 2000, 06:23
Yeah cj!! This freenum guy is obviously a bigtime loser who was probably fired by TG from one of his companies and is trying to get back at him.

Incidentally, TG, nice websites you have - and thanks for the links to the Nigerian scams. We get at least 5 of these things in every week!

upperecam
27th Sep 2000, 21:00
The Celtic thread disappeared as soon as "Contractair" BHX circa 1989/1990 was mentioned.Neil Robertson operated a very strange set up there and those people denigrating this man have very, very good cause.

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Bombs away
27th Sep 2000, 23:04
Wasn't the Company "Contract Air" out of Birmingham UK.

I,ve got one of there t-shirts and a mug somewhere.

Sid Viscous
28th Sep 2000, 01:49
Yeah, I got a job with Atlanta Icelandic through them flying 737s and later L10s. No complaints on my side as otherwise I wouldnt be where I am today.

Bombs away
28th Sep 2000, 03:27
Sid

Been busy on your first days registration, 7 posts already. Mainly backing up TG, bet Neil can't believe his luck.

Sid Viscous
28th Sep 2000, 14:43
Three topics, one of which was effectively in response to your posting! I don't especially know the guy, but I do believe in fair play and he seems to be getting the short end of the stick at the moment.

Who?
29th Sep 2000, 05:56
It´s getting quite easy to spot the alteregos here. (nudge, nudge, wink, wink) Notice how the Celtic thread got pulled when one of The Guv´s ex-partners started exposing the Guv´s lies.

Sid Viscous
29th Sep 2000, 13:30
Hello Freeboot ... not got yourself a life yet? I didn't see any of the Guv's ex-partners in that thread, unlike here, eh Freeboot?

Who?
2nd Oct 2000, 02:58
Oh please Neil, sorry I mean Sid, at least try a bit better with your aliases when you're giving yourself, sorry I mean The Guvnor, kudos.

TheShadow
2nd Oct 2000, 09:15
Give the Guv a break. He's an entrepreneur and he's putting together something that's quite a challenge. I know quite a few people who know him and know of him so I've actually heard a lot of substantive detail about his achievements. There is no detail (nor fact) emerging from any of the generalised and unsubstantiated allegations made vaguely against him. To me that's a fairly good indication that, like many movers and shakers, he's made a few enemies along the way. We can't all have the equable affability or charisma of a Richard Branson so jealousy, envy and animosity are a natural spin-off - for anybody who's high profile..

I hope the Guv makes a go of what he's attempting even though a short-term downturn in the industry and the greed of OPEC nations may eventually erode its viability.

He'd be encouraged somewhat by some positivity and offers of moral and tangible support on all the forums that he visits - and makes very credible contributions to.

And no, I'm not a Neil alter ego. He knows of me but doesn't know me, at least not in this guise.
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Oaks/8553/dhshadow.jpg


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Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?

Sid Viscous
2nd Oct 2000, 10:57
Freeboot, this is proof you're NUTS, man!!