strim
18th Jul 2007, 13:44
I would like to hear opinions from Adelaide/Parafield training operators on the following NOTAM. It has been a requirement for a few weeks now, how is everyone finding it?
TRAINING OPS RQMNTS
PILOTS OF AWK TRAINING OPS WI THE ADELAIDE CTR, AND VFR AWK
TRAINING TFC BLW A060 WI THE LATERAL LIMITS OF THE ADELAIDE CTR
MUST BOOK WITH THE ADELAIDE SUPERVISOR ON 08 8238 7992. BOOKINGS MUST BE MADE BTN 9AM AND 4PM LOCAL. 24 HR NOTICE SHOULD BE GIVEN.
Is this the norm around other Terminal areas?
I can understand the need for a booking system to accommodate the growing number of IFR training flights out of PF, but can someone (ATC perhaps) explain why it is necessary for VFR flights to book slots 24 hours in advance to fly overhead AD or even ACTY??
CASA have requirements that we expose trainees to CTA, however it seems to be increasingly difficult to get VFR clearances out of PF.
It is a great setback for a fresh PPL student who has planned AD - Strath or AD - TBD to suddenly get refused a clearance at the hold point and sent OCTA when one of the main aims of the lesson was the CTA departure.
It is especially frustrating because the booking system has no flexibility. For example, a training flight is scheduled to depart at 0900: PF - AD - TBD (navaid and CTA exposure). BKN cloud on Mt. Lofty, due to clear at 1100. Our booking was made at 0900 the previous morning in accordance with NOTAM, but due to cloud, the flight can no longer go ahead because our slot is gone. A waste of student/instructor time and of course lost revenue.
What has changed at AD TCU lately? And why can't controllers process a C172/PA28/TB10/etc with a properly filed flight plan with less than 24 hours notice???
TRAINING OPS RQMNTS
PILOTS OF AWK TRAINING OPS WI THE ADELAIDE CTR, AND VFR AWK
TRAINING TFC BLW A060 WI THE LATERAL LIMITS OF THE ADELAIDE CTR
MUST BOOK WITH THE ADELAIDE SUPERVISOR ON 08 8238 7992. BOOKINGS MUST BE MADE BTN 9AM AND 4PM LOCAL. 24 HR NOTICE SHOULD BE GIVEN.
Is this the norm around other Terminal areas?
I can understand the need for a booking system to accommodate the growing number of IFR training flights out of PF, but can someone (ATC perhaps) explain why it is necessary for VFR flights to book slots 24 hours in advance to fly overhead AD or even ACTY??
CASA have requirements that we expose trainees to CTA, however it seems to be increasingly difficult to get VFR clearances out of PF.
It is a great setback for a fresh PPL student who has planned AD - Strath or AD - TBD to suddenly get refused a clearance at the hold point and sent OCTA when one of the main aims of the lesson was the CTA departure.
It is especially frustrating because the booking system has no flexibility. For example, a training flight is scheduled to depart at 0900: PF - AD - TBD (navaid and CTA exposure). BKN cloud on Mt. Lofty, due to clear at 1100. Our booking was made at 0900 the previous morning in accordance with NOTAM, but due to cloud, the flight can no longer go ahead because our slot is gone. A waste of student/instructor time and of course lost revenue.
What has changed at AD TCU lately? And why can't controllers process a C172/PA28/TB10/etc with a properly filed flight plan with less than 24 hours notice???