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[eramusbdraggin]

Hi! did you know that as a quid pro co to Indian Operators for lobbying in extending the DGCA's tenure MCA has permitted foreign crew sets to fly together. Bye bye Indian CPL holders. welcome expat cojoes.

Indigo, the only indian carrier that has stubbornly refused to employ or train any indian entry level pilot has got it made. Poor indian suckers will after begging and borrowing upto USD $ 40,000/- will again be jobless.

Foreign pilot applications maybe sent and Indian pilots waiting and watching may send their resignations to VP HR.

[A320CAPT]

...not so much polite to our Indian colleagues...:hmm:
nevertheless, what I heard one of the crew member MUST be an AIRBUS TRI/TRE..
Who can confirm that it's NOT true??

[outofsynch]

Rumour has it that some orange jets and crew (line and Trainers), may be off to Indigo in the near future....

[HAWK21M]

As long as the Best skilled available are recruited,its fine.
regds
MEL

[haree]

This was bound to happen someday.. No surprises.. Only a matter of time before Air Deccan Kingfisher Jet etc to follow suit to up their standards

Haree

[CaptainProp]

Guys, I dont see the problem here. Like someone said earlier, as long as the best qualified pilot gets the job, who cares where he/she comes from? Its called open market and free competition... This is how things work in many (most?) parts of the world already. If India wants to grow and become a big -er player on the worlds market you guys better get used to the competition. Or maybe you expect to keep the cake and eat it?

Anyway, with the current pay levels in india it should not be too much of a probelm...maybe some expat competition will be a positive thing, pushing pay upwards? Lots of jobs in india over the next 10-15 years, be positive guys...

/CP

[5150]

Rumour has it that some orange jets and crew (line and Trainers), may be off to Indigo in the near future....

That rumour is now fact. . .

[The Flying Cokeman]

outofsync & 5150,


Orange crew have been offered to go there for a 6 months contract but only BUS Capt's & F/o's, NO trainers can go as they are still needed for training within EZY.

[Macky72]

Lots of Orange flight crew seem interested. Be interersting to see the deal offered. No doubt the more who seem interested to lower to T & C 's will be. After all they aren't doing it to "Enhance the lifestyle options" as the E:mail suggests, but to make the Orange machine some extra cash due to current over staffing.

[Kraut]

The same will happen as with MAD. Some guys jump on the bone, the company is positioning in front of their nose.
No exact clue about the contracts, but raise the hand to go for it! Management likes those guys! Finally they can keep T& C´s down for the "indian pilot experience"

[jeremydewever]

hello I am planing to go to easyjet after my training at CTC. do you think they will recruit much cadets like me ? I heard it is low cost working condition so is not good company, but good thing is I can have 4 stripes in 2 years :D

[gareth08]

You heard wrong.............

[Payscale]

Are you aware how many millions expat indians there are around the world, taking up jobs from the local populations, so please dont complaint when a few expats get jobs in your country.....anyway I hear there will be jobs for all with the rate of expansion of the indian aviation sector

[fiftypercentn1]

ehhe ure a cadet and u want 4 stripes in 2 years..!!??i would keep a bit of a lower profile if i were u. cheers
by the way conditions are better than many non low cost companies

as for the other things said here i really dont get what the problem is..they simply asked whos interested, they probably dont know the conditions yet themselves. its just a possibility on a volunteer basis,if u dont like it u dont go and stay where u are!none is forcing you.
it seems to me that sometimes we complain just for the sake of it.

[5150]

but good thing is I can have 4 stripes in 2 years

You're right - two on each side

:rolleyes:

[santos dumont]

Guys, I dont see the problem here. Like someone said earlier, as long as the best qualified pilot gets the job, who cares where he/she comes from? Its called open market and free competition... This is how things work in many (most?) parts of the world already


Where do you come from, Mars ? Do you know what you are talking about ? I have three thousand hours of twin turboprop. Does it mean I can get hired over a local pilot fresh out of flying school for the same job ? Where is this magic land ?

SD

[Kraut]

@ JEREMYDEWEVER
.........but good thing is I can have 4 stripes in 2 years........
Are you sure you will be doing fine in the flying business?
Maybe better try management career?

[jeremydewever]

Kraut,

Sorry but I am ambitius, and anyway, a friend said me easyjet make you captain in 2 years.
You are not at easyjet so please, do not speak of something you dont know.

Regards.

:rolleyes:

[Right Way Up]

Jeremydewer,
I think you'll find Kraut is at Easy. If you're a cadet it will be impossible for you to become Capt in 2 years as you'll have less than 2000 hrs.

[ZBMAN]

Jeremydewer,

Kraut works for easyJet, and has been on these forums for quite a while now, so perhaps the least you could do is check your facts before posting.

I too work for easyJet. I have joined the company with 1500hrs and a full ATPL, and I can assure you I am at the very least 2 to 3 years to a command, ie, nowhere near for the moment! Perhaps you should think long and hard about what it is to be a captain. For heaven's sake you'll still be getting used to your job after just 2 years! I know I was and even now I learn new things every day I go flying, greatly thanks to the experience level of the guy sitting to my left :ok:.

My advice: concentrate on becoming a good First Officer and then you'll be ready to be a good Captain.

now back to the topic

[The Flying Cokeman]

BUS319,
If you're interested you probably have to be fast I've heard from the management it's only 10 crews that are needed for Indigo. Somehow I doubt that the T&C will be better than those in EZY.

jeremydewever :=,
Do the math pls.
IF you get into EZY you will join with less than 200 hours. You can maximum fly 900 hrs per year and you need minimum 3000 easyJet factored hours before you can apply for command. From you apply for command to the day where you get your "4 stripes" takes nearly another year. So in reality it will take you MINIMUM 4 years and that's if you're good.
Then another downfall in the industry could be waiting around the corner in the near future, you never know- and you could be looking at maybe 8 or 10 years before a command, if you get to keep your job !

[F4F]

Yeah, I'd take it as well for a shorter period, say 1-2 months... but not the whole 6.
And Kraut, it is not really as bad as you see it. I guess most of the gals and guys interested will first check conditions and then finally make a funded decision. I would expect the T&Cs to be the same as actual base + expenses + eventual foreign allowance.

A few years ago, flying for another company I was given the opportunity to go flying for Bangladesh and I spent a very rewarding and warm winter month. Did a lot to enhance my view of the World, I ate very good food, drank fine beer and met fantastic people.

jeremydewever, your attitude reminds me of that of this French Oiseau Blanc of some sort that was haunting the forum a while ago... PPRUne stands for Professional Pilots


live 2 fly 2 live

[Luke SkyToddler]

Is it true that D.O. (ex easyjet) is now management with Indigo?

[dragon501]

Jeremy, stick to playing computer games instead of opening your mouth. Probably better for your career...

[Wizofoz]

Jeremydewer,
J
ust let me say I agree with others here, you're attitude stinks!!

[BitMoreRightRudder]

Is it true that D.O. (ex easyjet) is now management with Indigo?

I've heard the same thing Luke. Would be interested in having this confirmed. Might put a few people off the idea shall we say. :hmm:

[autobrake3]

Most definitely true and a very strange link up considering the circumstances of his departure. Still when money is involved.......

[sabenaboy]

Jeremydewever,

You don't need to be ambitious to be an airline captain. You DO need some maturity, wisdom, experience, intelligence, humility and good leadership capabilities amongst other characteristics.

If I look at your blog ( first hit when I googled for "jeremy dewever" ) and your remarks in this forum, I doubt very much that you're the kind of guy that I would like to see as a captain.

What intelligence is concerned: how intelligent can you be if you use your real name to make stupid remarks like the ones you made? I'm sure someone at EZY will remember your name if you ever get to the point where you can apply to them!

I apologise for this off-topic reply.

Regards,
Sabenaboy

[Marvo]

Has anybody else noticed the name of the cleaning company that looks after the jettys at LGW ?

"If there is rubbish on the jetty please call indigo cleaning services on XXX"

Are we really off to India to fly , or will we be staying at Gatwick.....?

Back to the thread, anybody know the easyJet Tand C's for the contract..?

[teghjeet]

35 hr/Wk, 125 per month, 1000 Per Year,

companies trying to inc to 1100. DGCA not greeing to it.

been on DGCA website for over a year.

dgca.nic.in/Misc/draft%20cars/d5f-f4(draft).pdf


try this link.

This is supposed to be better for evry one except airlines.

[nada1234]

OK so heres the low down on Indigo. I am part of it. D.O. is very much there and has already started showing a lot of colours. Could anyone here update on his previous "QUALIFICATIONS" since he seems to be a person who remains in news like Warwick Brady who came to Air Deccan and brought it to almost shut down. The news is that, Air deccan was left with just three days of operating expenses before Viyay Mallya of Kingfisher bailed them out and the first action was to ask Warwick to quit gracefully, which, he did not deserve. Please update on D.O. too...
Indigo is low cost airline which is vehemently trying not to recruit indian pilots. Infact, nearly 50% cockpit crew is expat. I have nothing against expats who are campaigners of free market. How about opening EU/UK/North America markets for "deserving" expat pilots too? Let there be openeness in YOUR country too rather than expecting it only from India. There are enough and more qualified pilots here who have been on 320 for years now.
You will not have a stable roster here. Infact, you will get your flight a day prior or even the same day. There are a lot of layovers, which, in expat context is good for people who are staying without families - you get to see more places here. anyway you are all on a paid holiday here. so enjoy!!!
The payments and other HR issues are very well looked after. Though same cannot be said about operations and training, specially after arrival of D.O., devide and rule policy has started there.
All the best. if you have any specific queries, post them here for answers.:ok:

[toratoratora]

:=Dear Jeremy Whatever-
Sure hope I don't get to fly with you at Orange.You sound insufferably above yourself!

[electricdeathjet]

Interesting thread, I dont know how this got to be a discussion about destroying someones career before the poor chap has even got off the ground... give him a break! He was obviously wrongly informed.

Back to the topic..... I hear that orange crews might be going out as soon as mid August, does anyone have a clue about what packages they might on? Do they get easyjet+indigo pay? Hotels by the sea? Personal transport? ...........

easy-Go Indi-Jet Not sure what sounds better?

[The Flying Cokeman]

electricdeathjet,

From what I've heard you will only be paid by Indigo while on contract but you get to keep the EZY senority when you get back spring 2008. Don't know about the T&C's which haven't seen the light yet.
Only 10 crews are needed so it's not a lot. Hope that helps?

[CamelhAir]

I propose Jeremy Dewever for this years "stupidest post of the year award."
Not only has diplayed monstrous ignorance of how career progression in aviation, he has done so while revealing his own identity. He then returned to the fray to spout even more BS. How much of a hole can one dig....
At first I thought, this as to be a made up name, but then, as revealed by Sabenaboy, we discover, no, it's for real. :eek: Check out his blog, he really does exist. The mind truly boggles.
Let us only hope that he is not representative of the standard of pilots entering the industry.

[dartagnan]

any email address for sending CV to Indigo?

[electricdeathjet]

From what I've heard in galley FM, is that ej will be wet leasing their a/c during the winter period to better utilize the fleet in that period.

[gareth08]

Lots of CTC guys coming into Easy are working hard to keep the pretty good rep that CTC has here.

Please don't ruin it all by opening your mouth Jeremy - cheers :ouch:

[PPRuNe Towers]

Jeremy is no longer with us as he is not Jeremy.

Vide the big red warning at the bottom of the page.

Regards
Rob

[sabenaboy]

Jeremy is no longer with us as he is not Jeremy.

Ok, It's impossible to tell who is who on a public forum.

Anyway this guy start his blog with the title:
"HIGHWAY TO THE SKY, follow here the stages leading me straight to a cockpit" and puts a picture of his pilotshirt and stripes on his blog (He already has a PPL :} )

No further comment.

[fiftypercentn1]

sabenaboy are u in ezy?

[arc-en-ciel]

Hi Ifly,
Can you please tell us where the pilots of Indigo are based ?
Many thanks

[teghjeet]

then why r u still there?

[indigone]

I wouldn't pay for a "type" with the prospects of going to Indigo, your hours wont come quickly, dont count on building hours there in 3 to 4 months, its a misconception, you wont know what your doing for days on end, sat in a so called "buisness class apartment", surrounded by poverty you did not think existed, and Indigo will change at last minute your flights, you would be much better paying for a job with Ryan Air, and build your hours there and then move on! Just my opinion for what its worth, not sure what other deals exist, but give it some carefull consideration, before committing to there.

[starburstOne]

I know 4 a fact there are more Indian co-pilots offered jobs with Indigo and about to embark on the type rating and sim check soon. In any case, a number of airlines have similarly voiced concern that the aircrew shortage is affecting their operations and flying with an Indian pilot on the jump seat is costly and not feasible in the long-termThe DGCA have hitherto given permission for non-Indian pilots to fly together.

I doubt if this will be for long though!

[flyingmate]

I heard that D O has just left the building.:D

[Decolar]

>>TRI/TRE<<

Just not sure of the equivalent designations. Training Route Instructor, and Training Route Evaluator?

Thanks

[Panther06]

Type Rating Instructor/Type Rating Examiner

[marshall737]

Is it possible for anyone flying with Indigo, how your sickpay is organised?
So how many sickdays are "paid/insured" and from which point are you supposed to pay yourself( read: deducted from your salary ?

Another question for people in general in India : Is it recommended to be "vaccinated" ? (Hep A/yellow fever/typhoid etc) ?

Thanks in advance.:O

[Max Autobrake]

Has the spaceman resigned?

[320capt.]

Please go to Kingfisher. I would love to here from you about your "Royale treatment" when you are there.

[A320CAPT]

320capt - I agree with you.
Ifly - think twice before doing so! And don't be surprised when you face something different, ok?:ouch:

[A320CAPT]

...aslo seriously consider the following link:
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=275946
Cheers!

[A320CAPT]

namesake! are u with kfa at the moment?:)

[320capt.]

Check your IM

[Bird 320]

welll let me tell you that you guys don't know much about india then. Three years and all you suckers will be thrown out of india. Welcome to the world of indians.....

[A320CAPT]

hopefully much earlier!:}

[HAWK21M]

I guess 3-4 yrs & the Local population would be upgraded by then.But with Massive expansions on the cards in Aviation.The hit wont be as severe as you think.
regds
MEL