Todays GNAV exam

[Superpilot]

What did you think?

Thought that plog question - Q46 was a bit unfair. Took me nearly 15 minutes!

[Finals19]

The three pointer on true bearing from the station of an NDB referenced to the aircraft RMI, where you had to find the constant of the cone (n) between the standard parallels. Nasty IMHO, not helped by the fact that they stuck it in near the end (in the 40's?) Got it wrong at 258 deg true! God damn it....grrrrrrrrrrr!:mad:

Oh and Q3 - the earth's minor and major axis??!?! Come again guvnor? :eek:

[danielshowman]

todays gnav exam - was it me having a dumb moment or question 29. Find the drift angle ... I've done lots of these for practice but for some reason got stumped in the exam. it stated GS not TAS. Before I go and investigate anyone have any comments

[quant]

I would suggest you guys forget about it! What's done is done and you can't change it so relax & concentrate on the exams you have left. I'm sure you all will be fine :cool:

[EGCC4284]

Guys and GIRLS

My thoughts are with you.

I did Gen Nav back in the winter of 2005, 3rd attempt too.

Chin up and dont give up. Hope you passed it.

[maxdrypower]

I was one of he many unfortantes who did GNAV twice 74% that hurts , but both exams i did both had time cinsuming plog questions in them , my strategy was do all 3 pointers first then 2 pointers the the 1's just in case i an out of time , then the biggies at least are done , works for m and b too

[Andy_20]

How realistic is the bristol QB in relation to the exam you think?

[RTN11]

Oh and Q3 - the earth's minor and major axis??!?! Come again guvnor?

Did you study for the exam at all? that was page 1 of my Gen Nav textbook.

[ali1986]

Has anyone got any helpful advice for someone due to do the Gen Nav exam in April? e.g exam stategy etc...

How many Wizzy wheel questions were there?

Good luck to everyone who took the nav exam this time around i'm sure you ll be alright ;)

[maxdrypower]

Yeh as I said above do the 3 mqarks questions first then the 2 markers , then if you do run out of time you havent got 3 mark questions outstanding , made sense to me at the time. DONT RELY ON BRISTOL the questions are similar but numerical values change. That said if you can work out the answers on the questions that will stand you in good stead for the exam but dont learn answers to numerical questions .
On my first gnav paper there were 9 crp/5 questions and 6 chart related questions , the following month on the retake there were two of each so there really is no way of saying . On first paper there were no PSR/PET questions on the second there were 4 ,these are a give away and worth 3 and two marks so get them get of the way if they appear .
Just keep your eye on the time as that is your biggest enemy on gnav many many people end the eam with outstanding questions .
Good Luck

[Andy_20]

Oh, so PET/PSR questions are worth 3 marks? that was confusing me, especially with the QB only giving 1 mark answers but i was hearing about these 3 marks questions and wondering what the hell they were going to be like.

cheers :ok:

[maxdrypower]

Yeh they can be . If they give you the gs then they might be worth one mark each if they ask you to calculate the gs they will be worth two but sometimes they give you mach numbers and wind so you have more work to do meaning more marks , the general rule is the more work you have to do the more marks avail. The above mentioned plog question is a 3 marker and is a drain on time . Other two markers are scale questions and most crp/5 as i recall are two markers but stnd to be corrected . The BGS QB does not reflect the marks avail on the exam you will have to wait till the day and read the marks carefully.
In short if there is maths , chart , or crp/5 work in the question they will generally be worth more There might actually only be two CRP/5 questions ie hdg and gs types but there may be more integrated elewhere in the paper ie the pet/psr questions where you have to work out winds and convert mach numbers etc etc .
Know you crp/5 you dont wanna be dropping two marks cos youve forgotten how to work out basic wind calculations
Good Luck

[Foghorn Leghorn]

Gents,

What is a 'plog' question?

[maxdrypower]

they give you a partially completed plog and u are required to complete it , takes time usually 3 marks

[Foghorn Leghorn]

Apologies, I probably didn't make my question absolutely clear. What does plog stand for?

Thanks for the replies.

[maxdrypower]

I would summise that if you arent sure what a plog is then you are a long way off worrying about gnav :}
A plog , not exactly sure what it stands for exactly probably planning log its the log of your flight from planned headings tracks and times to eta's including clearances and observations ie Wx etc etc its a legal requirment on commercial flights .

[EK4457]

Pilot's Log

[Foghorn Leghorn]

Many thanks EK.

I'm a few weeks away from taking my GNAV exam. However, nomenclature for a pilot's log doesn't bother me maxdrypower, as I will know exactly what it is when I get to it on the exam paper.

Another quick question about the GNAV paper if I may. How many questions are there likely to be on the exam paper?

[M.D.Heli]

Hi Foghorn Leghorn,

I believe if you are doing the ATPL (A) you are looking at about 54 questions & if you are doing CPL (A) about 45 for Gen Nav.

No one can give an exact figure as the questions are taken from the question bank randomly and as previously mentioned could be worth 1, 2 or 3%. So the number varies to make up 100%.

Good luck with your exams.

[JaMiE7Walker]

I found the plog question pretty straight forward, but only because i have practiced that on Bristol so many times.
They were asking for Line one which was something like hdg 236 and 11.14UTC. If you check the Bristol database, its definately on there with the other 6 lines aswell.

I found the exam not too tough but certainly not straight forward. Already i know ive made at least 8marks worth of sloppy mistakes.
The paper was 54 questions with total marks worth 79. That obviously allows you to lose 20 marks & pass with 75%.
I have no question in my mind that i am around the 75% mark, whether i have just scraped it or just missed out.

I took the POF examination on Monday morning, i certainly know i made two mistakes, but all in all i found that a very basic exam & predict my results will sit in the low 90's. The IFR & VFR paper was ridiculously simple. I can almost guarantee i obtained 100% in both of those.

But im here worrying about G Nav & Met, so lets see :ugh:

Best of luck
x

[727Man]

I to did Gen Nav in 2005, failed it the first time, passed the second time around
with 20 min to spare at the end! What I found worked for me is I did the exam in order, if I was on a question for to long I would skip it and come back to it.
I used Bristol GS Question Bank and Forum. If you don't understand a question,
write it down step by step how to get the answer, don't memorize the QB answers! Keep practicing Bristol GS QB.

[maxdrypower]

I did Gnav twice and both times there were plog questions , neither of which was the same as the QB values , be careful .
F.L Whoever is doing oyur GS will be able to provide you with all the details of exactly how many questions there or thereabouts you will get on each exam , it was 54 on both my papers. It is also on the CAA website.This does you give you a lot more scope than you will get when you take M and B with only 23 questions

[Foghorn Leghorn]

Thanks maxdrypower,

M and B sounds like its going to be fun with only a few questions! No room for errors!

[RTN11]

Yes, Mass and Balance can catch a lot of people out.

Only 22 questions, and likely to get a few 2 or 3 mark questions leaves very little room for error if you get the big ones wrong.

Knowing where to start on a question saves a lot of time, so go through lots of practice questions.