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Chally604
26th Jun 2007, 14:55
Hello,

if you do a T/R on a 737 can you fly a BBJ without seeing the simulator again? Or the other way around? Is it the same entry?

Same question for the Airbus and the ACJ?
Anybody here with experience on that questions?

Thanks and best regards..

mutt
26th Jun 2007, 16:59
B737 rating allows you to fly the BBJ.

I presume its the same for the A320/ACJ.

Mutt

Chally604
26th Jun 2007, 21:10
Thanks mutt for the info.
But is it also the other way around? Do you do a full valid 737 training for a BBJ? I think there might be some differences. So if you go for a BBJ training, what will be entered in your licence?

flyboyike
26th Jun 2007, 21:19
^^^^

In the US they're all on the same 737 type rating, everything from the 731 to the 739 and the BBJ.

BelArgUSA
30th Jun 2007, 12:00
Same thing - Spells B-737 on your certificate...
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But the 737 and BBJ training is completely different. All depends where you do that training. For the 737 rating, you knock on the door of an airline training center, and for some US$ 6,000, you will spend up to 3 weeks in a classroom and simulator learning about the aircraft. You will probably stay at the nearest Motel 6...
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For the BBJ rating, you go to these upper class private jet training academies and pay some US$ 18,000 (triple price) to learn (in up to 4 weeks there) that you BBJ has options that FMS of regular 737 normally dont have, that you have an extra tank in the belly with 2 boost pumps (?) for extra range, and that the minimum number of bottles of champagne in the galley is listed in the MEL/DDPG. And yes, you will attend classroom and simulator training carrying a Gucci flight case. Your hotel will be a Sheraton, not a motel.
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You laugh...? - I understand that some of these BBJ operators reject any applicants who are product of regular airline training - Keep these low-life airline guys out of classy executive jets, please. You must be blue-blooded to have access to a Signature FBO to board Miss Paris Hilton and her party in your BBJ... Carrying her bags is more important than checking the ATIS.
xxx
:)
Happy contrails

Chally604
30th Jun 2007, 15:33
Thanks BelArg for the info. :D

Since Miss Hilton is out of prison it is much more likely to have her and her Party on board again. And, yes you are right! Sometimes you have to decide what is more important in a specific situation. :}

Do you have any idea what an airline rating is about? 25.000 Dollars? Is it a good number?

THX

BelArgUSA
30th Jun 2007, 20:02
Chally604 -
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US$ 25,000 ??? - No Sir.
Most schools charge $6,000 to 8,000 for a 737 type rating in the USA...
All ground school and simulator training included.
No flight in aircraft required if you meet the requirements.
I know it can be done in Denver (UAL), Atlanta (DAL).
In Miami, 2 locations...
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One is the PanAm Flight Academy (PAFA) in Miami.
Call Matt Tierney at PAFA (800) 874 6064.
Takes about 20 days - Priced at US$6,000-7,000...
xxx
:)
Happy contrails