Where to buy some left seat B737 time?

[Heading Select]

Where to buy some left seat B737 time?

Type rated and current with several thousand F/O hours on type.

[superced]

Whats this bull****

buy some hours in left seat on B37????

[willfly380]

i have some i can sell . it will cost you .big money

[Heading Select]

Its not bull****. I have a few thousand hours on type in the right seat, but need to buy 100 hours left seat time to get a job contract 737 captain.

So no more stupid comments please - only relative information welcome.

[roxar]

huh?
that means u want to rent a 737 for hour building?..
hehe..
u should invite us all to be ur passenger..
hehe..
or u want to buy the capt seat?..
:}
:ugh:

[cargo boy]

Flying an a/c from the left hand seat does not equal command hours. If someone is offering you a command job and you have no experience then you are bull****ting your way.

If you have any experience working for a proper airline, your PF sectors can count for "in command, under supervision". However, just because you transfer to the left hand seat, does not put you "in comand". Under supervision, possibly and any sectors where you are PNF will be P2 hours.

Just because you have 100 hours in the left hand seat should not be considered as anything but 'left hand seat experience'. Would you like to let us know who the contractor is and who the flying is for? :hmm:

[DeltaSix]

Heading Select,

What series of the 737 did you want to fly on ?

Anyway, here is a mix or Classics and NG series.
Try Air Asia in Malaysia, Jet Airways or Spice Jet in India, Lion Air or Adam Air in Indonesia (not sure though if they still allow expats to work there but way I look at it, it's a training flight), Philippine Airlines is still operating the B737-300 series for domestic ops.



Good luck mate

D6

[Heading Select]

Thanks D6 - either EFIS or NG - a couple of those might be a possibility.

cargo boy - whats your problem? do you know what you're talking about?

I am P1 rated with 3000+ hours P2 on type. Every pilot at one time has their first 100 hours as P1 on a type, no? I am quite happy (and willing to pay) to have a company captain in right seat, but I will fly/log P1 on type.

HS

[willfly380]

have you flown as captain on 50ton jets before?if yes then ok otherwise 100 hrs and a job in an indian/asian outfit is a way to kill your self.no funny comments sir just an advice from a TRE .

[Heading Select]

Tell me 380, how do all those indian/asian outfit F/Os manage to upgrade?

And what is the significance of 50ton?

Contract airline has checked me out and above the required standard.

Its not exactly rocket science, is it?

Nothing personal, but I have flown with several TREs I would not trust to drive my car round the block. And thats an understatement. :E

[on_the_right]

heading select,

india not an OPTION for you. they are NOT going to hire you with less than 500 hours on the LHS on type. they may want you as an FO, but without any chance of an upgrade.

cheers

[willfly380]

i dont know how your guys make TRE s , but we make them drive around the block a few times.command on airplane is not about efficiency of handling an airplane alone besides it can get very overwhelming to fly in command with little experience in an new environment as these days the right seat is filled in with very inexperienced crew.
end of discussion for me , just going to practise my driving around the block . cheers

[flylittlebirdie]

i suspect this may be a joke. why not get a job and wait for an upgrade like every other sucker.

[Heading Select]

on_the_right,

You have NO idea what you are talking about, they WANT me + 100 hr.

380,

I have several thousand hours P1 - but not on type.

birdie,

IF you knew about contracts, you dont get an upgrade.

[on_the_right]

sure, happy flying in india then. you seem to have done your research/homework !

[Eight Ball]

Heading Select, at one stage Eagle Jet Int'l was placing people as FO on heavies. Maybe try and contact them and see if they can help. Since you are about to become Capt maybe it will be a little bit easier to get you in as a training Captain. Either that or try this person [email protected], she is a recruiter for an Indian airline. Not sure if she can help but it's worth a try.

Guys, let's give HS a break shall we. Looking for work in aviation is hard as it is without these comments that doesn't help him.


Goodluck HS.

8 Ball

[CAPTAIN WOOBLAH]

Give this guy a break!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Have you all gone mad!!!!!!!! It is precisely this type of scab that gets all pilots terms and conditions reduced. :mad:

1) Buy your own uniform.
2) Pay for your own rating.
3) Buy your own meals.
4) Pay for your own HOTAC

The bloody list goes on and on. And then this scab will be the very person that will complain when he finds that he is not getting a good deal after he has settled into the LHS and has found out what is happening in the real world. It is this guy and his type that is reducing airline pilots T&C's worldwide. Shame shame shame on you. :=

What is happening here is a guy that is trying to jump the Que not a poor bugger looking for a job down on his luck. Just a bludger looking for the easiest way out at the expense of his colleges. :*
Wooblah.

[Heading Select]

Oh boy, another smart one that resigned in 89...

Thats a VERY naughty trying to label me a "scab" - I am NOT taking anyones job, NOR jumping any quewe. I am simply qualifying (CAA requirement) myself for a contract job ALREADY offered...on the SAME T&Cs as everyone else.

It is also my observation that MANY guys that SAY one thing for others, but DO another for themselves. Just look at all the blue shirts that flock to Easyjet, Jetstar, and other LCCs...YES, jumping the qwewe.

No more crying please from these losers of the past. :{

All relevant information welcomed. :ok:

[Centaurus]

It is precisely this type of scab that gets all pilots terms and conditions reduced.

Pull your bloody head in son, and get off this forum. Mr Moderator - can you stop this nonsense in its tracks before it generates further bile?

[willfly380]

if you want you can head to india and talk to spice jet etc, fly with them for a rew months in the right seat and they will convert you as capt ... but for a period of time you will be under a bond. not many experienced first officers with altp these days in that part of the world.all the best .

[CAPTAIN WOOBLAH]

Pull your bloody head in son, and get off this forum. Mr Moderator - can you stop this nonsense in its tracks before it generates further bile?

There is no way it could generate anymore bile than I see here!!!!
It is this bile that is reducing terms and conditions and I will never pull my head in when it comes to wimps that can't tow the line.
Heading select claims to have thousands of hours in command but needs to PAY FOR LHS TIME IN A 73 Bull$hit. The way he is going about it the employer needs to check his parker pen.

With regards to the 89ers bloody hats off to them at least they stuck together which is more than I can say for you kiss a$$ buy your own rating, pay for your own uniforms, buy your own hotel and pay for your own meals. I would have been proud to have been one of them. Their unity and esprit de corps was unrivalled and it was only their screwed up legal team that let them down.

Yes I will put in my bloody 2 cents worth when it comes to people that degrade what is a right of pilots to be trained in their respective companies from right to left seats.

The airlines are run by boffin headed accountants and lawyers and they will always look at the bottom line and it is precisely this attitude that screws up the overall balance of the system. Just because it is a bull run on pilots certain individuals think they can bypass the system but when the bear returns as he will where will those that jumped ahead be. People know and talk.

I can't imagine heading select attending a British airways interview saying. " Hi I am H/s I have thousands of hours in command in X aircraft but you are hiring for X type but never mind, I am willing to pay you $3000 a month for a year until you think I am qualified. BALLS. Essentially this is what he is saying.

I WANT TO PAY YOU TO WORK FOR 100 HOURS.............

Personally I have never paid for a rating since I got my CPL which was probably before you fools were born. I am very happy flying with real people in the biggest jet in the world. I feel sad for the younger generation of pilots that never got to fly jets when people dressed up to fly and the pilots that flew them got top dollar and were respected as white collar individuals.
If this is what flying is about i am glad I am on the way out with my big fat pension. I guess that perhaps it has become a job for bus drivers and computer operators and that the pay will be commensurate.

Lastly If H/s has all those hours in the 73 as an FO why is his present employer not up grading him to Captain. I would wager it has something to do with him!!!!

Wooblah.

[Eight Ball]

And that's the reason why I am suggesting to HS to go in as a training Capt so he won't have to pay. With his hours, I'm sure an airline would give him the training he needs down the track..... but sometimes, a company will still require their Captains to pay a bond. Either that or you pay for your own endorsement or LHS time.

I've even heard of a chinese airline asking their Capts to post a $30,000 bond and take your passport so you won't leave before your contract is fulfilled and/or have paid the training cost if you leave before the contract is up.

It can get very tricky Capt Wooblah. You and I are probably lucky that we live in a country that we don't experience these requirements but, outside it's a very different story for LCCs.

Having said that, I'm sure HS would rather not pay if he was given the opportunity to be hired as a training Captain. But if he is stuck, then can we really blame him.

[Molokai]

heard from an asian source that fast track placement with jetair is posible through some ex-jet pilot management consultant. also try royal air cambodia.

[rduarte]

For HS,
You need to go to Brazil for one week, there, you will get 3000H PIC on type ( or any type you want), and it will cost you peanuts.:hmm:

[Soft Altitude]

Hdg Select,
I know of an outfit that will be offering what you are looking for, but only by the end of this year. Timing being everything in aviation, obviously, I do not think that you can enjoy the luxury of waiting for so long ? Can you ?
I am also looking for the same thing !
Some people just can not understand where recruitment is heading nowadays,
and how much aviation has been degraded in the last decade.
LCCs especially seem to be happier to take in a " 0-command hour pilot " for the left seat than taking in some highly experienced F/Os and getting them a reasonably quick upgrade, because the former costs them less, which leaves experienced F/Os in a sort of no man's land: not suitable for junior F/O position but also not suitable for a left seat because no command time, hence out of job while low houred guys are getting in ! Great !:*
Then senior captains dare to comment how the right hand seat is occupied by inexperienced pilots.
Best of luck to you Hdg Sel, we'll keep in touch.:ok: