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james707
13th Feb 2002, 05:12
lOOKS LIKE THINGS ARE GOING TO TAKE A TURN FOR THE WORSE UAL MECHANICS VOTED DOWN THE NEW CONTRACT.. .Gone and forgotten Eastern, Pan Am, UAL !

Donkey Duke
13th Feb 2002, 07:36
Did they vote down the proposal and vote to strike? Sheesh. It's probably not a good time to have a strike right now. OOOOOhhhh SNAP!

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Huck
13th Feb 2002, 07:39
Please tell me this is a wind-up....

Donkey Duke
13th Feb 2002, 07:43
I can't find it anywhere on the net. Please give me a web address. Shanks!

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Airbubba
13th Feb 2002, 07:45
Nothing so far here:

<a href="http://www.iam141m.org/ual.htm" target="_blank">http://www.iam141m.org/ual.htm</a>

Donkey Duke
13th Feb 2002, 08:02
Just wait one second. That rumor may not be true.. .The IAM website might have inadvertantly put something on the web site that wasn't necessarily. .true and retracted it. Here is what was on. .CBS. Marketwatch:. .Frank Larkin, a media spokesman for IAM, said: "What appeared on the site was one of two versions which had been prepared in anticipation of the final outcome. However, one of them was posted inadvertently."

. .Let's hope they don't do it.

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411A
13th Feb 2002, 08:17
Stupid is as stupid does....UAL will go into the tank if the guys walk out...might be time to end the drama.

Airbubba
13th Feb 2002, 09:45
Looks like it's official once more:

International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers. . District Lodge 141-M

United Airlines Contract Updates

. .Machinists at United Airlines. .Reject Contract Offer

Washington, D.C., February 13, 2002 - By a wide margin, United Airlines mechanic and related employees voted yesterday to reject a contract offer by the carrier that included terms imposed by a Presidential Emergency Board.

"Our negotiators opposed the emergency board’s involvement," said Scotty Ford, District 141-M president and lead negotiator for the mechanics group. "Their proposals fell short of what we felt we could achieve in direct negotiations. The results of today’s vote shows our members agree."

The 13,000 mechanic and related employees, represented by the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers (IAM) have been in direct and federally mediated negotiations with United Airlines since December, 1999.

With nearly 90 percent of eligible members voting, 68 percent voted to reject the proposal. In separate voting, 86 percent of the membership authorized a strike at United if an enhanced agreement cannot be hammered out.

Tom Buffenbarger, International President of the Machinists Union, urged an immediate resumption of negotiations with United Airlines. "We will travel anywhere, and meet around the clock if necessary for the next six days to reach an agreement," said Buffenbarger. "My advice to Congress and the President remains the same: stay out of this and we will get it done."

"If we achieve significant improvements – and I suspect we will – we will schedule a vote of the membership by mid-March," said Robert Roach, Jr., IAM General Vice President of Transportation.

In separate negotiations, IAM District 141, representing 30,000 Ramp & Stores, Public Contact, Food Services and Security Officers continues to meet in mediated talks with United Airlines. Both IAM districts have been in negotiations with United Airlines since December 1999. All IAM contracts with United became amendable on July 12, 2000.

. .<a href="http://www.iam141m.org/ual.htm" target="_blank">http://www.iam141m.org/ual.htm</a>

redtail
13th Feb 2002, 11:15
Time for some real negotiations to be accomplished, since both sides have one week remaining to hide behind the RLA. Normal union stuff in the US.

JMCPilit
13th Feb 2002, 12:04
First the USAirways screw up. Then AA pass them out to become #1. Then the airline loses $2billion in a year. Thats $2,000,000,000,000.00!!. .Now the IAM say they want more than 23% pay raises! . .Before everyone stampedes to jump all over me here, let me say that I think that this is not a good time to be looking for the scheckles!!!. .Its like going to dad for pocket money after the wife left, the house was repossesed, the daughter got up the spout, the job let him go and his dog ran away.. .The IAM should look at history and Eastern Airlines. UAL are falling from grace and the unions should really consider their battles. I am not saying that they do not deserve a pay raise, I am sure they do. I am saying that there is a better time to bleed the scrawny calf!!!!!. .The IAM will be the masters of their own destiny... <img src="confused.gif" border="0"> <img src="confused.gif" border="0"> <img src="confused.gif" border="0">

climbthrust
13th Feb 2002, 14:16
UK3

..I do belive $2 billion "only" is $2,000,000,000.00 and not $2,000,000,000,000.00

but it's still an awful lot of money.