Anyone currently at MPA?

[mgdaviso]

Am in need of some info... is there anyone out there in cyberspace currently at or going to MPA who could answer a few questions for me.... I am not a journo or anyone wanting to compromise your persec.

Please pm me

[JTIDS]

If it doesn't have any bearing on security ask the question on open forum, there are a lot of people at and recently returned from MPA who would be happy to respond...

[Talking Radalt]

Yes, Lott 22 is closed for good.

[Bruiser Loose]

Many a night I can't remember in there!

[BEagle]

About b£oody time it was!

Hopefully the absurd 'Goose' has also been closed?

How about the 'Queen Vic'?

[Air Defender]

Goose Absurd? :eek: Clearly a post designed to provoke emotion. Outrageous suggestion:rolleyes: Any way it's not a bar it's a lounge for 1435 aircrew and "selected" guests. Yes the selection process does usually involve how lumpy your jumper is.

[Number2]

Nothing new there then!!

[BEagle]

At least it kept the fag-charioteers out of the Mess!

Do they still do that childish carpet thing at Happy Hour? The Wokka mates ripped the cr@p out of that when they let off an MS26 in the pub and invited everyone in - except the fag-charioteers who stood and sulked on their tatty piece of mat....

[C130 Techie]

How about the 'Queen Vic'?

Also sadly now closed for good.

[Backwards PLT]

Jeez BEagle - they either seriously upset you at some point or you have the biggest chip on your shoulder ever!!

Got a good story about it?

[reallydeskbound]

Beag as a complete failure on any fast jet has the biggest chip on his shoulder when it comes to those who have succeeded!

You never know who's on this site!

[GasFitter]

del: 1435 aircrew
insert: 1435 officers
..... well it most certainly was in my time there!

[Lima Juliet]

Beags as a complete failure on any fast jet has the biggest chip on his shoulder when it comes to those who have succeeded!

I always thought that Beags had a bit of mud-moving F4 time before growing old, bitter and twisted on the Vicky? RDB do you have more info???

Now, now, Beags At least it kept the fag-charioteers out of the Mess!, did you enjoy boozing with all the blokes in the Mess whilst we "took" all the laydeez upstairs for a good time in the Goose away from your scintillating company? :}

Anyway, I'm sure I saw you in the Goose a few times during my many visits da'n sarf?

I used to love that old carpet - pity I missed the MS26 gag (surely an MS10 for wokka mates?); I'm always up for a bit of escalatory banter!!!

LJ

[The Rocket]

My my BEags,

I'm awfully surprised at your comments there!!

What's the matter? Did you not enjoy the pole dancing? Was it the enormous projector screen that put you off? Or was it simply the ladies that we stole from Timmy's that made you so bitter towards the fabulous Goose?
:p

[BEagle]

Yes, it was an MS10, now I come to think of it. Prank organised by JJ. The window was thrown open, in came the dinghy. A loud hissing noise and there was the wokka mates' answer to the fag-charioteers tatty old mat....

Make personal attacks all you like (not permitted by the rules of PPRuNe, you might note), I have never made any secret of the fact that after I did a 'pre-Vulcan Buccaneer' course, then flew the tin triangle, I crossed back over to the FJ world,but was only Op on the F4 for about 18 months before returning to multis on the VC10K.

I was discussing the Goose, not my personal time in the RAF. But sticks and stones....

Anyway, back to the Goose. During my last stint at MPA, we had to have a crack down on illegal drinking dens after a fire in one of them. At the weekly meeting of FIAW, it was stated that the problem was getting out of hand. Yet the very next night (or maybe a couple later) the OM wing was evacuated in the freezing cold because of smoke seen billowing out of the Goose as they partied until oh-dark-hundred on a Friday night - despite the fact that Saturday is supposed to be a working day at MPA. The Wg Cdr was not too pleased, to say the least, and declared that the Goose would be shut if things didn't settle down.

Then it was discoverd that the smoke alarm had been 'modified'; the smoke the police patrol had seen was only fag smoke, but could have been something more deadly. Anyone who has been to MPA should know that fire is one of the biggest threats to the place, particularly in the Death Star wings.

After another evacuation a couple of weeks later, I asked why on earth the Goose was tolerated, yet we were cracking down on anyone else who ran such a 'lounge'.... One rule for the officer aircrew and one for the rest? There was no real answer to that.

It was also necessary to close the short RW as an MT route after FOD patrols found bits of a 'recreational' MT vehicle on the RW - someone hadn't done the FOD check (it was dark - ATC won't notice...the girls are thirsty...) and had then driven to the 'Queen Vic'.... The squeals of complaint about the inconvenience such a Flight Safety measure brought to those invited to the Vic were many and loud. It seems that many people seemed to advocate behaviour which would never be tolerated on a UK base - and life at MPA was far from being particularly hard. Although it was, and probably still is, heavily fuelled by alcohol. It's been that way since MPA first opened.

I understand that Mrs Doubtfire closed most of the ISO-container drinking dens?

I'm sure that 1435 had a reason to have their own mess within a mess, but it did seem surprising that it was tolerated. And as for pole-dancing in an Officers' Mess by people-formerly-known-as-WRAFs in front of drunken aircrew - I'm sure The Sun would have loved that one.

[justone26]

Beags,

The Sun has already highlighted the drunken antics back in 2002:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2002501128,00.html

[That SAR Chap]

Glad to see that the work hard, play hard military ethos is alive and well.

Time for a Horlicks and an early night, maybe?

[justone26]

The Sun has already run a story on MPA antics in 2002.
It was written by John Kay after an RAF Officer sent them a dossier.

[Talking Radalt]

You forgot to say "..bitter and twisted RAF officer who got less "actual" than the Chinny crew" :}

[BEagle]

That'll be this article:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2002501127,00.html

about this 'dossier':
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2002501128,00.html

:hmm:

[Jetscream 32]

heard the xo from DC was a bit of a giggle......:}

[Lima Juliet]

Most amusing Goose Pole Dancing Story:

Army CBFFI on being escorted into Goose by OC1435 and seeing a young lady dancing on a pole "Good God where did you get that trollop from?", he asks.

"Sandhurst, Sir..." says OC1435 nonchalantly (she was a young Lt from the AGC!).

If looks could kill :E

Beags, I remember JJ - top geezer! Very funny.

LJ

[PPRuNeUser0172]

Beags, I do believe that was a bite.....................:}
Why so vehement about the 'drinking dens'??????????? Were your WIWOP stories too boring for those present in the goose?
'Fag Charioteers' IMHO seem too be pretty good blokes, you can look a lot closer to 'quite near an aerodrome somewhere in england' to find those of other persuasions.......... apparently;)

[midsomerjambo]

Unfortunately, in my time (at Kelly's) the only females were white, woolly and four-legged. It's tough trying to get a merino to pole dance (anyway, not sure if pole dancing per se had been invented then). I'm glad to see that things have improved over the years, but I still wouldn't want to go back ;). BTW, what about the sanctimonious b*****ks from the Sun's "military adviser" in BEAgs's link? It's probably all gone down hill since he left the army. I dunno though, I remember quite a few hairy nights in the Wokkas bar (hmmm, or do I...?).

MSJ

[callsign Metman]

I've heard a rumour that tinnies cost nearly a quid now. Surely that can't be right..can it? 30p when I was there.
Anyone know if Castaways is still open?

CM

[ConingsbyFlyingClub]

Yes Castaways is still open Also used by 1435 as their Bar closed about 3 years ago

[BEagle]

Dirty Sanchez, hola muchacho!

"Why so vehement about the 'drinking dens'???????????"

Because of the way they were being badly abused. Some were actually being set up in roof spaces and one at least caused a serious fire.

I did actually point out that if the pongoes stopped thinking that the OM bar was in Camberley and eased their daft dress rules somewhat, perhaps people would be more prepared to use the OM rather than various drinkers elsewhere in the DeathStar. But that fell on stony ground.

[flipflopman RB199]

Yes Castaways is still open Also used by 1435 as their Bar closed about 3 years ago

June 2004 the Eyrie Bar closed at 1435.

I remember it well, as I was the MC for the final Eyrie night there! :ok:


Flipflopman

[Miserable Old Git]

Ah, the Claw. Oops, shouldn’t have said that :eek:

[Air Defender]

Looks like the Goose has a bit of a fan base. Mrs Doubtfire failed to kill it Slimer failed to kill it. The Goose is a legendary institiution apparently. Clearly I can barely remember any of my nights spent there, fewer of the nights spent in Castaways and none of them spent in the Lot. But where would we be without 6 weeks a year spent beating our livers to death down south and the 24 hr Betty Ford Clinic north of the runway.
Going to the Falklands has it's perks
1. the Goose
2. Not going anywhere near hot sandy places where the locals shoot at you.
QRA might be boring but it's nice and safe and you get a lot of ATPL work done.:ok:

[GasFitter]

Rumour has it that the Eyrie Bar has re-opened!

Anything for an "Easy-Life"!

[Take That]

Apparantly,the Goose has become a bit unfashionable since the 1435 guys have become only too aware of the requirement to self-police the place to prevent a reoccurance of the sort of 'ancient history' that has been alluded to in earlier posts. However, there is still a whiff of sour grapes on the subject, generally posted through ignorance and jealousy. Personally, have enjoyed many convival evenings with 1312, 78, RRS, RIC, Navy, ATC, Fighter Controllers, BBC, CNN, House Of Commons, SSVC, the list goes on, although the 'outrageous' parties ceased a long, long time ago. Recently had a few top nights in the Chard too over my last couple of dets down south.

I also take it that those who wish too see the place closed down also wish to see all the hundreds of name badges from 23 Sqn and 1435 Flight removed from the walls approaching our lounge. Funnily enough, I cannot see the name of the 'Chief Protagonist' on this thread adorning the wall. Maybe that means something. Also do the same people wish to see the paintings, (some of which have been there for over twenty years) covered over. Is your sense of tradition, history, and dare I say it, respect for those who can no longer comment coloured by events from so long ago?

[ukmil]

the claw has indeed re-opened

[flipflopman RB199]

the claw has indeed re-opened

As 'The Claw' UKMil, or as The Eyrie Bar'?

Only it was definitely not 'The Claw' or anything like it when I was there last. Almost as good mind!! :E

Is this another one of your non-researched 'Statements Of Fact' again?


Flipflopman

[ukmil]

no, this is down to actual experience of the bar itself

[Rapscallion]

You're right flipflopman,

The Claw is no more, however the Eyrie night is back in it's spiritual home as the Eyrie bar is open for business. :D

[Barrymac]

As a former editor I feel I am dutybound to inform you....

The Claw is watching. Always. lmao :=

[Postman Plod]

PM Sent mgdaviso

[Laarbruch72]

It's a 3 year old thread.. he's probably done 2 tours since he posted his question.

[Postman Plod]

Mm I thought some of it looked familiar.... I'll get my coat.... :ugh:

[Chest Poker]

Are you that annoying little (V short) Scouse **** with arse licking tendancies to get ahead? I know your good at it though, I know you have got to Wobbly; more is the pity for those you have trampled.

If not my friend, you have chosen an unfortunate name!