Flyglobespan - 4

[Hudson Bay]

A few questions

Can anybody tell me what equipment Globespan are using on the NCL and Toronto? (I know its somewhere outside Toronto and its 50 miles out, Closer to the USA looking at the map) I've heard it is a 737. No way am I going long haul on a single isle aircraft. Is it the same aircraft operating out of Manchester to Toronto? Am I wise booking tickets or is this whole thing going tits up? Should I book Zoom? Is Globespan a member of ABTA? Nothing on their website. Thanks guys


Continuation of: http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=245931&page=13

[TechProblem]

The Man-Yhm should also be a 757, but it all depends if GSM can get 2 more 757's with the ER and 3 class config in time.

[goldeneye]

No way am I going long haul on a single aisle aircraft.
There are many airlines operating single aisle aircraft over the atlantic, Continental (B757) to Newark (from many European airports) , US Airways(B757) to PHL from Glasgow, Thomas Cook (B757) to Eastern Canada, Air Canada(A319) from Heathow to St Johns, Astraeus (B737) to Deer Lake, to name a few. Why would you not want to go long haul on a Single Aisle as it is becoming very much a normal occurance now. Also TCX operate a NCL-YYZ flight but thats a 757.
Air Transat have an EDI-YYZ on a A310 if you want to go widebody.

[goldeneye]

Ive been looking at the YVR & YYC flights from GLA, MAN & LGW and the flight times sugest these routes will be operated by the one Boeing 767.
It operates as follows:-
Monday :- GLA - YVR, YVR - YYC - LGW
Tuesday :- LGW - YYC - YVR, YVR - MAN
Wednesday :- MAN - YVR, YVR - LGW
Thursday :- LGW - YVR, YVR - YYC - GLA
Friday :- GLA - YYC - YVR, YVR - YYC - MAN
Saturday :- MAN - YYC - YVR, YVR - LGW
Sunday :- LGW - YVR, YVR - GLA

[johnrizzo2000]

[quote=Hudson Bay;3075338]
No way am I going long haul on a single isle aircraft.

Get used to it. CO, US and soon DL will be operating them. Most of the charter's fly 'em as well!!! Very few people would turn their noses up at flying a 757 across the pond if the fare's were low, or the alterantive was a flight via LHR etc!!!!

[afterdark]

Toronto isn't exactly long haul more medium haul,
It is not much more like GLA/EDI/ABZ - TFS/SSH/HRG
UK to EWR/BOS
It Is All In The Airlines Seat Configuration ( take TOM 763 for example, these squeeze Pax like sardines and operate them to southern US & Caribbean even Oz before sheer punishment ) because it is a wide bodied aircraft doesnt make it more comfortable.
the above routes have been and are used succesfully by 757's even A320/737 recently
We all have to get used to it in the future when the next generation of single aisle replacements for the A320/737 alike are introduced there will be a model that is to replace the 757-200 seating and range without the awsome powered 757 engines

has anyone ( crew or pax ) flew on their Saturday GLA - SFB on the 738 ?
how was it or what did the pax think I believe the aircraft is in normal short haul configuration

[AEUENG]

Yep, Flew on G-SAAW 737-800 from GLA to SFB. The aircraft is configured for 189 seats if I remember correctly. Not the most comfy flight I have ever been on but that said, there were very few moans from the pax. Must have had their minds firmly set on meeting Micky and Minnie!

[Jet_stream]

Yep I did that route 3 times (as crew)....to be honest pax were generally ok as most had been advised in advance of a/c change. Seating on the 738 is just as comfortable at on the 763 in economy and premium economy. Business pax who chose to travel on 738 obviously missed out on the business seating and had a reduced service ( ie meals on standard lay ups as apposed to plated meals). As far as I know business pax were offered a free flight to SFB also.

There was no IFE for the economy pax, but portable IFE players were offered to pax who had booked business or premium seats.

As a crew member it was hard work, what with pax queueing for toilets and galley space etc but we managed.

The 738 no longer operates to SFB.

[Vicarious]

Did I hear a sniff about GSM doing STN-LCA?

If so, when are they going to launch it? I can't find it on their website...

:confused:

[runawayedge]

Rumour mill in Ireland suggesting an announcement of transatlantic services through NOC for summer allegedly to be unveiled at Holiday World, RDS, Dublin this weekend!

[CLIPPER 33]

Its been widely reported that they are stopping the LPL JFK service in
NOC a couple of times a week.

[runawayedge]

Clipper....with respect I am well aware that it has been widely reported, I am however alluding to the rumour mill from NOC over the last few weeks hinting that it may elevate from a possible launch to an official launch!

[sawtooth]

According to a local news paper the service has US DTO approval and they are waiting on the Irish government.

http://westernpeople.ie/news/story.asp?j=35183&cat=news

[point5]

All GSM flights to New York departing Sunday, Tuesday and Thursday will stop at Knock. The aircraft will now land at JFK at 1800 rather than 1530 but departs Liverpool half an hour earlier.
The return flights on Sun, Tue and Thur operate via Knock inbound too arriving at Liverpool at 0845.
This applies to the summer schedule only at the present time.
Cheers!

[dwlpl]

The Glasgow/Boston operates westbound via Knock on Wednesday and Sunday and eastbound on Tuesday and Saturday during the summer period.

[gaelgeoir]

Great for Knock passengers; not such an attractive product for Liverpool passengers?

[diesel36]

Liverpool pax can choose the days it goes direct, not a problem for LPL pax really,

[ryan2000]

If this works from Knock it should work from Cork which has a far greater catchment area and has many US companies based in the vicinity of the airport.

[firstchoice7e7]

When exactly in summer is the 3rd 767 from NZ due? Jethros has it listed as ZKNCO

[jethro15]

When exactly in summer is the 3rd 767 from NZ due? Jethros has it listed as ZKNCO
Is it still due? Latest I've heard, but I stress NOT confirmed.

The two B767's to return to the lessor Apr / May 07
GSM will not acquire their own B757's
The first new B737-700 due in Feb 07 will be regd G-MSJF (Reason?)
All transatlantic services (With the exception of GLA / BOS) to be sub-contracted out.
Loftleidir / Icelandair have proposed a deal for the use of up to six B757's

There have been so many differing variations of the fleet proposals for summer 07, that it is getting nigh impossible to separate fact from fiction. Anyone in a position to confirm or deny the above?

jethro
UK and Ireland Airline Fleet Listings
http://www.jethros.i12.com

[diesel36]

The 767,s are not going back, 1 is staying with AIR INDIA the other so far is doing the daily SFB from GLA, 1 757 of our own then having 2 757 from ICELANDAIR.

extra 2 737-700 coming plus 2 more 737-800 = 5x 737-800 for summer

One of the 757 from icelandair will be doing the daily LPL/JFK

Also 1 x 767-300ER dont know where its coming from, we presume icelandair as well, not been confirmed yet.

All icelandair on damp lease. there flight deck our cabin crew

[diesel36]

Cape Town on sale for winter 07 plus JNB now on sale as well twice a week..

[sickBocks]

Jethro - I think the 73G is G-MSJF because JF is the Director of Flt Ops' initials - dunno who/what MS is.

[TSR2]

Slight delay on the return flight to Manchester from Toronto today ..... 20 hours

[TechProblem]

Yup, a/c's cockpit window is broke, still not fixed..... CPT's are going to be about the same......

[Mr A Tis]

So, the aircraft is running over 20hrs late, due to a tech problem..but are you saying despite the delays, the tech problem isn't fixed?:confused:

[TechProblem]

It was fixed in GLA, but i understand the problem had re-occurred during the flight to YYZ, the a/c came back from YYZ to MAN and was fixed in a hanger this morning.

FG, is on its way to CPT and should take tomorrow's CPT out 8 hours later than 15:25.....:ugh: Unless the aircraft doesn't want to....:uhoh:

[afterdark]

from Manchester Airport website

A GSM712 05 Feb 07:55 Cape Town Expected 5 Feb 22:30

I was checking the GLA - SFB routing usually taken on a Tuesday with the 763 via BFS, but see it is only operating Wednesday at the moment according to GSM's website, but the aircraft does not leave SFB till Thursday evening's to return is there a reason for this.

[TechProblem]

The Gsm 712 arrived this morning at 09:30, and will be taking Monday's pax out at 15:25, then arriving back in MAN tomorrow approx, 8 am.

SFB to GLA is to depart at 20:50 and arrive in SFB at 02:15, guessing thats a re-sche...then the a/c will be back on it normal sche...

Its been one hell of a weekend for FG...:ouch:

[point5]

Whats the deal with the LPL-JFK route then? The flight times have changed (again) on the website. For example...

Saturday 07 July 2007 GSM201 15:00 18:00
Sunday 08 July 2007 GSM201 12:30 15:30
Monday 09 July 2007 GSM201 15:00 18:00
Tuesday 10 July 2007 GSM201 12:30 15:30
Wednesday 11 July 2007 GSM201 12:30 15:30
Thursday 12 July 2007 GSM201 12:30 15:30
Friday 13 July 2007 GSM201 15:00 18:00

So, Tues, Thurs and Sun will be via NOC. The Wed flight which is direct takes just as long to reach the states... OR... does this mean that 4 of the weekly flights could be going via NOC? The other 3 flights now leave at 3pm (thanks for letting me know of the time change via email GSM :ugh: ) but the flight takes just as much time as if they were stopping in Ireland.

Confused :confused:

[10 DME ARC]

.5 - Could it be stopping some where else? I had heard LPL-JFK was not selling very well and hence the drop into Knock! Could the other days be visiting some where else??

[dwlpl]

Going at some of the fares for the route I think what you heard is wrong.

Looking at the airlines other routes it looks like a flyGlobespan thing to stop enroute. You only have to look at Stansted to Toronto this summer with every flight having a stop, the Glasgow to Boston is the same as the LPL/JFK in having a stop in Knock on some days. Even some of its European routes are having stops.

[10 DME ARC]

dwlpl - Don't get your back up! No airline would double pick up because its their 'thing'! GSM do so to fill a/c, mind you the costs doing this must be high, on fuel alone!
LPL must be difficult to sell transatlantic with the choice avalable down the road at Manchester?

[dwlpl]

As I pointed out its done by them on numerous routes not just Liverpool.

[Mr A Tis]

I checked a few random dates & BA Economy class dirct from MAN-JFK was cheaper than the Globespan equivalent (eco plus), by as much as £100 at times. Doesn't seem to be a bargain bucket operation. The web timetable doesn't give any indication that their flights are not non-stop (on any route). That's something I'd like to take into consideration before making a booking.

[dwlpl]

The route is as I said previously is showing an increase in fares from the basic rate points towards seats selling at a good rate.

[ManchesterMan]

TF-FIB arrived back to Manchester from its
lease to Santa Barbara on Monday...
is this one of the B767's for lease to GSM and its
ever expanding summer network ?


MM

[point5]

I don't think so. As far as I am aware the B767s are coming from ANZ and the B757s from ICE. I may be mistaken!

GSM seem to have at least tidied a bit of the timetable issue up. All direct service depart LPL at 1500 arriving at 1800 (7 hours). All services via Knock depart LPL at 1230 arriving at JFK at 1530 (also 7 hours!!).

The timings from Knock state a 1430 depature (sounds about right), but arrives into JFK at 1800!!

[mathers_wales_uk]

GSM Comes to CWL tomorrow on a charter flight to EDI carying the Wales rugby team. If rumours are true then this maybe a familiar sight at CWL in a couple of years.

:ok:

[Icelandic_pilot]

2 757's from Icelandair yes, one flying LPL-JFK and the other GLA-BOS.

TF-FIB is not going to fly for Flyglobespan no. It will be leased to a airline in Finland.

[10 DME ARC]

Sorry to go off at a tangent but on the GSM North American web site what do American pax’s see when trying to book Glasgow or Liverpool?? The houses of parliament! Come on couldn’t we find a good enough land mark up north!!
I can just see the look on the Liverpoolion taxi drivers face when the American punter gets in and asks to go to the houses of Parliament!! :E

[dwlpl]

It will be like a cartoon with his eyes rolling around with pound signs instead of $.

[smith]

Let me get this right. The GSM 767 lands at SFB on the Weds and sits on the tarmac until Thursday 18.00 for the return. Is it the same crew that brings it back?

[ManchesterMan]

Icelantic Pilot

Thanks for that.

MM

[TechProblem]

Yes smith, its the same with the CPT's

[Vuelo]

GSM are really doing themselves no favours at all with long haul pax at MAN. The CPT was cancelled again yesterday after being delayed for 3 hours because of some balls up with a planned tech stop, firstly to be in Accra and then Tenerife.

Get your act together you shower!

[yvonnelynch]

what a/c was being used ? does the 767 not go direct to cpt

[TechProblem]

All depends if thw weather over Africa is ok, if not there is a tech stop in PMI for fuel.

[pamann]

Do you guys think/or know if GSM will ever lauch STN-SFB??? Surely it would be a success???

[goldeneye]

13th February 2007 00:07
pamann Do you guys think/or know if GSM will ever lauch STN-SFB??? Surely it would be a success???

Cant see it happening anytime soon, the London - Orlando route is pretty busy as it its what with VS, BA, TOM, TCX, MYT, MON, FCA, XLA all operating, plus the numerous connections via US/Canada etc.

[diesel36]

Rumours from here in the uk and from india that the 2nd 767 will be joining the other one in mumbai. must be making them some money

neos are having a 767 in the uk for gsm wonder if any more are coming from somewhere..

[Vuelo]

you dont even know the reasons why.. not gsms fault by the way



I do know the reason actually....I was there and winessed the whole débarcle!

[diesel36]

so you will know it wasnt the fault of gsm.

so dont slag them of, its there first few months of ops at manchester

people want more routes options, give them a chance.

people love to shoot them down before they get going

[EGCC4284]

Ok and who's fault was it then

[TechProblem]

One week messed up due to the weather/fueling problem, and one week due to the a/c being tech once in SFB then in GLA then on the way to YYZ.

If GSM had subbed out the flight when the a/c went tech in SFB we wouldn't be even having this conversation.

As for the second 767 going to air india, i cant see that happening as there summer program is to big for one 767 unless the program is going to be reduced again... YHM could be the casulty again.

Although one 767 op hasnt proved to be a wise desion in the past few weeks...

[DTVAirport]

They're leasing one from Neos to cover for the second B763ER going on lease to Air India, they're also getting one from Icelandair.

[TechProblem]

Hmm i knew the one from Air NewZeland was late, i guess it was to late for GSM.

[point5]

Is it more financially benificial for GSM to lease their own 767 out to AIC and lease another in to operate their own services, than operate their own services with their own aircraft (if you see what I mean)? Its the same with bmi who lease their A330 to Virgin Nigeria then lease a foreign 767 in its place! Strange.

Anyway, any truth in LPL-MCO and LPL-BOS starting when GSM have enough airyplanes?

Cheers!

[irishcc]

I see from the GSM website that they are recruiting for Cabin Crew at LGW.

Anybody know if this will be a temp Summer base, or something longer term ?

[jethro15]

Any truth in the rumour that there is currently a disagreement between ILFC and GSM regarding the acquisition of the latest B737-700

[DTVAirport]

Oh great, ILFC appear to be holding back Flyg's first B73GW over some disagreement. I was hoping they'd send one of those to the MME base, despite the rumours that MME will get a B736 and a B738W. :(

[SkyTrax2]

Hi,

Cant be that much of a problem, the aircraft is sitting at Glasgow now, arrived at 0540 hrs on Saturday morning from Boeing Field!

Cheers

[mmeteesside]

Now seems MME is getting 2x 737-300's from Globy.

[TechProblem]

Now seems MME is getting 2x -300's from Globy.
I take it you mean 737's not the 767's :rolleyes:

[mmeteesside]

Yes indeed, 767's would be lovely but no way would that happen ;) That would wipe out the whole fleet of 767's for the summer!

[dwlpl]

Not forgetting Liverpools 757-200.

[Carnethy]

Hi GLAGAZ

I don't see Paphos (PFO) in your list of flights for the 738W grom GLA? I know this is operating as I'm booked in April. Flight time changed though from mid-afty to 6pm as has been the case in previous years.

[TechProblem]

In reply to your post GLAGAZ, i think MAN will op a 767 for most of the week to Calgary/Vancouver, the YHM was going to be a 757, but not sure it may still go on 767.

Although GSM's web site you can book via the low fare finder but not on the Flight finder. Might be reading to much into it but there are 2 YYZ options up to the 30th. :confused:

YYZ route has been doing well, with larger loads than the CPT so not sure why they would pull it.

[Carnethy]

No probs. It is quite some list though for just one aircraft, especially with 2 long-hauls (YHM & BOS). How is all this to be scheduled? Hate to think of the consequences if it goes tech!!

[goldeneye]

The Western Canada flights are to be operated by one Boeing 767 operating on a W style pattern, see my earlier post for thr routings.

YYC & YVR Flights

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Ive been looking at the YVR & YYC flights from GLA, MAN & LGW and the flight times sugest these routes will be operated by the one Boeing 767.
It operates as follows:-
Monday :- GLA - YVR, YVR - YYC - LGW
Tuesday :- LGW - YYC - YVR, YVR - MAN
Wednesday :- MAN - YVR, YVR - LGW
Thursday :- LGW - YVR, YVR - YYC - GLA
Friday :- GLA - YYC - YVR, YVR - YYC - MAN
Saturday :- MAN - YYC - YVR, YVR - LGW
Sunday :- LGW - YVR, YVR - GLA

[DTVAirport]

I hear a B738W configured with just 150 seats will operate GLA-BOS, the one leased from Travel Service Airlines perhaps?

[mmeteesside]

No it's the newest B738 that will come configed with 150ish seats, don't think TVS would allow their crews to go to BOS :confused:

[touch&go]

The new 73G arrived at GLA, link to a picture:

http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=1180804&size=L&width=1024&height=695&sok=JURER%20%20%28ZNGPU%20%28nvepensg%2Cnveyvar%2Ccynpr%2Ccu bgb_qngr%2Cpbhagel%2Cerznex%2Ccubgbtencure%2Crznvy%2Clrne%2C ert%2Cnvepensg_trarevp%2Cpa%2Cpbqr%29%20NTNVAFG%20%28%2Bt-zfws%20VA%20OBBYRNA%20ZBQR%29%29%20%20beqre%20ol%20cubgb_vq% 20QRFP&photo_nr=1

[DTVAirport]

What's happening with GSM this summer? Sending aircraft on lease, cancelling future leases, is this a hint that they're in trouble?

[Whitehatter]

I think there's a ton of money to be made in India at the moment. Too many routes opening up and not enough drivers and crews for them.

If you can't hire drivers for your own metal, the only other option is ACMI which can be profitable for the lessor. Air India will also have a lot of people doing conversion at the moment as their new 777s get delivered.

[TechProblem]

Thats all fair enough leaseing there 767 to Air India to make some cash, but according to jethros fleet listings the 767 lease from Iceland air has gone will the 757's as well, so the question is what is going to operate the MAN-YHM, MAN-YYC, LPL-JFK, and also the SFB route (although that has been oped on a 737 b4 hmm nice...)

Getting close to these new routes and no aircraft to op them :ugh:

[DTVAirport]

The summer schedules begin in 23 days, they're gonna be hard pushed to find suitable equipment in such short notice.

[jet2_at_blk]

Does anybody know who is operating the BFS-YHM flights this summer. On the OAG website, it says that FlyZoom will be operating the flights. Is this true?

[Jet_stream]

No this is not true, the BFS- YHM originates in STN. STN - BFS - YHM.

[goldeneye]

Zoom operate to Pearson YYZ from BFS, in addition to YVR

[diesel36]

just been informed by the company that the second 767 is going to Air India in May and 2 NEOS 767s will be doing the longhaul programme with cabin and flightdeck crews 2 Icelandair 757s and as we dreaded they are using the 737-800 to Hamilton out of Manchester. Oh dear .

if you read it properly we have 2 75 from icelandair and our own 75
no 737 is operating from manchester.... just the 75 from gsm and 767 from neos..

[Hudson Bay]

Well I for one ain't going to fly to Hamilton on a 737 from Manchester. Your bosses must come from another planet. It's a short haul aircraft. Always has been and always will be.

Is Globespan advertising this? I bet not. Bunch of idiot's.

[TechProblem]

Are you quoting that first bit of your post Diesal, otherwise your contradicting yourself with the second part about the 737 out of Manchester.

If an 737-800 'was' going to op the YHM route it would have to go via Iceland to re-fuel as the first flight to YYZ did out of Manchester in November. :rolleyes:

[spantheman]

Flight is being operated by 757-200ER of GSM not a 737-800. There is no 737 in MAN or LPL this summer.

[goldeneye]

Does anyone know where the 757 is coming from now, and with the 767's coming from neos are they going to be in GSM colours or Neos ?

[Skipness One Echo]

The 737-200 is a short haul aircraft. It is not comparable to a B737-800W. Even the B737-700 / BBJ is used on KLM services operated by Privitair across the pond. It is quite a different animal I think.

[Albert Hall]

Friday MAN-YHM is on a 737-800 from July, with tech stop at Keflavik both ways.

757 is flying the Dub/Shannon on Fridays and then operates the LGW and MAN flights to YHM on the other six days.

GLA-YHM is 737 every day except for Fridays when the flight is cancelled to free up the 737 for the Manchester op.

[slightlyrestrained]

OK, I'll admit, I'm completely befuddled about these Neos 767s.
Looking at the Neos website, they're configured in a one-class layout - surely Globespan wouldn't change this to their 3-class layout just for one Summer of operation? Or have I missed something here....

And what exactly is the point of having two of your own 767s when you go and lease them to another airline...meaning you have to lease in other 767s?!

It just doesn't make sense. At least, it doesn't to me!

Rob

[Carnethy]

It makes no sense to me either. Being a Scot I hope they are doing the right thing - it would be good to see a Scottish airline survive, but the way things are happening.....Laker springs to mind!

I am just about to book on the inaugural flight from EDI to YHM (5 May) but I'm extremely reluctant. I would like to have some sort of guarantee that if I book premium economy that I'll be getting a 757 with what I pay for and not a 737! It's very disconcerting. YHM is far more convenient but at least I'd no what I'm getting if I book with Air Transat and go to YYZ. Does anyone else have my concerns? It all seems such a mess......so should I or shouldn't I?????? :{

[SkyTrax2]

its all to with money, lets face it if GSM were not making money leasing the aircraft out to Air India then why would they do it, they certainly wouldnt do it for fun!!From an outsider I think there expansion is meteoric but give them there due they are a forward thinking company who wont let anyone get in there way!Not affiliated with GSM just proud they are scottish and what they done for travel from Central Scotland when Easyjet wouldnt take it on!Go GSM!

[warkman]

So, exactly what a/c will be doing the SFB route this summer?

[Hudson Bay]

Carnethy
I share your reservations and am not sure to book or not. I want too book, but my gut feeling is Globespan will go bust before the summer. I will not fly the puddle in a 737. It is a crazy, crazy thought that only a crazy looper could think up.
What fool came up with this crazy idea?? Please give me his name. I will track him down, rip his head off and cak in his neck. Stupid is what stupid does.
Somebody please tell me it's not a 737. I pax BFS - EDI in a 737.
Globespan get your act together. Put on your website the equipment you will use this summer. Stop trying to trick pax onto your aircraft.

[SkyTrax2]

Hudson Bay,

I am sure l have read very imformative posts by you over time on prune, but your last may l say is utter drivel!!

What is it exactly with the 737 you object to across the atlantic?

Lets face it Globespan are not pioneers, there are quite a few operators already doing it!

I agree there plans look strange but l do think they know what they are doing, time will tell, however one thing l will say your assertion that they will go bust that they will go bust before the summer is totally wrong.

One thing l personally would like is they concentrated on Scotland because let me tell you guys down south of hadrians wall this company has been going great guns up here and the majority of the travelling public are delighted with the company doing the routes that sleasyjet would not even entertain because it was "too expensive".

There you go, and l dont even work for them.

[EI-BUD]

Sky Trax 2
Hi all!!
Reading with interest the commentaries about 737 operations on the Atlantic. I am absolutley delighted that Flyglobespan are lauching NOC to USA even if it is using 738 on some flights.

However, I just picked up on what you wrote there 'sky trax2' that
Lets face it Globespan are not pioneers, there are quite a few operators already doing it
I am wondering who is using the 737 on Transatlantic services already? As this comment surprises me?

For the record i dont have any concerns about 737s on T/A. Re the comments about Flyglobespan, I remember when the were doing Scotland to STN and many said at that time that there were doing quite badly but if sources are right they have very strong financial backing. Lets hope they are around for the long haul.. Excuse the pun!!!!
EI BUD

[OltonPete]

EI-BUD

As far as I am aware no UK operator are sending 737's across the Atlantic
on schedule services or ever have.

Astraeus use the 73G but I don't think it is classed as a schedule but could be wrong.

However KLM, Swiss and Lufthansa all send 73G/319's across the Atlantic
but in low density configuration and the aircraft belong to Privatair.

In short, it is happening but not in the same config that flyglobespan will use.

Also it is rumoured that eventually once the Continental 757's retire, then it is possible they will use the 739ER (I am not sure if they have any on order yet or it is just a consideration).

OP

[EI-BUD]

Olton Pete
Thanks for the Info. I forgot all about the Privatair flights!

And yes I think you are right about Continental using 739s in the future as this A/C is the replacement for 757?

Cheers.
EI-BUD

[yvonnelynch]

well does anyone know what a/c will be going bfs-sfb i am booked for may in business the i have already selected my seats i think it was on a 767

[TechProblem]

Even if GSM are going to use there 737's across the pond, they are not in 3 class config, which people are buying. :ugh:

[Flybeeeee]

Does anyone know which a/c will be operating the Exeter - Hamilton flights?

[mmeteesside]

Should be an Icelandair B757-200 (STN base)

[jethro15]

Should be an Icelandair B757-200 (STN base)
I'm not trying to be funny here, but are you absolutely 100% certain about this? If so, your source is……..?

jethro
UK and Ireland Airline Fleet Listings
http://www.jethros.i12.com

[unique]

Do flyGlobespan ever reply to emails? I went for an interview 1st March and got a 2 to 1 interview and was told I would hear, as of yet not a sausage! How long does it take them to reply with an outcome of an interview?
Unique

[Flybeeeee]

Oh right, thanks for that. Was hoping it would be a B767 but never mind.

(Ps Jethro - Love your website. Am always monitoring it :) )

[mmeteesside]

Thought I'd read somewhere on the Cabin Crew forum that it was going to be an Icelandair 752 but can't find it now, sure it said something about 738 operating GLA-YHM 6x a week and once from MAN (the 7th GLA being cancelled), or something like that.....

All up in the air at the moment as to what will and what won't be operating, and as far as I can gather from the CC forum, they don't know what is going on either.

[dwlpl]

I'm not trying to be funny here, but are you absolutely 100% certain about this? If so, your source is……..?

Isn't all the Stansted one stop flights to Hamilton with the 757-200?

[DONTTELLTHEPAX]

BAA website shows B767-300 (under timetable), alough it is still showing direct flight :ugh: .

[jet2_at_blk]

BAA say alot of things!

Want to fly LS EDI-PRG this summer? 752 if you ask BAA!:hmm: OBVIOUSLY NOT! (733 for anybody who doesn't know!;))

[TechProblem]

Isn't all the Stansted one stop flights to Hamilton with the 757-200?
GSM need to get hold of some first....:ugh: :uhoh:

[gavin360]

i have travelled twice now with them bfs-sfb and 2 more trips booked for june and sept in business any info would be great thanks

[afterdark]

with another 4 x new 737W's still to arrive ( 3 x 738W's & a 737W ) for this summer aparently, do not be surprised if some/all these new aircraft are re-configured to suit the new transatlantic operations.

[gavin360]

can a 737w make it direct to sfb or will it be stopping at stjohns like the flights early this year

[mm0wkj]

As Globespan have now leased both of their 767's to Air India and leased 2 x 767 306's from Neo (which do not have Business or Premium seating) looks like there will be a lot of unhappy travellers this summer.

Can anyone confirm if there will be Business class accross the pond this summer or are we doomed to paying for a service simply to be informed that it wont be available just days before we travel, and have to waste time complaining to get the money back for a service we shouldn't have paid for in the 1st place???

I fly may 17th, returning June 1st and have spent all day surfing to get more info, as well as calls to Globespan who are still apparantly offering business class on those dates.

Aircraft quoted is 767 with business seating of 2-2-2. This is fine but have been told there will be a 767 with 2-2..... Great, space between the seates will be huge with just 4 seats accross a 767...Sounds like they are grabbing as much cash as possible to get the interest and then will plead ignorance to the fact they were never giving Business class in the 1st place. I've had my flight time changed already so it looks like the've started the dreaded TASS incremental changes (Time, Aircraft, Seating, Services).

This is my 2nd flight with GS, 1st was great, looks like this one could be a shambles.

Anyone got any insider info on the A/C planned for flights 17th May and 1st June?

[Curious Pax]

They could of course be fitting their business class seats to the Neos aircraft - I shouldn't think the current ones are bolted that firmly!

[mm0wkj]

not unless they have extras lying around. Air India have requested the original seats be left in the GSr registered aircraft..

[afterdark]

the 737 in without low seat ( around 50 ) configuration is at it's limit around the Boston maybe at a stretch Toronto areas, so SFB direct is definetly out of the question unless stops are planned.

I would not be surprised if they lost a few seats and used the 737W's on the Glasgow to Boston, Liverpool to Newark or the UK to Hamilton flights. Seating can't be that much different to the 757 currently used by some airlines on U.K. > U.S. East Coast flights.

1 x B737-7W is destined for Aberdeen I believe, anyone know where the other is destined for ? or is it planned for longer flights.

The 767-300ER operated by Neos seem to be 280 seat unique class which i would believe to be single class with IFE so maybe it is planned to remove a few rows to offer seperate classes, dont suppose they are offering Neos catering though.

[dwlpl]

..... Liverpool is to New York JFK not Newark.

[skyman771]

mm0wkj'This is fine but have been told there will be a 767 with 2-2..... Great, space between the seates will be huge with just 4 seats accross a 767...' Pure fantasy ! it will NEVER happen:sad:

[webby1919]

The NEOS A/C are set to be re-configured to offer Bus/PE/No-Frills, but BUS won't have sleeper seats I think. The service will be much the same as GSM provides, full meal service, etc.

The B752 will operate the YHM flights from GLA and the B738 will still operate the BOS flights over S07.

The 1st B737-700 that is currently at GLA will operate from ABZ over S07 and the 2nd is due Spring and will operate from MME, where it'll join the 1st B733 based there from Mar 07.

[mm0wkj]

Hi webby1919. I'm getting so much conflicting oinfo out of GS I dont know if anyone there knows what is going on.

Latest is..they dont know what a/c will be flying accross the pond, apparently they will discover that later this afternoon??? How can they sell seats on a plane they dont know they will have?.

Info yesterday was it would be a 767, 3 class, 2-2-2 in business, then it was a 767 2-2 in business (yeah right, that would give you almost as much space as BA 1st class in a 777....dont think so). Then today its a 757 2-2 in business but the seat alocation letters were all wrong, now its back to a 767 with 38" pitch in business (not the 50" quoted) and they're not sure if it will be 2-2-2. 2-3-2 or whatever they can cram in on the day.

I've been promised a call later today. If they ever get round to deciding what will be flying I'll let you all know. In the mean time I'm not holding my breath. By the time May gets here we'll be flying an a fokker 100, stopping in the Faroes, Iceland, Greenland, Canada, and North Carlolina to take on coal and water to stoke the boiler.

[webby1919]

It looks as though the Timetables for longhaul are being rejigged just now - they're not available for booking, so what you say might actually be in the process of updating the site just now to give seat pitches, etc.

[gavin360]

i called globespan this afternoon and they said that the flight was going ahead on a 767 i enquired about the possibility of a/c being a 757 the girl said it was a 767 on screen and that was all she could find i have already selected seats for myself and the seven people travelling with me i will be ripping if they mess us about

[Evileyes]

Discussions regarding seating and such should be posted in the SLF forum. As it would take major surgury to get this thread back on-track it will be closed.

Feel free to start another if there is a fresh topic to be discussed regarding FlyGlobespan.

Cheers,
The AA&R Mods