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I was told that single pilot on a Citation SP does not require a Single pilot endorsement if operated in the private category as long as the citation is an SP.
Can you also confirm whether on the N reg in Europe the co-pilot legally needs a type rating or SIC rating?
My guess is that the pilot needs to be single pilot endorsed to fly a Citation SP single pilot and the co-pilot needs at least a SIC rating to legalise the flight if the Captain doesnt have a single pilot endorsement?
I am talking private operations.
Thanks
Pace
Chilli Monster
20th Mar 2007, 11:55
was told that single pilot on a Citation SP does not require a Single pilot endorsement if operated in the private category as long as the citation is an SP.
Yes - aircraft is below 5700kg / 12,500lbs so no SPW required - just a type rating.
Can you also confirm whether on the N reg in Europe the co-pilot legally needs a type rating or SIC rating?
Yes - Europe doesn't recognise the SPW (Single Pilot Waiver) for the C550/560 series - so P2 requires an SiC rating (not that difficult to obtain, just a pain as it requires a visit to the US)
My guess is that the pilot needs to be single pilot endorsed to fly a Citation SP single pilot and the co-pilot needs at least a SIC rating to legalise the flight if the Captain doesnt have a single pilot endorsement?
Not quite. See answers above.
Double check with CAA.
I want to fly a C551 (ie C550 that is limited to MTOW of 12500 and certified for SP) privately. I have a C500 series typerating but was told that i have to do a 5 day single pilot course costing approx $11000.
If anyone knows differently please let me know. I know in the States they consider my rating sufficient to fly the 551 single pilot but here in Europe things appear to be different. :suspect:
Here's hoping someone has found a way round this.
the 551 is around 8000 ibs fuel 5000 ibs which is above the 12500 ibs before you think of passengers or luggage.
Other than the shortest trips with a light passenger load the 12500 ibs would be exceeded.
In that case it becomes a 2 pilot operation?
Pace
Chilli Monster
20th Mar 2007, 19:44
In that case it becomes a 2 pilot operation?
No - in that case you're operating it outside your maximum certificated Take off Mass, your flight becomes illegal and your insurance becomes invalid if you have an accident.
There's a huge trade off in payload v fuel in the 551 - that's why there aren't many of them in Europe.