More Ek B777s?

[TangoUniform]

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The Dubai-based Emirates Airline has signed an agreement with GE Commercial Aviation Service (GECAS) to lease five more Boeing 777-300ER aircraft, local newspaper Khaleej Times reported on Wednesday.
According to the report, all of the five Boeing 777 aircraft are expected to be delivered in the second half of 2008.
The five planes will have a three-class configuration, with mini-suites in First Class, lie-flat Business seats, spacious Economy seats and the latest in-flight entertainment, the report said.
"Our fleet is a key factor in our organic growth strategy and these new leased aircraft will minimize the impact of any shortfalls in our fleet projections," Sheikh Ahmed bin Saeed Al Maktoum, Chairman and Chief Executive of the Emirates Airline, was quoted as saying.
"It's no secret that Emirates has mapped an ambitious growth plan for the next 10 years, which can be gauged by our intention to launch services to Venice, Houston, Sao Paolo and Newcastle this year," he added.
Established in 1985 by the Dubai government, Emirates Airlines currently operates services to more than 80 destinations in Europe, the Middle East, Africa, Asia, Oceania and North America.




Trainers and Pilots?

[BYMONEK]

' ......spacious economy seats....'. Mmm, a classic example of an oxymoron if ever there was one! Even more so considering we're one of the very few Airlines that puts 10 across instead of 9. No wonder its nickname down the back is the 'cripple seven'.

[ETOPS]

So what are they planning to do with the 3 parked in Seattle....?

[Vorsicht]

Why dont you take Ed up on his offer to go and have a chat, let him know your plan. I'm sure he'll jump at the chance to have his bonus reduced due to increased pilot costs. NOT!

V

[Ghostflyer]

Is it true that there are aircraft in the paint shops and that the time taken for servicing inspections has been extended so that we have fewer standing about?

We gained what? 7? 10? pilots total last month but still have aircraft arriving at an alarming rate. We are outsourcing our training on the Boeing when just 12 months ago they had a massive surplus of pilots. When will someone wake up to the fact that there is a pilot shortage that has to be fixed immediately. Surely we are beyond the face saving stage and at the recognise the problem and fix it stage!:uhoh: :ugh: :{ :zzz:

[TangoUniform]

But remember, HR has a final say in all pilots. Doesn't matter that they may be a TRE/TRI at another major world player, if they don't fit the HR mold-bye, bye. Many a solid, qualified applicant has been told, "thanks, but no thanks". The numbers are not there, but HR acts as if there are thousands of TRE's from KAL, SIA etc. just banging on the door.:ugh:

Current KAL contract for 777 DECs-13 days off in a row each month with positive biz class seats to any KAL destination roundtrip, and approx. $11k after Korean taxes plus housing (hotel, apartment) in Seoul. Better get with it HR.

[Vorsicht]

I tend to disagree with you about it being our loss.

Those meeting have always been a waste of time. At least by walking out on AAR it sent a clear message to him that we wont tolerate his BS. Sure we still get shovelled the BS, but that is for management benefit, not ours. It was no coincidence that Maurice stopped being invited to those meetings. He listened and changed something, he has not been back and neither has any change been effected since. I dont think for a minute that if everyone had sat nicely and had said nice things to our glorius leaders, then things would be any different now. They would have done the same sh*t anyway. They were just P*ssed off that they came to spread the propoganda and no one swallowed it.

The meetings are not intended to facilitate change they are just a vehicle for management to pretend to be listening while giving them an opportunity to identify trouble makers.

Not until we have proper representation, and those representative get to sit around a table and have meaningful dialogue with management, will it ever be worth attending a "pilot to pilot" meeting.

By the way what is this "pilot to pilot" crap anyway. Its "pilot to management" or at best "pilot to a guy who used to fly short haul and now thinks he is a long haul expert".

Rant over

V

[ruserious]

Walking out gave them the excuse to knock the meetings-idea on the head, and thereby avoid ever having to face a decent number of "lazy pilots" ever again
Precisely, they where looking for an excuse, if it had not been this one, they would have found another. Furthermore it si their job to manage us, not get upset and spit the dummy, when they can't hold the attention / respect of their employees. They get paid the big bucks and high percentile shares of the profit share to be able to manage us. We on the other hand get our T&C's hammered to achieve their huge bonuses.

[GMDS]

It doesn't impress them when guys walk out of a placebo meeting. It doesn't impress them when guys walk out of crappy rostering, or walk away from discretion. It doesn't even impress them when others walk out for good.
Why bother? Just continue the walking. More hardware not flying WILL impress them. Sure enough they'll blame us and others, but metal lying around IS visible.