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What's a Girdler
14th Jul 2005, 15:37
Hi all

I have seen the titled flight school in San Jose to go and do some hours building out there, any experience and thoughts on this school would be most appreciated. Looking to go in March next year after I've finished the filthy 14!!

Cheers

WaG

MDC123
14th Aug 2005, 16:14
Found this during headache inducing reseach into FTO.

Had a search and no comments on the FTO or the course but it's sounds pretty good on the website (but then don't they all!)

Has anyone out there any comments on this FTO?

Text below copied on JAA ab intio fAPTL:-

PROFESSIONAL PILOT COURSE - FAA AND JAA
COMMERCIAL PILOT AIRPLANE SINGLE AND MULTI ENGINE LAND, INSTRUMENT AIRPLANE
FROZEN ATPL - JAA

Objective: To obtain FAA Private, Instrument, and Commercial Pilot Airplane Single-Engine, Multi-Engine Land, Instrument Airplane AND JAA PPL, IR, CPL single and multi, with a JAA frozen ATPL.



Duration: 8 to 12 Months (For a full-time student).



Prerequisites:

At least 18 years of age at the time of completion of Phase III.

FAA third class medical certificate AND JAA Class I certificate at the time of enrollment.

Read, write, speak and understand the English language.

Previous flying experience is not required, however, credits are available for prior flight experience.



Course Description:

Phase I - (Private Pilot)

Flight Instruction (dual)
30 hours
Cessna 152 $1350

Ground Instruction
35 hours
Classroom $1575

Briefing Time
8.75 hours
Before and after flight $393.75

Aircraft rental (training)
35 hours Cessna 152 (5 hours solo) $2345
FAA written exam 2.5 hours Onsite $90
FAA practical exam 3 hours Onsite $350
Aircraft rental (FAA practical) 2 hours Cessna 152 $134
Books and supplies -
Private training kit $250
Total this phase
$6487.75

Phase II - (Instrument Rating)

Flight Instruction (dual)
25 hours
Symphony 160 $1125

Simulator Instruction
10 hours
PCATD (Elite) $450
Ground Instruction
35 hours
Classroom $1575
Briefing Time 8.75 hours Before and after flight $393.75
Aircraft rental (training) 25 hours Symphony 160 $2225
Simulator rental (training) 10 hours PCATD (Elite) $350
FAA written exam 2.5 hours Onsite $90
FAA practical exam 3 hours Onsite $350
Aircraft rental (FAA practical) 2 hours Symphony 160 $178
Books and supplies - IR/Comm. training kit 300
Total this phase
$7036.75
Phase III - (Commercial Pilot - Airplane Single Engine Land)

Flight instruction (dual)
55 hours
C-152 and Piper Arrow $2475

Ground Instruction
30 hours
Classroom $1350

Briefing Time
8 hours
Before and after flight $360

Aircraft rental (training)
100 hours
Cessna 152 $6700

Aircraft rental (training)
20 hours
Piper Arrow (complex) $2060

FAA written exam 3 hours Onsite $90
FAA practical exam 3 hours Onsite $350
Aircraft rental (FAA practical) 2 hours Piper Arrow $206
Books and supplies - None $0
Total this phase $13,591
Phase IV - Multi Engine add on Commercial Pilot and IR
Flight instruction (dual)
15 hours
Duchess or Seneca $675

Ground Instruction
15 hours
Classroom $675

Briefing Time
3 hours
Before and after flight $135

Aircraft rental (training)
15 hours
Duchess or Seneca $2775

FAA written exam - Onsite $0
FAA practical exam 3 hours Onsite $350
Aircraft rental (FAA practical) 2 hours Duchess or Seneca $370
Books and supplies - None $50
Total this phase $5030
Phase V - JAA Conversions (PPL, IR, CPL SEL, MEL, ATPL theory)
JAA ATPL Theory
800 hours
Online - NAC $1870

JAA CPL Single Engine
10 hours
Off campus (1 week) $2300

JAA IR and ME add on
15 hours
Ireland $5900

UK FRTO (RT)
8 hours
One day process $150

Total this phase $10,220
TOTAL COST FOR TRACK C $42,365.5

OU_spu
12th Nov 2005, 00:05
Hi,

any experience and thoughts on this school would be most appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

www.americanschoolofaviation.com

KLX
21st May 2006, 17:27
Hello to everybody,
does anybody know the American School of Aviation in Atwater, California (ASA)?
They offer Training Courses for very competitive prices.
Are there any hidden costs, which are not obvious?
I would be interested if anybody had experience.
Thanks!
KLX

metro752
24th May 2006, 02:15
I'm an American and have never heard of them. Try ATPS http://www.a commercial site

scroggs
24th May 2006, 07:32
Well, I'm not American and I have heard of them. They have been mentioned here (http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=198064&highlight=American+School+of) before, but not too much information has been forthcoming. They have a very flashy website.

metro752 The website you link to is a commercial one, and has been removed from your post. We are very sensitive about people attempting to freeload on this site with adverts for their commercial enterprises. Unless it is absolutely obvious that a poster has no commercial connection with a site they link to, and the link is directly relevant to the thread in question, then links to commercial organisations or programmes will be removed.

Pprune exists without subscription simply because our advertisers (just about) cover our costs. We will not undermine them by allowing free advertising.

Scroggs

metro752
24th May 2006, 08:08
that's cool dude, I just copy and pasted the URL from the browser, but I totally understand :D

Left Wing
24th May 2006, 09:06
ASA is FAA CPL factory ripping off Indian students; there are plenty of such "schools" targeting the huge Indian aviation boom and hawking their services to Indians at very "low" cost to them.

Offering a FAA CPL in 4-5 mths :ugh: := :eek:

rhovsquared
1st Jun 2006, 16:56
First of all (I feel These things must be said). No school of no body really teaches you aviation. forget that nonsense find a good CFI who you trust and go through the ratings

last time I heard the FAA doen't require a degree OR Ground school. in aviation pick up lots of books learn to use an E-6B, a plotter, to read the sectional and Jeps,metars, checklists, AFM learn how to do a variety of perf calculations, read read read so much excellent material is out there, who is stopping you??? YOU CAN NOT WAIT UNIL SOMEONE TEACHES YOU ANYTHING...


. YOU TEACH YOURSELF 'GROUND SCHOOL' and how to FLY (under guidance of course;) ) Don't let inexperience foster excuses for incompetence.

do everything the 'hard way until you are so good (i.e W@B on your cherokee with 1/2 fuel and one pax) that it is a habit


even if you have GS it is wholly insuficient for the actual task at hand for all practical purposes get a regular college degree.


Aviation don't love you nor your school. stay alive with self aquired knowledge save money if possible and don't get drawn into hype and most importantly learn from the Ineveitable mistakes you will make AND KEEP LEARNING FOREVER!!! TO HELL WITH FANCY CORRUPT SCHOOLS
:)

rhovsquared

divinesoul
14th Oct 2006, 06:50
HI

Just want to know about the above said school.i have heard not so good things about this school.they have even entered into a tie-up with a low cost carrier in India to train their cadets.Me not looking to join them but many of my friends and other people i know are joining them.So just wanted to know from people who have gone there or know anything about this school.

No speculations please

thanx

iamanaussiemavrick
15th Oct 2006, 23:36
Hi,

I got a personal e-mail froma a guy who is doing it there.

He said to me to drop the idea of going therecoz they have got a lot of extra costs and also what they promise are not being delivered to the students.


i heard kingfisher is training there..

Hope this helped..

regards

maverick:ok:

jamess115
16th Oct 2006, 05:06
I would steer clear of this school. :=
They are cheaper than other schools in the bay area but not well organised. Previously, i had been given the run around by their admin dept for mths before i just gave up and concluded that they were doing fine and obviously didn't care about my business.

Billo
20th Feb 2007, 17:34
Hi
Does anybody now any information about American School of Aviation???
Are they approved by ICAO or JAA???

chrisbl
21st Feb 2007, 15:33
JAA - no as far as one can tell