tistisnot
6th Jan 2007, 20:33
It'll soon start again ... Monday 0700 with 20 fixed wing and 20 helis all trying to get away together. Poor pilot discipline, don't listen out, little consideration, just step on each other, bombard the tower so that they just freeze and shut up! Bad luck if you're waiting to take-off or land.
And why? They can afford new SUV's but won't buy the second radio for the ground frequency promised by NOTAM 1 April last year - who's the April fool?!
Instead we have to get flight plan and dispatch on the same frequency before later having to give all details prior to start up (do they not read the flight plan??) route, level, time en route, pax and fuel endurance. Meanwhile 747 still not cleared to land on 23 the main runway ... smaller craft use 25 just to make it fun!
There aren't even any SID's but endless repetition of the same drivel (hectic for new co-pilots!) - why not instigate a standard VFR dep for helis, even if it's too difficult for a modern international airport to produce SID's for large fee paying commercial traffic - at least then the landing traffic might hear its clearance.
It might also give the ATC staff a chance to breathe! and concentrate on an efficient flow of aircraft. And they may have a chance to issue ATC clearances instead of being bullied into answering admin details first!
Returning helis also have to reel off the full spiel on return as well ....
And another thing - Why oh why do Twin Otters and the like, having taken yonks to get there - with gazillions of feet of runway ahead of them, and with a queue of traffic behind them on the taxiway - painfully back track a measly 120 meters prior to taking off???? More frustration and heat in the cockpits following them ..... this is a real safety issue all round, so:
1. Provide a ground radio and operator and halve the calls on ATC
2. Produce SID's and standard heli VFR departures
3. Pilots please be more considerate - allow ATC time to issue instructions before jumping in, thinking only of self (though I do understand the immense frustration)
:ugh: :*
And why? They can afford new SUV's but won't buy the second radio for the ground frequency promised by NOTAM 1 April last year - who's the April fool?!
Instead we have to get flight plan and dispatch on the same frequency before later having to give all details prior to start up (do they not read the flight plan??) route, level, time en route, pax and fuel endurance. Meanwhile 747 still not cleared to land on 23 the main runway ... smaller craft use 25 just to make it fun!
There aren't even any SID's but endless repetition of the same drivel (hectic for new co-pilots!) - why not instigate a standard VFR dep for helis, even if it's too difficult for a modern international airport to produce SID's for large fee paying commercial traffic - at least then the landing traffic might hear its clearance.
It might also give the ATC staff a chance to breathe! and concentrate on an efficient flow of aircraft. And they may have a chance to issue ATC clearances instead of being bullied into answering admin details first!
Returning helis also have to reel off the full spiel on return as well ....
And another thing - Why oh why do Twin Otters and the like, having taken yonks to get there - with gazillions of feet of runway ahead of them, and with a queue of traffic behind them on the taxiway - painfully back track a measly 120 meters prior to taking off???? More frustration and heat in the cockpits following them ..... this is a real safety issue all round, so:
1. Provide a ground radio and operator and halve the calls on ATC
2. Produce SID's and standard heli VFR departures
3. Pilots please be more considerate - allow ATC time to issue instructions before jumping in, thinking only of self (though I do understand the immense frustration)
:ugh: :*