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speedbird268
24th Dec 2006, 12:06
The service was abismal, I lost something at reception and i asked them and he said in his spanish accent i dunno if its here. ME: do you not have a lost property He said: A what? ask him- (him being a chef/kitchen guy.

Now this same guy is driving the free shuttle bus i put my bag at the door of the van and walk to get my other. HE says "Come here put it in"

NOW we get to the airport and i get my bags out and he says

"Where's ma money"

ME "your what"

MA money me TIP

I should have said fkoff but they have my address so i didnt.

I mean i cant believe it

OH AND The lights in the room that you twist to come on, dont really turn on unless you spend 20 minutes playing with the switch.

I aint going there again.

HOGE
24th Dec 2006, 12:19
One of the joys of staying in different hotel/motel chains in the States is figuring out the operation of the various light switches, taps, (or faucets, as they amusingly call them), and air con.

Why do USA light switches go up for on anyway?

John Prescott
24th Dec 2006, 12:22
That could maybe have been easily allieviated had you taken the trouble to learn Spanish in school.

:mad:

t1t

Lon More
24th Dec 2006, 12:25
That could maybe have been easily allieviated had you taken the trouble to learn Spanish in school
Last time I was there English was the official language, even in Florida :}

Mr Lexx
24th Dec 2006, 12:30
That could maybe have been easily allieviated had you taken the trouble to learn Spanish in school.

:mad:

t1t

That would be difficult for many of us. Spanish only started to be offered to mainstream state schools in 1992....... two years too late for me for instance.

BenThere
24th Dec 2006, 12:53
That's how the system is supposed to work. You get poor or rude service and you take your business elsewhere. Your part, though, includes letting the hotel management know why.

Miami's worse. If you don't speak Spanish, you don't fit in.

I recommend Hawaii next time.

And though in the US tips are customary for the driver, they are not mandatory; and if a driver asked me to come over and load my bag, he would not receive a tip from me.

brickhistory
24th Dec 2006, 14:48
Sorry you had a crap experience.

Recommend you write a detailed letter to the corporate headquarters - include every detail you can - date, location, names (especially!) if you remember them - and send a copy to the hotel, to the Orlando Chamber of Commerce, and the Orlando Better Business Bureau (sp?). Tell them of your dreadful experience, your intention to never stay there and your intention of spreading that word to everyone you ever meet. As Orlando depends on tourism, you may get some satisfaction.

Or you may not and nothing will happen, but at least you took some action.

Merry Christmas to you and the rest of pprune!

matelot
24th Dec 2006, 15:04
... Why do USA light switches go up for on anyway?

Probably for the same reason that they do in aircraft?

Tolsti
24th Dec 2006, 15:10
Speedbird268??? does this mean you are actually a Nigel? and the company dared to put precious you in a hotel where you had to experience what the rest of us have to put up with??... Just tell Ops that you don't want to fly that route again.... I'm sure they'll have a solution for you...

Al Fakhem
24th Dec 2006, 15:11
USA: the land of tips and no service in return. I once had a waiter at the Sheraton in Manhattan challenge me for having added a $2.00 tip to the $15.- charged for the breakfast buffet. All he had done was fill my cup with coffee, so the $2.- tip worked out at something like the equivalent of an hourly rate of $120.-. He then went on to say he didn't get paid by the Sheraton and had to live off tips alone. In the end, I gave him such a f:mad: g in front of all the other guests that Sheraton gave me 5,000 points on their rewards program :ok:

Loose rivets
24th Dec 2006, 17:03
So, you take the trouble to learn perfect Spanish and then find yourself in the States.

Da-de Da-de DA-DA.

My lovely Hispanic neighbor got enthusiastic about something she was saying the other day, there were NO breaks in a twenty word sentence. She was speaking English!

I like American switches, they stick out and are willing to be moved...one way or the other. These daft ‘logic' ones that drifted into existence in the UK thirty years ago have to be targeted much more accurately.

As for the mains being better. Ug!!!!

Transformers up poles. Wires going to millions of homes suspended from poles to the sides of houses. Earth/Ground rods to nail the center tap to an approximate local ground. Voltage swings that have to be measured to be believed. Hot (as in heat) wires going to things. HOT PLUGS IN STUD WALLS....yes, in new homes too. Almost no RCDs in the mains box. 20a minimum breakers (usually) and metal....Oh, don't get me started on metal boxes and conduit. Especially ones with sharp edges. Frikkin ek, we saw the error in that a generation ago in the UK. Power cuts the norm. (Had 3 in 33years at home if you don't count Harold Wilson's madness)

Er, what was the thread about?

Tips? Tipping is an abhorrence and should be totally banned. Fishing about trying to find money (that I don't use for weeks on end these days. Oh, except giving money to folk out of the car window.) I just don't expect to have to give little presents to people when I'm paying to stay in an hotel. In the cases above, they would both have been SOL. No question. I got annoyed just reading about it.

I'm talking to an investor about a new concept of dining, in which the people are treated as they would be in my home. Just one of the changes would be that the financial side is all done on the Internet -- with no mention of cost during the visit.

The world seems to be run now on grabbing at every penny one can think of an excuse for. Pressure, pressure, pressure. Landlords beating down on businesses, until they have to screw their customers for breathing. There has to be a model somewhere that can show that this is all unnecessary.

Erm.........Merry Christmas.:}

Two's in
24th Dec 2006, 17:23
:) Here are some other clues for enjoying Orlando;

Hotel chains that have "Quality" in the name, never have it in the service.

The difference between a Hotel and a Motel is the time is takes for the rash to clear up.

Any store that has "Value" or "Mega" just hasn't learned to spell "disappointment" yet.

Withholding a tip or complaining is valid, but only once you have passed the point where bodily fluids can be added to your meal.

If your meal does not appear to have cheese on it, you simply aren't looking hard enough.

A shaven head and Manchester United shirt are the epitome of travel sophistication and sartorial elegance at all times.

"Discount Disney Tickets" is Spanish for "4 hour timeshare presentation".

"Includes free car rental" means you have just invested the equivalent of the Gross National Debt of Guatemala in rental insurance and upgrades.

Sickly pale white skin is particularly attractive on red-headed tourists.

Ponderosa is a chain of Bio-diversity Research Units run by the Center for Disease Control. It is a medical experiment, not a source of protein.

Driving on the the Right hand side for the first time ever is more easily accomplished after drinking a few beers, 9 hours on a transatlantic flight, and being in an automatic car for the first time.

A four way stop is simply a measure of testosterone. The more hesitation you display the bigger girl's blouse you are. Best to ignore them all together.

Blend in seamlessly with the locals by saying "sure", "why not", and "you betcha", at random moments throughout the conversation. Ignore the fact that they will be speaking Spanish.

All maids are called Consuela.

Never bother to get the Fastrack passes at a theme park. After spending 5,000 quid on a holiday you can soak up the ambiance far better by waiting 2 hours between every ride.

Always remark about why only teams from the USA play in the World Series. The locals will immediately recognize you as a sporting enthusiast brimming with knowledge and witty ripostes.

PanPanYourself
25th Dec 2006, 14:46
The whole tipping thing in the states really pisses me off. I went to college in the states, scraping by on pennies, and working my ass off to get an engineering degree. In the meantime, some of my friends were working part-time as bartenders or waitresses, and making upwards of $400 a night! An attractive female bartender friend of mine was making almost twice that!! I mean seriously, you're pouring drinks you dumb slut, you're not curing cancer. I'm not a us-citizen so I wasn't allowed to work, and besides I'm not an attractive female. I always tipped above and beyond the normal 18% because I didn't want anybody thinking (knowing) I was an asshole, but now I regret it, they're the assholes for expecting tips.

Crepello
25th Dec 2006, 17:00
You had multiple friends making $400+ a night, PanPan? Funny that, as I've several friends who tend bars, and none of them would clear a quarter of that for an evening's work.

If hoping to be compensated for their time and efforts makes them assholes (as you so eloquently put it), well... do you work for free?

brickhistory
25th Dec 2006, 17:07
You had multiple friends making $400+ a night, PanPan?


Sorry for Pan Pan's experience, but good on you for working your way through college. That takes some hard work and effort.

Regarding young, attractive women making lots of money in a bar....hmmmm, I'm shocked I tell you, shocked!

I've even been known to help a few of them with their scholarship funds myself.....................:E

Huck
25th Dec 2006, 17:08
Fawlty: (Speaking about overtime) "I pay you for an hour and a half, and you clear off after half an hour. That's socialism for you."

Terry: "No, that's the free market, ain't it?"

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh!
25th Dec 2006, 17:08
You had multiple friends making $400+ a night, PanPan? Funny that, as I've several friends who tend bars, and none of them would clear a quarter of that for an evening's work.that's because they all oogly :}

PanPanYourself
25th Dec 2006, 18:14
Funny that, as I've several friends who tend bars, and none of them would clear a quarter of that for an evening's work.
I believe Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh answered that one. Let me try and explain it for you, one of my friends worked at a somewhat classy martini bar, $10 for any of 101 different martini mixes. At peak times she would be making about 50 of these martinis per hour, with the standard tip rate of 18% thats $90 dollars per hour + her hourly wage, but of course shes hot and gets much more. You do the math. Of course she should get paid for her efforts, but over $100 an hour? Then complaining if someone gives a "measily" $1 tip, for what basically amounts to 72 seconds of work??

BenThere
25th Dec 2006, 19:30
I just read a factoid about Goldman Sachs investment banking profit for 2006, $9.7 billion. The firm would have made less money if they had printed 10,000 $20 bills per hour in their Manhattan building instead of moving much of the financial paper of the world.

Makes your martini waitress seem underpaid, doesn't it, PanPan?

Also read in the Economist this week that it's not really what we make that brings happiness, but what we make relative to what we see others making that counts.

We who have a roof over our heads, food to eat, and friends and family to enjoy are blessed. Reflect on that.

Happiness to all in this season of joy and for the new year.

PanPanYourself
25th Dec 2006, 19:38
We who have a roof over our heads, food to eat, and friends and family to enjoy are blessed. Reflect on that.
Good point Benthere, rant withdrawn.

Merry Christmas.

419
25th Dec 2006, 22:13
An attractive female bartender friend of mine was making almost twice that!! I mean seriously, you're pouring drinks you dumb slut

If you are happy to refer to your female friends as "dumb sluts", I am really amazed that you actually have any female friends.

speedbird268
25th Dec 2006, 23:04
That could maybe have been easily allieviated had you taken the trouble to learn Spanish in school.

:mad:

t1t
Are you for real, I can speak spanish but what has that got to do with having rude people who want to take your money.

Keygrip
26th Dec 2006, 03:00
Sorry - couldn't help but chuckle.

New revenue generating Google ads on the PPRuNe pages (which read the text of the page and look for suitable advertisements to offer) gave a link to "Orlando Hotels".

I followed the link and was offered the Quality Inn for $67.

Back to the post though. ANY American accommodation is "two double beds pointing at the tv and a small en-suite bathroom". Doesn't matter if you pay $30 for it or $300 for it - you still get two double beds pointing at the tv and a small en-suite bathroom.

The difference in price is for the difference in carpeting, wall covering and ............service.

If you pay, as I sometimes do myself, $67 (currently £33.50) to sleep a family of four then all you expect to get is a warm dark corner to sleep in.

If you pay $300 then you get a warm dark corner with a coffee machine in the room and a smiling receptionist downstairs.

I've found hotel accommodation in Kissimmee, for a family of four (two double beds pointing at the tv and a small en-suite bathroom) for $35 a night - including coffee machine (for one cup - go figure). Grotty carpets and concrete corridors to the rooms.

My benchmark has become internet connection, a power outlet to charge my cellphone overnight, and a tv channel showing "Stacey" discussing the "Top 7 things to do in DisneyWorld". Coffee machine is a bonus.

I've paid (in an emergency) a painful $187 for two double beds pointing at the tv and a small en-suite bathroom at a Disney hotel (Port Orleans, Riverside). Very plush carpets, beautiful pastel coloured painted walls with fine artwork hanging. Power outlet (too far from the bed - so required my [always carried] extension cord) to charge my cellphone, Stacey on tv (it WAS a Disney hotel) - but no coffee machine.

Internet was an extra $9 per 24 hours. Saving grace? Very close to the Hoop Dee Doo Revue - not much travelling after dinner.

Service was phenomenal - always is at the House of the Mouse.

con-pilot
26th Dec 2006, 05:03
Keygrip you have stated what should have been pointed out on the second post.

You get what you pay for.

If one does not pay much, don't expect much. In fact just go ahead and assume that you will receive bad tacky (rude) service when staying in a cheap hotel/motel. If one does not receive bad service you are pleasantly surprised.

Now, on the subject of tipping. Since I have been a member of Pprune (since 1999) this subject has come up, oh about a hundred times more or less. The funny thing is the people that do the most complaining about the US practice of tipping are the very first to raise hell about "Damn Yankees" not following the customs of countries they are visiting. I guess the rules change when talking about the United States.

I have flown corporate aircraft and US Government aircraft internationally for over 35 years. I have flown to countries that if you did not start handing out 5 or 10 US Dollar bills (or 20s or 100s) the minute you stepped off the aircraft it would take hours for your passengers, crew and airplane to clear customs. I have also flown into countries that just the mention of a gratuity would create serious problems.

The bottom line is; respect the rules, life styles and customs of the country you are a visitor in, no matter what the customs are in your country.

And yes, I have received tips in my life. Mostly when I was working my way through University, it really helped.

However, my largest tip was as a corporate pilot when I helped a passenger (a guest of the boss) avoid a very bad situation. It was $10,000.00. Trust me, I earned it and no I didn't kill anybody. However, I was not expecting a tip for doing my job; that being taking care of my passengers even when they are not in my airplane.

But hey, I'm not stupid. Someone sends me $10,000.00 for doing something for them that saved them a whole lot more money and trouble I'm taking the money. Besides that the guy could afford the money. Oh, the problem involved a teenage daughter and a very questionable morals (drugs) charge in a distant country south of the US. However, I played by their rules. I won, but not for the promise of a gratuity. It was my job.

(Oh, I got to see the money for about 2 seconds before Mrs. C-P spent it.)

speedbird268
26th Dec 2006, 15:38
Speedbird268??? does this mean you are actually a Nigel? and the company dared to put precious you in a hotel where you had to experience what the rest of us have to put up with??... Just tell Ops that you don't want to fly that route again.... I'm sure they'll have a solution for you...
EXCUSE ! ME ! So you like someone to treat you with disrespect and then go and ask you fo rmoney or is that the kind of thing you like to see others get.

I walked with my suitcase for 40 minutes down a road in florida i chat with homeless people and give some that dont ask me for money and who really need it.

Whereas now being in a dump called new york people dont give a crap about homeless people well at least the gucci ones

Tolsti
26th Dec 2006, 15:59
EXCUSE ! ME ! So you like someone to treat you with disrespect and then go and ask you fo rmoney or is that the kind of thing you like to see others get.

I walked with my suitcase for 40 minutes down a road in florida i chat with homeless people and give some that dont ask me for money and who really need it.

Whereas now being in a dump called new york people dont give a crap about homeless people well at least the gucci ones

Sorry... I retract the Speedbird bit.... your grasp of the English language quite obviously would prevent you working for an airline.

speedbird268
26th Dec 2006, 16:14
Sorry... I retract the Speedbird bit.... your grasp of the English language quite obviously would prevent you working for an airline.
Forget working for an airline you should be prevented from living with humans on this planet. I bet you are the type to just not give a crap about homeless people that are struggling. This world is not for the rich ones that push people to the side on the sidewalk but for the good folks such as doctors and the ones that help people.

Fortunately i did meet some nice americans who actually did agree wuith me about the place being full of nasty people.

And i have studied physcology but nothing prepares you for USA Especially around the upper class areas full of people who dont give a crap. Oh they do though if you are wearing GUCCI

When i go back to the usa i am staying around the quiet areas and not the up market place.

And im not talking about orlando, that was ok compared to New york though i did speak to some homeless people who continued to be polite after i gave them money.

HOW ABOUT THAT!!!

brickhistory
26th Dec 2006, 17:00
This world is not for the rich ones that push people to the side on the sidewalk but for the good folks such as doctors and the ones that help people.


Ah, youth...how refreshing!

speedbird, since I don't know your country of origin, I can't make the direct comparison, but you need to realize that the gulf between rich and poor is even greater and enforced more stringently in many other countries besides the good ol' USA. Try any South American country; try almost any Asian country; even Western Europe has a sharp divide on the practical level between the haves and have-nots. I've not been to Eastern Europe or Russia, but I bet it's the same.

We Americans have many faults, but it is interesting that you still came here for training/schooling. Must be something attractive for you.

And while there are many doctors who do work hard to take care of the world's poor, I'm fairly certain that many more went to medical school and put the subsequent effort afterwards to make a pretty penny or two. I can't and don't blame them.

speedbird268
26th Dec 2006, 17:08
Ah, youth...how refreshing!

speedbird, since I don't know your country of origin, I can't make the direct comparison, but you need to realize that the gulf between rich and poor is even greater and enforced more stringently in many other countries besides the good ol' USA. Try any South American country; try almost any Asian country; even Western Europe has a sharp divide on the practical level between the haves and have-nots. I've not been to Eastern Europe or Russia, but I bet it's the same.

We Americans have many faults, but it is interesting that you still came here for training/schooling. Must be something attractive for you.

And while there are many doctors who do work hard to take care of the world's poor, I'm fairly certain that many more went to medical school and put the subsequent effort afterwards to make a pretty penny or two. I can't and don't blame them.
I agree with you, When i worked at the airport i was speaking to a diplomat, he knew i wasnt rich but he had the time to speak to me and he was very friendly and i am sure he is rich.

It isnt that you are rich that makes someone horrible, it is more that the snobby people are like fly's around Merde and tend to mingle around good rich people.

In other words there are good and bad in all classes but the bulk of people who think they are better than others tend to hang around the rich places.

And i feel sorry for the rich good people who have to be around the snobbery people. I mean how do the good folk that have a lot of money feel like being around the PRADA FUR Queen of somewhere while on holiday.

Anyway i have someone i love and some friends From a country most people havent heard of. So i am happy Well when i get home anyways

But i am quite happy with this internet connection at the airport waiting for my flight:p

BenThere
26th Dec 2006, 18:35
You can learn to enjoy the snobbiness here, Speedbird. As a native, I tend not to notice it, so I appreciate your perspective.

When I want a dose of arrogance, spitefulness, and envy, I go to England. Like many Americans, I find it quaint.

Cheers,

Reach
26th Dec 2006, 18:52
...and right now thousands of Englishmen are risking their lives, far away from their families, supporting US operations in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Perhaps as a courtesy to them, you could re-think that last post.

Merry Christmas

Lon More
26th Dec 2006, 18:56
thousands of Englishmen
Not to mention Scottish, Welsh and N. Irish.

brickhistory
26th Dec 2006, 19:01
Not to mention Scottish, Welsh and N. Irish.

Ah, but BT only said he'd go to England for a dose of vitriol, not these places, so Reach's post was at least accurate regarding the nationality.

Not so much about 'supporting' US operations. Seems like the UK joined willingly. Whether they (or we) should have or not is for another thread.

Oh, and one wonders why it's ok for 'furriners' to have a go at the US, but we're rude if we reply in kind.

Reach
26th Dec 2006, 19:06
Yes the UK joined willingly...to support the US (I don't think we could argue the UK leads OIF and OEF could we?)

and yes its also rude for "furriners" to have a go at the US as well. I wish counter-attacks could be confined to the poster rather than his presumed country of origin (which as we all know may or may not be what he claims it to be).

brickhistory
26th Dec 2006, 19:08
I wish counter-attacks could be confined to the poster rather than his presumed country of origin (which as we all know may or may not be what he claims it to be).
Amen to that.

Two's in
26th Dec 2006, 20:49
Even after several years, I still regard myself as an honored guest of this country and an ambassador for the UK. That seems to keep things balanced reasonably well when discussing/debating the merits of either country. Life has very few absolutes, so I am always wary of opinions that are.

speedbird268
26th Dec 2006, 21:42
...and right now thousands of Englishmen are risking their lives, far away from their families, supporting US operations in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Perhaps as a courtesy to them, you could re-think that last post.

Merry Christmas
At what point did i say the local working people are snobs? I didn't. I spent my time in orlando and spoke to alot of people working class and i respect those such as the police,ambulance and fire. I have friends that are in the military in orlando.

It's not them i dislike it is the 10% of snobs that wear fur and gucci that give you dirty looks when you hold a door open for them or smile at them.

Why do you think i come to america. It is because i normally go to florida than a fashion capital like new york. And i liked the locals btw

speedbird268
26th Dec 2006, 21:44
Amen to that.
SO you all hate me for not liking people that are rude? what planet are you from?

I like nice people and that is all that counts in this life

brickhistory
26th Dec 2006, 21:57
SO you all hate me for not liking people that are rude? what planet are you from?



sb,

Are either related to Borat or one of his writers?

The posts in play deal with those who stereotype the poster based on his nationality vice the poster himself.

Huck
27th Dec 2006, 00:01
However, my largest tip was as a corporate pilot when I helped a passenger (a guest of the boss) avoid a very bad situation. It was $10,000.00.

A friend of mine was a single-pilot King Aire dude for a wealthy Chevy dealership owner in BHM.

One day the Wife of the Boss climbed aboard the aircraft and promptly found a lacy black bra on the bench seat.

The pilot quickly snatched it from her - "Sorry , ma'am, I brought my girlfriend in here to see the plane last night and I guess we got carried away...."

The boss made a big show - "Don't do that again!" - and the next day gave the pilot a tip of $1000. True story.....
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And i have studied physcology
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Priceless!

BenThere
27th Dec 2006, 00:26
Reach,

My poke was in no way intended toward the soldiers of Great Britain, who are fighting for all of us. I revere them.

I think, though, it should be made clear that British soldiers are fighting for Great Britain, not for the US, even though we are caught up in the same war.

I was just trying to stir it up a bit, hoping for a response. English arrogance, spitefulness, and envy are part of what makes you all lovable, and I wouldn't want you any other way. I neglected to mention the qualities with which you wouldn't take issue.

Truly, cheers,

Two's in
27th Dec 2006, 01:27
SO you all hate me for not liking people that are rude? what planet are you from?

Speedbird, rather than "hate" (such an emotive word), I would guess that most of us can barely contain our indifference to your plight. Life's characters are always able to see humor in their own misfortunes, rather than try to present it as some personal slight right up there with annexing the Sudetenland. You were cheap, it was crap, you walked. No further behavioural analysis required.

con-pilot
27th Dec 2006, 02:40
The boss made a big show - "Don't do that again!" - and the next day gave the pilot a tip of $1000. True story

I truly believe that Huck, I truly do.;)

The stories I could tell!

(Well actually I am telling the stories, I'm writing a book. Names changed of course to hide the guilty.:p Heck, if I'm published I might sell maybe 20-30 copies.)

Ovation
27th Dec 2006, 11:01
Quality Inn International Drive Orlando - I've found the best place to check out what's good and what's not is www.tripadvisor,com.

This place is rated as a ONE star hotel, but it seems that folks who've stayed there rate it better than that.
See this link for candid reviews by their guests:

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g34515-d88235-Reviews-Quality_Inn_International_Dr-Orlando_Florida.html
Tipping: it's a recognition of good service and never an obligation. I find it as insulting to be expected to tip for poor service as those who gave the poor service and are insulted (or simply act so) when nothing is offered.
Unless they know where you live, tell them why you are not tipping.
It's all a big act and anyway, and some other sucker will give them a big tip whether they deserve it or not, thus perpetuating this stupid and demeaning practice.

eastern wiseguy
27th Dec 2006, 11:12
British soldiers are fighting for Great Britain



UNITED KINGDOM ......bloody colonials......:hmm: :hmm: :ok:

Fulkrum
27th Dec 2006, 16:03
The Sleep Inn!!!!! LOL tried a few times to convince crew scheduling about sending us to another hotel, their transportation needs a lot improvement, their customer service by far one of the worst. It should be called "Can't Sleep Inn". Cheers!!!!!