Thomas Cook

[CabinCrewe]

ooft the spotters and flightradars are out in force tonight...:bored:

[cheesebag]

I'm on a 752 from BHX-BJV early August, better make the most of them.

[mart901]

Hi does anyone have an exact date for BHX 757's going and being replaced by A321's.

[LAX2000]

Anyone know if the premium seats get sold on the short haul flights operated by A330.

I'm booked to fly to Dalaman in September but on the seat plan rows 1 -7 show as premium cabin unavailable.

I realise no premium service is offered but seems a waste to leave the cabin empty.

[alasdair1]

Hi folks i am doing a private personal study on flights to and from bjv&dlm from ema,gla,edi,abz,ncl
Is their any way of finding out tcx's figures from individual flights as to the conbined charter in caa site

[pamann]

Private personal study? Why? Haven't you anything more productive to do? Like go to the gym... Some charity work? :8

[alasdair1]

Becouse im passionate about airtravel and turkish tourism its a pass time for me
I enjoy doing this study and very productive i am passionate about this and airlines esp thomas cook its enjoyable

Its only for my reserch and comparisons from year to year all the flights are logged in my fokder as are my flight logs from flights i fly on

[cheesebag]

Talking of Bodrum... Wife and kids stuck at BHX currently awaiting an inbound from PMI to take them out there. Currently a 5 hour delay although it landed in Palma more or less on time.

Any knowledge on this?

[DjerbaDevil]

According to AENA flight TCX4115 PMI-BHX departed PMI 7 minutes ago at 1515hrs.

[alasdair1]

Just heared on servisair frequency tcx8825 bjv-bfs g-tcdb 220+1
So g- tcdb has 220 seats folks

[Torque2]

All the A321's have 220 seats, Gtcdb is no different.

[alasdair1]

Ok i thought tcdb-tcdg were all 215 or did they change their minds caa.site.says 215 0n g- info
Willthe thomas cook a321 from tc scandinavia be reconfigured from 211 to 215 or 220?

[kieb92]

G-TCCA B763 operated into Cardiff yesterday due to a tech problem on the leased LY-VEN. Operated out to Palma and back.

[nsherrin15]

She could be on her way back down again, LY-VEN has gone tech again, was supposed to operate the 06:00 dep to NBE.

[alasdair1]

Does anyone know if tcx will be disp 767 for the airbus eventually either airbus a330 neo or a350?

is their any plan to go for the a321 neo options
Also have tc changed their mind on the 215 a321 configuration on the new a321
tcdb has 220 and tcdf and dz according to caa but does anyone know which are 220 and 215?
Also will the thomas cook scandinavia a321 be 220 on arrival to uk fleet?

[Bernoulli]

Alasdair, I can hardly bring myself to read your posts. The lack of normal punctuation and capitalisation makes it unpleasant to look at. Now I know that modern teaching is that stuff like that doesn't matter anymore and, perhaps, in today's classroom that's true. But out in the real world it matters a great deal.

Perhaps you'd care to try a little harder. It's as easy to get right as it is to get wrong.

Just a thought.

[alasdair1]

Dear Members,

Thank you for your the advice Bernoulli.

My questions are in relation to Thomas Cook Airlines fleet.

Firstly with regard to the new Airbus A321's,
In the current version of the Thomas Cook Inflight magazine it states that the Airbus A321's have 215/220 seats.

Do any of the members know which of these are 215 or 220 ?

I do however know that G-TCDB,G-TCDZ,G-NIKO,G-DHJH,G-OMYJ &G-TCDA have 220 seats.

Secondly;
Will the EX Thomas Cook Scandinavia A321's have 215/220 ?

Thirdly;

Will Thomas Cook be withdrawing their 767's for either the Airbus A330/NEO or A350'S ?

Forth point:

Which other 757's are due to leave in the next years and if it is possible which ones and aproximate dates ?

Final point :

Will Thomas Cook Airlines be making Glasgow an all Airbus base in 2016/2017 ?

I appreciate any help in these matters,
Regards
Alasdair Adam

[SFCC]

If you can explain why you want to know such esoteric information, I will answer most of your questions.

[Waldo1]

Bernoulli...ur grammers not the best either...best not be calling the pan black arse, mr pot!

[CabinCrewe]

...aaah yes the welcoming warmth of PPRUNE alive and kicking...:rolleyes:

[alasdair1]

Hi SFCC,
I require the information as I am passionate about tcx and also my private study most of all as a regular customer.
I am fully interested in the company and their fleet.

[pamann]

Will Thomas Cook Airlines be making Glasgow an all Airbus base in 2016/2017 ?

Chuck us a crystal ball will you. :E

[Waldo1]

Straight at ur head hopefully....

[pamann]

Bounce it back at'cha loser! :E

[Waldo1]

Teehee :))))

[LiamNCL]

Anyone know what date the A321s start at BHX ?

[Charlie98]

It'll probably be the first day of the summer schedule as Newcastle was.

I've also noticed Thomas Cook now have 7 A321s due, 4 ex Scandinavian and now 3 extra A321s fresh off the line, will that mean we will see more than the 4 expected 757s leaving this winter?

[Matt995]

I believe the last day for the 757's at BHX is December 2nd, with the A321's taking over from December 3rd, but as usual things may change!!!

[alasdair1]

Dear Members,

After sending an e-mail to Thomas Cook I found out some information about fleet plans.
The following was confirmed;

All Airbus A321-211-S have 220 seats these were re-piched for summer from 215 to now 220.

Thomas Cook confirmed that ;
G-FCLA,G-FCLJ,G-FCLK,G-JMCG are returning to lessors in the winter,
Due to 7 Airbus A321-211 4 from Thomas Cook Scandinavia,
and 3 from Airbus.

Kind Regards
Alasdair

[MKY661]

Thomas Cook confirmed that ;
G-FCLA,G-FCLJ,G-FCLK,G-JMCG are returning to lessors in the winter,

Also believe from Jethro and other sources that G-JMCD and G-JMCE were (supposed to be) leaving in Spring 2015 :)

I would imagine the last bases to have the 757 will be LGW & MAN, that's my guess :)

[alasdair1]

HI ,
Some crew tell me G-JMCD/E are going in march 2015
In the e-Mail I asked which other 752'S are leaving apart from GJMCE/D.
and was told about LA,LJ,LK,CG.

GLA base is likely to be the last base to go Airbus based
As 2015 is currently 752,

GLA will likely go Airbus in 2016 or later any update would be greatly received.

[LiamNCL]

I seen somewhere G-TCBB/C Were set to leave im guessing these are staying for now ?

Are any of these older A321s going to be retro fitted with sharklets like TK did with theirs ?

[MKY661]

Well there are 7 A321's due next Summer (4 second hand) and 1 A321 leaving, then I would say if they are all for replacements, LA, LJ, LK, CD, CE and CG will not be in the fleet in Summer 2015 and Then if there are more A321's due for 2016 then the other 4 will go then. I'm not sure if the Boeing 757-300 are supposed to be leaving or not.

[schooner]

2021 for the sausages now....

[SamYeager]

Thanks for the update alasdair1.

[alasdair1]

Dear Members,

Firstly I thank "SAM YEAGER" for the thank you for my update.

Secondly does anyone know the reason for the indefinate delay on TCX3452 from Glasgow-BOJ ?
The above was scheduled to leave at 1845 yesterday 05/09/14
G-JMCE landed around 1740 on 05/09/14 but is still at Gla.

Kind regards
Alasdair Adam

[MILEHIGHBOY]

The arrival BOJ-GLA is showing almost 18h late - estimated!

GLA-FUE was due to go at 0700 but still not departed - estimated 7 hour delay.

[alasdair1]

G-FCLI covered the GLA-BOJ & G-JMCG covered the FUE
leaves the DLM with a large delay ,

G-JMCE still on the deck from 1750 yesterday ?
Tech issues?

[alasdair1]

G-JMCE finally takes to the skies after 24 hours on the ground at Gla.

[alasdair1]

Dear Members,
I am currently trying to complete my flight records of Thomas Cook flights.
If any member can help with the registrations of the following it.will be greatly appreciated.

1.08/05/03 BHX-SKG 757-200 ?
2. 23/05/03 SKG-BHX 757-200 ?

3.29/06/03 TCX833K BHX-AYT 757-200 ?
4.07/07/03 TCX833L AYT-BHX 757-200 ?

5.21/10/03 TCX967L BJV-MAN 757-300?

Kind regards
Alasdair adam

[Charlie98]

Just to clarify are you asking for information from 2003? If so I heavily doubt anyone will be able to help you there :sad:

[DaveReidUK]

If so I heavily doubt anyone will be able to help you thereThe OP has nothing to lose by asking Thomas Cook to look up their tech records, which will contain the information he wants.

If they aren't willing to help, then I agree that it's unlikely anyone else will be able to.

[flyinthesky]

Pre 2007 MYT/TCX merger and greater than 10 years ago. Very much doubt that info even exists.

Not even sure why you would want it. Seems pointless to me but whatever floats your boat I guess.

[ImPlaneCrazy]

I think your only hope might be the following site - I would look it up for you, but it's quite a long time pressing the down key to get to 2003!! :}

SPOTTERS - SPecial Over The Top Email Request System (http://www.antonakis.co.uk/acars.php?page=request)

[d4ky]

Anyone know why tcx3306 glasgow to Corfu was diverted to athens?

It circled many times and attempted landing twice but then diverted?

A Thomson plane Gatwick to Corfu not so long after did the same thing but was eventually able to land without diverting this evening tom4556

[alasdair1]

Dear members,
Firstly can I say thank you to members "Im plane crazy,fly in the sky,dave reid uk &charlie 98
for their advice in this matter.
I require the information to complete my flight records as I do not have a flight log sheet for these flights.

D4KY welcome to the Thomas Cook on Pprune.
I was wondering the same last night.
I know it was G-FCLK 757-2YO but would love to find.out the reasons for the athens diversion i suspect it was to refuel but un sure.
You could try [email protected]
Kind regards
Alasdair adam

[Funderblaster]

Weather at Corfu was the problem. Not uncommon down there at this time of year.

[d4ky]

Thanks for the reply. The weather looked fine at the time but perhaps there was more severe ground weather that I did not have any data too.


The Thomson plane eventually landed after circling a while, but this was after the Thomas Cook had diverted an hour or so earlier

[alasdair1]

Dear members,
Do any of the members know of the reason for G-JMCE’S delay by 2hours tonight after arriving from funchal 10minuites early ?
It has now departed GLA for bodrum
It seems latley CE has had a lot of delays of late.
Alasdair adam

[alasdair1]

Dear members,
Does any one know the disposal dates of CD,CG,CE&LA,LK,LJ?
Also a new A321 to be delivered to Thomas cook scandinavia in nov (credit to jethros fleet lists)

Kind regards
Alasdair

[alasdair1]

Dear members ,
I have just seen G-TCDZ Airbus A321-211 leaving Bhx for BJV on Tcx4512.

Update on based aircraft currently at Glasgow are:
G-JMCD 757-25F
G-JMCE 757-25F
G-TCBB 757-236
Kind regards
Alasdair adam

[Jonty]

4.07/07/03 TCX833L AYT-BHX 757-200 ?

It was on G-FCLG

[alasdair1]

Dear jonty ,
Thank you for your help and assisance with my question it is greatly appreciated
Thanks again
Alasdair

[LiamNCL]

A321 G-TCDD now working for Thomas Cook Scandinavia for the winter

[EGAC is Better]

A321 G-TCDD now working for Thomas Cook Scandinavia for the winter

FR24 shows it operating out of then back to the Canaries today. Flight time well over 6 hours on the way back down. Can't fail to be impressed by how much the A321 has improved over the years and it still more to come when the NEO begins flying.

[LiamNCL]

Is it based in Las Palmas ? I read thats where it is based ? I flew on G-TCDE NCL-SSH / SSH-NCL Last week and have to say the A321 is a really impressive aircraft ,Massive improvement on my last TCX trip 2 year ago on FCLK

[alasdair1]

Hi Liam NCL &EGAC is better,
TCDD is LPA based for winter only on lease to Thomas Cook Scandinavia.

Liam did you enjoy the new A321legroom compared to 752?

only four 752's left next summer at present this may change but the four remaining will be:
LI,BB,BC,AN
Three of those based at Gla in summer.
OY-VKA will become G-TCDY
OY-VKB to become G-TCDW
OY-VKE to become G-TCDX
OY-VKT to become G-TCDV
(credit to jethros)

OY-TCD MSN 6314 to be delivered next month to replace a VKG A320
Kind regards
Alasdair adam

[alasdair1]

Hi EGAC is best and all,
The A321 was the most cost effective when the decision was made.
I agree the A321 is impressive more now with new technology and.sharklettes,these make the aircraft more aerodynamic and exta fuel burn savings.

I personally love the A321 interiors are spacious compared to the 752.
When the A321NEO comes along I Hope TCX will go for that as it will save more fuel and lighter it also can carry a max of 240 pax and new options for an overwing exit.
Tc are staying ahead of toms 738 .

For long haul I hope they choose either.the A330-800/900 or A330 NEO as its other name.
My other preference would be the A350.

It sounds like im planning their fleet how id love that job but its only my personal choices.
Kind regars
Alasdair adam

[LiamNCL]

Yes loved the new interior / seating & that fresh aircraft feel like how the windows are scratch free , Much better than the dated FCLK i was last on ! All in all i loved my two trips ive always flew with TCX on my holidays ! I wouldnt mind seeing some of the incomming A321s from Scandinavia being retrofitted with sharklets if im honest

[alasdair1]

Liam& all
Glad you enjoyed i havent been on any of the new A321's wish glasgow could hurry and get them.
I hear great comments Tc did config them to 215 but then decided to do 220 in stead.
Thair are three new sharkletted a/c comming in during winter along with the VKG ones Ithink these will be BHX based along with an A320, but hopefully the A321's will be rotated round the bases.

Nice to see freindly members on this forum and I feel glad to be part of this group as like all of you I am passionate about TCx and its other airlines.in the tc group.

Kind regards
Alasdair adam

[MKY661]

only four 752's left next summer at present this may change but the four remaining will be:
LI,BB,BC,AN

I would imagine the other one is MAN based? :)

[Funderblaster]

Correct, Boeing wise at MAN, 3 x B763 & 1 x B752

[alasdair1]

Dear Funderblaster &all,

Thank you for the update on tc's 763,752.
I assume that LGW will be A330,A321,leased A320& 753 in summer.
BHX is i hear 3xA321 &1leased A320.
GLA 3X 752 &A330.

I assume that Gla is going Airbus in 2016 ?
does anyone have the 752 dates of leaving the fleet?

kind regards
Alasdair adam

[MKY661]

I assume that Gla is going Airbus in 2016 ?
does anyone have the 752 dates of leaving the fleet?

Well since 6 will be gone by S15 I would Imagine the other 4 will be gone Winter 15/16 :)

[CabinCrewe]

can anyone tell me how many tyre changes all of the tcx fleet has had, what the seat covers are on the a321 fleet and what will the livery be like in 2018 ? :rolleyes:

[alasdair1]

Dear all,

TCDD flew directly above my home this evening fron oulu to BFS where it is currently.
What will happen to the 757-300's and 767-300's now TCX are going Airbus?
Kind regards
Alasdair adam

[BFS BHD]

TCDD will be on its way to Tenerife soon as VKG7381. Think its at BFS for more fuel not to sure. :)

[Mr Angry from Purley]

G-FCLD in it's new scheme /airline

https://www.flickr.com/photos/plane_spotting_freak/15520694966/

[mart901]

I'm due to fly on a 752 ex BHX next week and back the following, just wondering have all the 752's had a bit of cabin refresh, I believe JMCG,FCLI had seats refitted, have the rest had same treatment and what if anything else was done to them?


cheers ��

[alasdair1]

Dear Mart901,BFS BHD &All ,

Mart901- all 752 have had the new seats with a blue wave on them thats the only real change and a sunny heart tail on the old livery i think TCBB is at BHX just now.
The 752 has the same seat pitch as before, where are you flying too?

Thanks BFS-BHD for your update on TCDD.
The A321's have come along way with the over 6hour flights to tfs all be it with a fuel stop from oulu she will hopefully fly over my house on her way home in the morning .

Im sure all of us wish G-FCLD well on her new opperator and new life as a freighter.

Kind regards
Alasdair adam

[EK77WNCL]

To answer your question, 767's are off to Condor imminently and the 753's I believe are staying until 2020's (2022 rings a bell)

[mart901]

Thanks Alasdair for the prompt response - Bodrum to answer your question and we paid for extra legroom seats, 4 hrs is horrendous otherwise! I have flown on ex MYT A320 previously and it doesn't seem half as cramped. Looking forward to seeing the new A321's, really glad BHX is seeing some growth out of it.

[alasdair1]

Dear Mart901,EK77WNCL&All,
Mart 901:- no worries I was glad to help you.
I hope that you enjoy the bodrum area,which resort are you staying in?
I usually stay at the Irme Hotel in turgutreis when i fly to Bjv.
Bjv from BHX will be twice weekly next year A321&A320 .

EK77WNCL:-thanks for the information and your reply to my question.

At Gla I would personally like to see the 753 back as the 752's fill up so fast now they are at Lgw I would feel that would warrant the 753.
are their any plans for it to return especially on bjv,dlm& nbe as these are Tcx's most popular routes and Nbe increasing same as dlm in frequency in summer 15.

I see the A330 is to opperate GLA-AYT on a weds morning.
Is this the A330-200 or A330-300 as both are planned in the lh book ?
The rows start at row 8 premuim is blocked off so are the rear cabin middle rows anyone know why this is?
Id say this is in responce to The poularity for turkey routes from Gla.
Kind regards.

Alasdair adam

[samj]

The 763's will be returning to MAN for S15 I presume?

[flying officer kite]

The 767 should be back in MAN next summer. I'm booked to fly MAN-PMI, and the seat map is for the 763

[mart901]

Hi Alasdair, staying in WOW resort, Gumbet. TCX always good for me, despite all the complaints people make always get good service.
Glad to see more a/c at BHX base next year, amongst others - time for a fight back.

[alasdair1]

Hi mart,
Glad you enjoy tcx and services,
Did you travel on BC today to BJV?
if so was it full as i do a case study on this airport and try to collect figures.
The hotel looks amazing.
Enjoy
Kind regards
Alasdair adam

[alasdair1]

Hi all,
Is anyone aware of any issues in FNC today?
I ask this due to the above flying now between LPA-FNC it left 10hrs ago from Gla and now just reaching FNC.
A/C is G-JMCE 757-25F was due into GLA at 1740 Now delayed indefinately also was due to leave for BJV at 1855
Also delayed indef anyone know the reasons?

kind regards
Alasdair adam

[mart901]

Was fully booked, today yes. Some pax no shows though.

[alasdair1]

Dear mart901,
glad it was full .
I dont know why charter has no shows tho sounds strange to me.
I find that tho too as our return flight was booked to 235 both ways and only 230+2 showed and on return 230+2showed but tc had it down as 235 when i asked them for my may trip to BJV
And in oct i was told it was 187pax gla-dlm but it was 185+2 the return was booked to 235 and only 231+1 showed gla-dlm

I hand the flighdeck a logsheet and they fill in for me it was designed by a captain and is handy to track my flights .

[Big Tudor]

Is anyone aware of any issues in FNC today?
Adverse weather in FNC today. Strong winds & wind shear. TCX not the only ones to finish the day in the Canaries.

[EK77WNCL]

I understood that the 767's were going permanently to DE. Ah well, good to see them back next year haha, even if they never touch the NE.

[TOM100]

I suspect the crew were out of hours to leave fnc rather than anything to do with the weather.......

[BFS Dude]

When does Winter 2015/16 flights go on sale for Thomas Cook? Thanks!

[Travel Agent]

Some long haul holidays such as Cuba are already on sale, not sure when flight only or the rest of destinations are due to launch though.

[BFS Dude]

Thanks Travel Agent guess it will be soon! :)

[EK77WNCL]

Probably beginning of next year I think, some time between January and March they should be finalised

[ericlday]

Good god we are not into 2015 and questions asked about 2016 !

[EK77WNCL]

I'm also trying to think back how many times that question has already been asked/answered

[Flying.Penguin]

Maybe we should have a thread titled "Alasdair1's questions". :p

[TSR2]

The report says the problem was due to an 'overwing slide unit' becoming detached.

[Charley B]

Well done Titan again :)

[LAX_LHR]

Seems Thomas Cook is to introduce LGW-RNO (Reno, Nevada).


Given LGW lost most of its TCX long haul, and that TCX were supposedly going to focus on long haul from Manchester (with Condor doing the same at FRA), its a bit of an out-of-the-box route.

[adfly]

Unless that is their plan of action for LGW, out of the box routes not served by TOM/BA/VS/DU, as opposed to the 'main' more popular routes they focus on from MAN. It could work well for them if there is enough demand for these kinds of route to be profitable.

[Funderblaster]

A winter route for the skiing mob !

Also gaining an additional A330 next summer :ok:

[MANFOD]

Quote: "Also gaining an additional A330 next summer"

Are you saying LGW will have an extra A330 or TCX will?

[Funderblaster]

TCX will, for the new route plus an increase in frequency for a few others and some standby cover ! :ok:

[MANFOD]

So how many A330s will TCX have next summer and where will they be based?
Like LAX LHR, I thought most of the A330 ops were to be at MAN.

[Funderblaster]

5 at MAN, 1 at LGW and 1 shared between STN & GLA I believe.

[macdo]

that and some more good news coming soon.

[LAX_LHR]

Apparently getting their hands on an ex-Avianca A330. Wonder if the 2 monarch A330's will find homes again, or perhaps end up in the scrappers? After all, that was the fate that met an ex-BMI A330.


I wonder if they have any plans to release the MAN-LAX flights, especially as seen as MAN to Boston and Los Angeles were appearing on radio adverts.

[kieb92]

Thomas Cook Manchester Expansion

Looking at Thomas Cook schedules it appears they are expanding short haul operations from MAN next summer. Haven't looked at other bases yet.

- Lanzarote 3-4 weekly - New Tuesday
- Antalya 4-7 weekly - New Tuesday/Wed/Fri
- Hurghada 2-3 weekly - New Saturday
- Larnaca 2-4 weekly - New Monday/Fri
- Enfidha/Monastir 6 weekly
- Sharm el Sheik 2-4 weekly - New Monday/Sat
- Palma Daily - Some Condor although most MAN based A/C
- Santorini 1-2 weekly - New Saturday
- Mahon 3-5 weekly
- Skiathos 1-2 weekly - New Friday
- Corfu 2-3 weekly - New Sunday
- Varna 1 weekly NEW
- Faro 1 weekly NEW

Plus all the new long haul increases to Cancun/Orlando/Las Vegas and new JFK/Miami.

- Reno for LGW for winter 2015/2016

They are also leasing 5 A320 rather than the 3 they had this year presumably from Smartlynx/Avion Express
- 1 at BHX and 1 at MAN

[gilesdavies]

Please forgive me if this has already been discussed, as I only dip in and out of the TCX forum, but can anyone quickly explain the basis of all the major expansion by the airline from Manchester?

The new routes being announced or increased frequencies, are these already operating at a similar frequency from Gatwick?

I am just a little confused, because I would have thought the airline would want to operate the same routes from a base in the south of England too, to provide access to passengers from both parts of the country to these destinations.

There might be slight variations, but I have always noticed in the past holiday airlines operate almost identical bases from both Gatwick and Manchester, to provide a main gateway airport to all destination in both the North and South of England. This is especially applicable on niche routes where smaller regional UK airports cannot support a route to a small island or lessor known tourist destination.

[mart901]

What length of lease for the A320's anyone know? I'm guessing that will determine the paint job!

[macdo]

It is evidence of Thomas Cook Airlines attempting to establish itself as an autonomous airline using MAN as a hub, rather than being just the transport dept. for the tour operator.

[alasdair1]

Hi
In regard to the A320 question these will be on a 6/7month lease from smartlynx ,avion etc.

[Funderblaster]

Indeed they will !

[CabinCrewe]

Im not sure im seeing evidence of an autonomous airline any more than previously- all the new routes are tied to Thomas Cook Holidays, lots of the long haul routes are cruise orientated or holiday citybreak marketed with any left overs sold as seat only. Reno for example is not exactly an tour operator unlinked scheduled operation.

[MKY661]

Wonder if the 2 monarch A330's will find homes again

I'm not sure if it's true but I think they will come to TCX.

[flyhigh757]

Good afternoon everyone!

I just read that Condor will receive an additional B767 from Jetairfly (their last remaining one) and up to 4 new A321 until June 15'. Is that true?
Does anyone how many Airbus will be delivered to Thomas Cook next year?


Condor Newsroom - Condor auf Wachstumskurs: Zusätzliches Langstreckenflugzeug im Sommer (http://www.condor.com/de/unternehmen/condor-newsroom/presseinfos/pressemitteilungen/einzelansicht/2014/11/11/condor-auf-wachstumskurs-zusaetzliches-langstreckenflugzeug-im-sommer.jsp?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_term=information&utm_content=link&utm_campaign=newsroom)
German only-sorry

regards
flyhigh

[kieb92]

Thomas Cook Gatwick Expansion

Further to my previous post, looking at Thomas Cook schedules it appears they are also expanding short haul operations from LGW next summer. The below flights are not loaded yet but the increases are there from the timetable. Looks like a matter of time before times will be added:

- Sunday (New Palma and Sharm el Sheik)
- Monday (New Burgas)
- Tuesday (New Sharm el Sheik and Enfidha)
- Wednesday (New Palma and Corfu)
- Thursday (New Kefalonia)
- Friday (New Skiathos and Ibiza)
- Saturday (New Hurghada and Menorca)

Other changes, Saturday Rhodes to be operated by Germania and already loaded are the new Mytilene flights to replace Monarch charter.

Will continue with other bases.

[HH6702]

Hoping there's more for NCL?

[EK77WNCL]

Our Hurghada, Santorini and Varna have already been announced

[macdo]

CabinCrewe

A fair observation. But the establishment of TCX as an 'almost' stand alone organisation, like Condor, is the stated aim of Mr. Debus and his colleagues.

[lurkio]

Looking back wasn't it the aim of a past MD of MYT (a looong way back) to run MYT as an independent airline? However, when the subject was brought up at board level he was told to clear his desk.

[VickersVicount]

...and saw what happened when they attempted pure airline work with My Travel Lite...

[DooblerChina]

It's risky, but at least there's a plan which I don't think existed for years at TCX

[kieb92]

Thomas Cook Other Bases Expansion

Not too much expansion from other bases. Of note are posted below and some are again loaded into the timetable but not on sale yet:

Birmingham:

Sunday - Palma
Tuesday - Menorca
Wednesday - Palma and Sharm el Sheik
Thursday - Almeria
Saturday - Ibiza

(The above are listed in the BHX timetable)

[mart901]

If you read this article through it details new routes and increased frequency from BHX;


Thomas Cook to expand and renew fleet at Birmingham Airport - Birmingham Post (http://www.birminghampost.co.uk/business/business-news/thomas-cook-expand-renew-fleet-7421679)

[macdo]

Lurkio
Frank was never a man to lead an independent airline. "There's no money to be made in longhaul" was another old chestnut.

I can't foresee the future, but at least there is one at the mo.

VickersViscount
there are a fair few people who think MyLite was a a massive opportunity lost by short sighted management. Cost per seat mile was about the lowest in the industry, Load factors were good, location was good. Support and direction was useless.

[deepknight]

It was a great idea at the time, but MyTravel Lite was scuppered by the fact the company was already on the slide towards bankruptcy, only just prevented by the bail-out. There were plans, but no money left to achieve them.

[macdo]

Yes, all part of the mix.
its a shame really, MyLite could have been what Jet2 has become, only with decent pay. Well, that was then...
Now where's that pretty new 330 to fly!

[Cargocat]

I don't think he was talking about Frank. FP was happy running the cruise side before he was moved to the airline. It was the previous MD who's previous experience was in logistics.

He wasn't told to clear his desk because of the idea of a standalone airline. It was due to other factors he was let go.

[rob39]

Anyone know what G-NIKO went tech for. Saw it load at ACE then nothing. 2 hours later we loaded to GLA and it was still on the apron. Noticed on FLR it headed back to EMA today at 10:25

[macdo]

Ha, yes a certain Mr TB, you are probably right insofar as they had any viable plans at all.Or were you referring to Mr DB of a certain Scandinavian sounding haulage contractor? For all my cynicism and having seen much muppetry over the years, the current mob do seem to have a very progressive plan for the group of TC airlines, it represents a significant departure from the usual tripe that we have been served up since Crossland left. Finger crossed eh?

[Artie Fufkin]

Harriet quits, share price drops 22%. (http://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/nov/26/thomas-cook-chief-harriet-green-shock-departure) Ouch.

[Smokie]

I cannot believe that no one has mentioned this already?
Was she pushed or was she shuved ?
A real shame as I thought she was doing a great job so far.

Unless of course I missed earlier posts that have now been moderated?
Public knowledge now anyway, all over todays press and BBC and SKY.
I shall wait and see if this "disappears" later :(

[Deeply Concerned]

And you're point is exactly what?

[A4]

The point is that the CEO of one of the worlds largest IT Operators, who has been lauded for rescuing it from the brink of bankruptcy, has very suddenly and unexpectedly left the company. Yesterday it was with immediate effect, today (via RNS) she will step down on 31st Dec. The whole announcement has been poorly managed - £400m/20% of the value of the company as a result.

The new CEO (former COO) has been at TC for 13 years - so was there the last time it nearly went bankrupt......the financial press is full of speculation. Of course the main question for us drivers is what effect, if any, will it have on us?

[barry lloyd]

And you're point is exactly what?

Well if you read it literally, someone called Thomas has cooked someone called Harriet Green. It took me a few minutes to work out what the OP was trying to say.

The post will disappear - probably to Airlines Airports & Routes, where it belongs.

[yeoman]

Where it belongs? A major UK operator acts in a way that asks some serious questions and makes it into any number of news feeds as well as TV news and it doesn't belong in Rumours and NEWS?:rolleyes:

[Smokie]

Being a share holder, I have a vested interest.
I'm just very surprised that nobody has mentioned it until my post.
I sincerely hope that the new CEO doesn't adopt the "Manny" style of management that got TCX into trouble in the first place.

[Andy_S]

Where it belongs? A major UK operator acts in a way that asks some serious questions and makes it into any number of news feeds as well as TV news and it doesn't belong in Rumours and NEWS?:rolleyes:

No it doesn't.

It's a business story, not an aviation story. Harriet Green is not a pilot or an aviation professional, and there's no suggestion at all that her departure from Thomas Cook is aviation related. Furthermore, it looks like the OP was after a bit of a gossip rather than presenting anything in the way of rumours or news.

The story belongs in the city pages of the newspapers rather than the R&N section of PPRuNe.

[Brian Fantana]

Well if you read it literally, someone called Thomas has cooked someone called Harriet Green.

Spit roasted by TCX or "poached" by another company ??

[Jonty]

Spit Roast Harriet Green!!!! :eek:

[Capetonian]

One of the reports I read stated that she is taking 6 months' 'gardening leave'. That is generally a euphemism for 'she woz pushed'. With some inside industry knowledge, I heard that although she was successful in some areas, her people management skills were somewhat deficient.
Thomas Cook bosses have refuted suggestions that chief executive Harriet Green was pushed out following her unexpected departure from the travel giant (http://www.travelweekly.co.uk/Articles/2014/11/26/51257/green+quits+thomas+cook.html) today.They would, of course.
She will formally leave the company on June 30, after going on gardening leave from January 1.

[lederhosen]

The boss of a major airline group with over 70 aircraft leaving at such short notice is certainly big news, particularly given the troubles prior to her arrival and across the industry as a whole.

Speculation as to did she jump or was she pushed and why the news was communicated in a way that resulted in the share price dropping 20 percent are of keen interest to a lot of the professionals on this site.

The rapid management turnover at a lot of charter airlines (over 2 years and you are a veteran) suggests times are extremely hard. The well published difficulties of big players like Monarch and Air Berlin further underline this impression.

[Basil]

My tuppenceworth?
It says PP on the tin. The company employs several hundred professional pilots.
Ergo, it's important enough to appear, at least initially, on this page.

[barry lloyd]

My tuppenceworth?
It says PP on the tin. The company employs several hundred professional pilots.
Ergo, it's important enough to appear, at least initially, on this page.

Fair comment Basil, but it also employs (some very good) engineers and cabin crew, to say nothing of its use of ATC, airports and ground handling facilities. Oh! And almost forgot the SLF. It's not just about pilots y'know! :)

Clearly the sudden departure of someone so senior in the business is important, but no-one is (or should be) bigger than the business. Total recently lost its CEO in a plane crash, but apart from a knee-jerk reaction from the stock market, little has changed within the company.

[Basil]

It's not just about pilots y'know!
Sorry, no intention whatsoever to suggest that it is :ok:

[alasdair1]

Dear all,

Thomas cook will add an extra orlando flight per week from summer 15,
Las vagas starts 04/05/15
Holguin cuba starts 29/12/15
Varadero cuba starts 08/01/16

kind regards
Alasdair adam

[crackling jet]

Posting on the CWL page by 'letsfly Cardiff' re TCX doing L/H out of CWL next summer, is this a one off ?

[macdo]

28th Aug return 11th Sept. is the only rotation I can find on sale, good price to for peak Orlando. TCX usually has one or two flights going through CWL, sometimes originating from another base.

[Letsflycwl]

Cheers for that, be interesting to see if CWL gets some more long haul flying with TCX soon, a weekly MCO would be great !!

[alasdair1]

Hi all,
Are thomas cook still using swissport at glasgow?

[alasdair1]

Dear members,

OY-VKB is currently at manchester prior to being re-reged to Thomas Cook uk as G-TCDW
(Source Jethros uk fleet listings)

does anyone know where OY-VKG A330-343 will be going to after it is replaced by a A321?
also anyone know if Thomas cook will replace the two Airbus A320's that are now wfu?
kind regards
Alasdair adam

[alasdair1]

Dear Members,

G-TCDW has been delivered and in a hybrid livery
G-TCDX currently being re-registered

Kind regards
Alasdair adam

[dgutte]

Hi. A colleague of mine is due to fly on TCX to Cancun from Manchester on 18th January, flying in one of the premium cabins. She has received notice that her flight is no longer offering this service, I assume due to having to charter in a 3rd party aircraft.

Can anyone give me an idea of the re-arrange aircraft/airline?

[beardy]

It is likely to be a TCAS A330 (Scandinavian Thomas Cook) on loan, which is not the same layout but will be operated by the usually excellent UK crew.

[LAX_LHR]

There do seem to be a few sub-charters in January, presumably to cover cabin returns.


Some customers are being told Norwegian B787, but, I was under that fleet was already stretched, and, the seat plans for some flights show a 52 row cabin, in a 2-3-2 premium and 2-4-2 economy.

[janeyTA]

Some customers are being told Norwegian B787, but, I was under that fleet was already stretched, and, the seat plans for some flights show a 52 row cabin, in a 2-3-2 premium and 2-4-2 economy.

The seat plan is a TCS A330-300. Overhead screens and 29" seat pitch. It's covering for a month during while the second A330 is off for refurbishment.

[SCANDIC]

Anybody know where FCLJ is flying to, took off from Istanbul about 20 mins ago.

[ImPlaneCrazy]

I've just seen it land at LGW and the routing indicates it's come from Tehran, Iran.

I'd take a guess at the kind of flight it's operating but I wouldn't want the men in black suits at the door :oh:

[SCANDIC]

How come it's come back to the uk

[beardy]

Maybe your flight tracker isn't being totally honest with you!

[commander208]

Hi

Would appreciate some information from anyone in the know regarding T.C.'s part cancellation policy.

Basic situation is that flights (only) were booked in September 2014 for 4 adults flying GLA - FUE and return next month. Medical issues now mean that 2 of the adults are having to pull out and I'm wondering how best to handle any notification to T.C. re the matter. Their booking confirmation states that:-

"thomascookairlines.com does not allow part cancellations of passengers, dates, times or routes of any flight."

I fully understand that the flight costs are 100% non-refundable and the 2 adults who are not travelling will hopefully be able to claim on their insurance policy but how does T.C. treat the other 2 passengers who are still intending to travel?

Does the entire booking have to be cancelled (with no refunds for anybody) and then re-booked only in the name of the travelling passengers thus incurring another set of flight fees. Or is it simpler (and cheaper) just to advise of the non-travelling pair when we check in at the airport.

Thanks for any information.

[dgutte]

Thanks guys for the replies, very helpful.

[dgutte]

Scandic: that aircraft flew IST - Manchester I believe.

[SCANDIC]

It's just weird because when aircraft leave you never see them again but to come back is a surprise.

[alasdair1]

Dear Members,


G-TCDW Is in the Thomas Cook.com livery with sunny heart tail

is it only a temporary livery ?

kind regards
Alasdair Adam

[MKY661]

G-TCDW Is in the Thomas Cook.com livery with sunny heart tail

is it only a temporary livery ?

kind regards
Alasdair Adam

All TCX aircraft which have not been painted into the new colours are like this at the moment, but all will be painted by the end of 2016 :)

[alasdair1]

Thank you MKY661
For your help on with regards to G-TCDW


Kind regards
Alasdair adam

[alasdair1]

Hi
will G-MLJL be refurbished?

does anyone know which of the A330'S are due to be refurbished inside and painted in the sunny heart this winter ?

also anyone know which 752 has 233 pax im assuming its G-WJAN
and the A330 NEW configs for summer 15?

[MKY661]

Yes it will be on Maintenence shortly:
Thomas Cook Airlines Fleet List (http://jethros.org.uk/fleets/fleet_listings/thomas_cook_airlines_uk.htm)

G-MDBD will also be painted in April. Keep an eye on the New Thomas Cook Livery thread for that :)

[alasdair1]

Thanks to MKY661

thanks for your assistance once again cant wait till they arrive in the new livery

IS G-WJAN A 233 pax config ?

[kieb92]

G-MLJL departed MAN this morning as TCX32M to Kuala Lumpur - presumably for maintenance and painting?

[macdo]

Heavy Maintenance and internal refit.

[SCANDIC]

Where abouts is FCLJ next owner and who is going to be JMCE next owner.

[alasdair1]

Dear members,

which livery is G-TCDX in?

I see on jethros their are 2x A321-211-S will their be anymore in 2016?

will the TCW fleet have A321'S to replace the A320'S LEAVING ?

[Cloud1]

Does anyone know why the TCX4125 FUE-BHX has diverted to Lisbon?

[Funderblaster]

An unwell passenger

[brian_dromey]

What's the current state of play with the TCX fleet, the website is a bit confusing. In parts the 'new' A330 cabin has blue/navy accents, in others yellow and black. It looks like TCX and Condor relaunched their interiors and a few months later the whole group rebranded to the 'sunny heart'?

I'm flying on an A321 to Lleida-Alguaire in March, which should be different! Jethro's is not exactly clear on whats been delivered and whats on order, but it appears TCX have aircraft from a variety of sources, presumably they are all in the usual charter layout?

[alasdair1]

Dear all members,
When G-MLJL returns to service will it be in the new sunny heart livery?

also I notice that the A330 seating plans from glasgow start at row 8 will they not opperate the 49 seats on all flights as the USA flights dont use the front eaither same with AYT .

I know from TCX’s video on the refurbishnent it shows273 Economy seats and 49 premium im assuming that only the 273seats will be used and.not the full 322
can any one help?

Kind Regards
Alasdair Adam

[jethro15]

Jethro's is not exactly clear on whats been delivered and whats on order,
E-Mail me with what you find confusing and I'll explain.

[El Bunto]

G-TCDX up and out of Dublin this afternoon after a couple of months in the hangars.

[alasdair1]

Dear all,
What livery was G-TCDXrevealed in?

any pictures?

kind regards
Alasdair

[anthbower1234]

Same hybrid as DW search reg on Flikr new shot on there:)

[El Bunto]

Not my photo but here was DX on Wednesday

https://www.flickr.com/photos/98639661@N07/16500197032/in/photolist-

Looks brighter and cheerier than the stealth-low-viz-grey scheme.

[LiamNCL]

G-MLJL Has left Kuala Lumpar still in its old livery , Heading for Dubai i think

[alasdair1]

Dear all and Liam Ncl,

Thanks Liam for the update i can confirm she is in dubi landed
Is this for a paint?

Kind regards
Alasdair adam

[LiamNCL]

Leaving AUH now for MAN im guessing

[alasdair1]

Dear Liam and all,
She left with a callsign of KESTREL 752M at 40,000ft currently Manchester bound but will update if any other updates come to light.

[goldeneye]

Are the A330-200's that were previously MYT actually owned by TC or are they leased.

G-MDBD, G-MLJL, G-OMYT & OY-VKF

[TSR2]

The three UK registered aircraft are leased according to the CAA Database.

[alasdair1]

Dear TSR2 And All ,
You are correct the uk A330's Are leased.
To my knowlege i think only G-WJAN is owned and opperates with a 233Y
753'S are also leased
The 752's egypt G-TCBB/G-TCBC Are leased from babcock&brown (BBAM)
Hope it helps
G-MLJL has the new seating config 49Premium &273Y total seats 322

[figgi_gsm]

Anyone know if Condor A320 D-AICJ is joining TCX UK or Scandinavia. Reason I ask is it was recently brought out of Airbourne Colours in full 'Sunny Heart' livery with Thomas Cook titles instead of Condor.

[Gordon_uk3]

Think its going to belguim

[Smokie]

From the LSE forum:

"Thomas Cook holds secret talks to offload airline arm: Holiday Giant Thomas Cook is seeking to offload its airline as part of a turnaround plan following the group’s near collapse in 2011."

Invesco have recently been investing big time in Thomas Cook and hold at least 15% of the shares.

Also more info in the Sunday Times.

[alasdair1]

Confirmed it will be a tcw in the summer

With thomas cook airlines lots of they are planning 2 more A321 for next summer plus condor A321'S
And a £8.1million investment in refurbishing long haul aircraft

[macdo]

Offically denied as speculation.

[wethersfield]

No smoke without fire...

[fjencl]

Thomas Cook seeks to sell airline business -report | Reuters (http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/02/22/thomas-cook-grp-restructuring-idUSL5N0VW0G820150222)

[macdo]

yes, probably right, I think HG would have been happy to see the back of the airline, certainly there were mutterings of this kind. She's history and the ST article has the feeling of a rework of old info.
Nothing to see here, move along...

[Diverskii]

Never believe something until it is officially denied

[yeoman]

"Of course we are always open to opportunities"

KY jelly anyone?

[macdo]

Would that be Monarch Brand lubricant? :(

[New T2 Office]

Sunday Times eh!!!







All those articles on Mon last summer they wrote, all rumour and speculation........oh wait, they all turned out to be very accurate :(

[HH6702]

Haven't thomas Cook holidays just signed a new deal to cover the flying of some routes with the group to Norwegian ???

Maybe they will start to use the low cost carriers more and reduce the TCX fleet

[toledoashley]

If they are as serious as I think they are about leisure flying, then British Airways would be the perfect buyer. Rather ironic considering TCX is effectively Caledonian which was BA's 20 years ago.

[CabinCrewe]

BA...? Eh No. They'll not be entertaining economy tour operator fodder

[davidjohnson6]

T2 Office - while Monarch may be in a rather healthier situation today than it was 12 months ago, one should remember that it was far from guaranteed that Monarch would be around in 2015.

What goes in the business section of the sunday papers is frequently rumour based, but those rumours quite often have a basis in reality. If I was working in a behind-the-scenes role at Thomas Cook Airlines, I'd be getting a little nervous about my future.

[New T2 Office]

DJ6....that was the point I was trying to make too!

[chuzwuza]

Tcx effectively caladoian??? Bollox!

[alasdair1]

Tcx are investing in their fleets at present also yes they are also using pgt,xq,fpo,etc
Tocover some flights but try to use tcx on the majority of flights

[OntimeexceptACARS]

Had to laugh at the Birmingham Mail.

Thomas Cook holidaymakers flown to Tenerife by first father and daughter pilot team - Birmingham Mail (http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/thomas-cook-holidaymakers-flown-tenerife-8670976)

"Miss Elliott, 30, from Birmingham, who has notched up 2,500 miles since joining Thomas Cook in 2009".

[TSR2]

Mr Elliott, aged 59, who has 155,000 hours of flying

Now thats one experienced pilot.

[Smokie]

Glad you got back in Laura, although the story given to the press is not entirely true.

[Smokie]

Recent Share Trades for Thomas Cook (TCG)
DateTimeTrade PrcVolumeBuy/SellBidAskValue
24-Feb-1517:11:51123.905,002,910Buy* 123.50123.606.199MO




24-Feb-1516:50:06123.1535,886Sell* 123.50123.6044.19kO




24-Feb-1516:35:03123.604,826Buy* 123.50123.605,965O




*Buys and Sells are calculated on the difference between the trade price and the current mid price. As such, they can occasionally be incorrect.

[Smokie]

5,002,910 shares bought yesterday in one transaction.
Pprune copy and paste doesnt exactly transfer data correctly.
Something definitely going on here. Major buy out on the cards....????
That is 30M+ shares over the last couple of weeks in VERY BIG CHUNKS.

[davidjohnson6]

Thomas Cook has a market capitalisation of 1.8 bn pounds. A trade for 6m pounds is nothing that surprising after a major news announcement - possibly an institutional investor like a fund manager or a hedge fund taking a punt on the company's future.

If a £6m trade was considered highly unusual, the share price would start jumping around to reflect the possibility of a secret buyer of stock. The share price over the last week has barely moved

When a new investor appears on the shareholders register holding 3% or more of the company's equity, then it's more of a conversation piece...

[Smokie]

Invesco have made several large "buys" over the last couple of weeks, £8m £20m and the recent £5m. Prior to the recent £5m buy they were holding 15+%.

[CW247]

EasyJet bought GB Airways back in the mid to late 2000s, do they still have appetite to swallow airlines operating to holiday destinations?

[compton3bravo]

Sorry to disagree, easy bought GB Airways for their slots at Gatwick and Blands (the owners of GB) wanted to sell.

[HH6702]

I'm sure that easyjet would still be happy to buy to get them more slots at gatwick plus some bigger and new a321's!!

[adfly]

I personally don't see it happening. EZY had A321's for a couple of years after they took over GB airways but chose not to order any of their own, instead just changing orders from A319's to A320's. Plus TCX also have their 752/753/763 (I don't think the latter two types are due to be replaced too soon) and a growing long haul operation, neither of which are going to appeal much to EZY (in my opinion...).

[Smokie]

The Boeings are Going ;)

[alasdair1]

Hi all,

The boeing 757-200'S will be gone by summer16

does anyone know when the Boeing 767-300's will leave the fleet?

kind regards
Alasdair

[AirGuru]

Still no news on the sourcing of the A320's for this Summer. Something must be signed and sealed somewhere ?

[LAX_LHR]

There will be a Smartlynx A320 for BHX and a Avion Express A320 for MAN, not sure about where the others will be sourced from.

[FRatSTN]

Isn't CWL usually an A320 as well?

[AirGuru]

Correct FRatSTN. That was the basis of my post.

[Smokie]

SLX 320's at BHX,CWL & LGW. ;)

[HH6702]

What's NCL Getting for a320

Avion ??
If so does anybody know the reg

[fjencl]

What's the legroom like on Smartlynx A320's, somebody once said if you sit
in rows 2-5 or maybe 1-5 there is more leg room as they use these rows when the aircraft is used for business class product when operating for other airlines, not sure how correct that is.


Maybe somebody else who has flown on them can confirm this.


Thanks

[Smokie]

Depends on which type of seats are fitted, they are all different depending on what previous customer specs were. Problem is the aircraft will get rotated around the network, so who knows which aircraft will end up where.
No NCL this year, Avion are doing it.

[SWBKCB]

They haven't rotated the leased aircraft in previous years.

[Smokie]

They are this year, as there are different bases from previous years.

[alasdair1]

Hi all
I would just like to ask when will G-JMCD/E be withdrawn ?
as i understand they are leaving this spring
They are currently based in Glasgow

Also is anyone aware of the aircraft that will be based at glasgow during the summer?
also if anyone knows the registrations that would be of assistance thanks.

Kind regards
Alasdair

[MKY661]

There will be 3 757-200's at GLA this summer with the other being based at MAN, and these will be on Rotation. I believe this will be the final summer season with the 757-200's as well :)

[kieb92]

First Thomas Cook A330-200 has been painted into the new Sunny Heart livery. ex Avianca A330 due for delivery in May. Looks good

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/10996082_1074281342598267_7355888656111931671_n.jpg?oh=7bf6f 9b9ee87b5c9d17ed0e1b373426a&oe=557A1FB5&__gda__=1435532318_3d5897708274f9b34892593cdfd42c9e

Better quality photos on 'LFMP news blog', can't post the link as not working but if yous search this on google, article is dated 3rd March.

[goldeneye]

With Thomas Cook increasing its long haul fleet both in the UK and with Condor in Germany, I'm guessing they will be thinking about fleet renewal at some point. Would they be more likely to order the A350, A330NEO or the 787's to replace the existing A330s (TCX/VKG) and 767 (DE).

[alasdair1]

Dear goldeneye and all,
I think tcx will opt for either the.A330Neo or.A350 xwb as they are hoping to. Make a common fleet
And cost savings in maintenence.

[EGAC is Better]

With Thomas Cook increasing its long haul fleet both in the UK and with Condor in Germany, I'm guessing they will be thinking about fleet renewal at some point. Would they be more likely to order the A350, A330NEO or the 787's to replace the existing A330s (TCX/VKG) and 767 (DE).


My guess would be that a long haul order from the Thomas Cook Group is up for grabs for whichever lessor/manufacturer offers the best deal. I think the A350 will be too much airplane for what they need making it a straight shootout between the A330NEO and B788.

[LiamNCL]

G-TCDH due for delivery today according to Jethros site , Guessing its heading into MAN ?

[Smokie]

Fuson just got a major stake in Shares this time last week. SP is rocketing.
Slow start this week but ending on £1.587p.
This share is only going up and when Fuson invest their second 5% TUI look out! :):ok:

[alasdair1]

Hi
Does anyone know why Kestrel 36PW TCX3417 From tenerife diverted into Prestwick this morning ?
it was running 5hrs late then started its approach to glasgow then Diverted to Prestwick
Aircraft isG-JMCD
KIND
REGARDS
Alasdair adam

[Scottish Flyer]

Planned night closure of Glasgow's runway for maintenance.

[alasdair1]

Hi all and scottish flyer
When will G-JMCD leave Prestwick as G-TCBB opperated along with G-JMCE out of glasgow this morning?

[Andy_S]

Perhaps the time has come to shift these sort of conversations to Spectators Balcony.........

[CabinCrewe]

... praise be. Too many spotter enquiries. I thought this had been highlighted to the same offenders already....

[pc.]

I like all the TCX discussions and info in one thread.... Much more efficient.
It's not as if this thread is filling up pages every day.

Btw Just flown back from Lanzarote on their 757-300 and highly recommend seat 11A, great legroom and easy to get out from, even though you are by the window.... plus right near the entrance.

PC

[Andy_S]

Copied from a moderators comments on the Forum SOP's:

........we regrettably must again remind you that the 'Airlines, Airports and Routes' forum isn't the spotters forum. If you ever find yourself tempted to type in a registration number or discuss aircraft livery it is extremely likely that you are making or responding to a spotter post.

Neither is this forum interested in aircraft seating configuration, in flight entertainment, or which aircraft type is flying a particular route.....

That doesn't mean you can't do it, just that this is not the appropriate place. There are other sub-forums such as Spectators Balcony or Passengers & SLF which exist specifically for this kind of chatter.

[Cargocat]

There is a rumour I have picked up on that the new TCX Premium Economy Seats are not going to be delivered in time for the Summer Season. Is there any truth in this ??

[janeyTA]

There is a rumour I have picked up on that the new TCX Premium Economy Seats are not going to be delivered in time for the Summer Season. Is there any truth in this ??

What have they fitted in the premium cabin refurbs if not premium economy seats? :rolleyes:

[Cargocat]

I take it the answer to my question is "there are no delay's in the delivery of the seats and all the refits are complete".

Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit but in your case the highest you can attain.

[janeyTA]

Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit but in your case the highest you can attain

and the highest form of knowledge, so I can manage without the wit.

[Waldo1]

Sorry im late, i was getting popcorn for everyone....

[alasdair1]

To my knowlege only MLJL has the new seats with premuim economy with 322 seats 49 premuim
All the others
G-OMYT,MDBD have old seating 325 SEATS

G-CHTZ ALL ECONOMY 321 SEATS

Will G-TCXB Have new seating and what capacity?
Also what config will the air tanker have?

[yeo valley]

alasdair 1
if you go back a few posts. the mods put a post up about seats and reg nos on here.
the warning was any one doing this will be suspended from pprune.
mods please move alasdair i post to spectators forum.

[alasdair1]

As a thomas cook ambassador i feel unwelcome