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Robino
22nd Dec 2006, 22:10
Ireland now has the largest Heli ownership per population in the World, with new Agusta 109s, S76s and AW 139s filling the Corporate/VIP books not to mention the R44 orders............
The Tiger continues to roar:D

Helipolarbear
23rd Dec 2006, 10:06
Long may it continue.

rotorboy
24th Dec 2006, 01:34
Tiger roaring? Huh

Housing starts at 10 years low,
real estate in a huge slump, hoping for change with elections and stamp dutys
Lowest level of foriegn investment in 10 years

Slow economic developmet in years....

Irish goverment going after forigen ownership of real estate holdings and bank accounts in Ireland by irish Nationals living abroad.


yeah

roar!

:ok:

Creaser
24th Dec 2006, 10:40
WHere do these helicopters park on trips to Dublin?
Dublin city center has no heliport and Weston is one hour drive from city.

Scope for a heliport in Dublin city/docks?


Creaser

Bladecrack
24th Dec 2006, 14:01
Celtic Heliport is at Knocksedan, just round the corner from EIDW.
There is a company who operate from the docks, but its pretty tight for space from what I hear, cant see the IAA approving a heliport anywhere near the city centre....

BC.

Robino
24th Dec 2006, 14:48
Dublin Port Heli Port should be licensed but its the local County Council permission that would be the problem not the IAA me thinks............:ugh:

tigerfish
24th Dec 2006, 17:26
Robino, I agree Ireland does seem to be the Helicopter capital @ the moment.
I understand that Eurocopter are doing well as well. EC130, 135 and 155 all selling well!

What is the secret of the Ireland success?

Robino
24th Dec 2006, 18:55
Tiger its mainly driven by the Property market and the vast amount of money property developers have made out of this boom, but its also worth noting joe public has done extremley well out of the boom. let me give you a example,

My Father bought a 4 bed semi detached house on a corner site in the suburbs of south Dublin + paid £3000 for it in 1970, we all lived a happy life in the house until the mid nineties when we all flew the nest and went down the marriage route. Both my parents passed away in the last couple of years and the property was left to me and my brother, we decided to build a house on the corner site and when it was finished we sold in excess of €1,000,000 (2005) and last Aug we sold the old family home for €1,300,000 now when you take out the building costs of the house more than €2,000,000 was realised in profit.
This explains how i can afford to own + run a R44 on a modest wage in Ireland, now multiply the site we had by 20 and just imagine what could be turned and to have 5 or 6 sites scattered around Dublin all of a sudden you are in the AW 139 / S76 arena.
This is my story and i am not boasting about what i did... its just my Helicopter is owed to the property boom in Ireland.

bolkow
28th Dec 2006, 11:11
Unfortunately my property fortunes dont match yours, but I manage to run three radio controlled ships successfully. :ok:
If the big sale ever does arrive for me, I'd love a bolkow!

whaey
29th Dec 2006, 14:00
Fair play to the amount of helis in the country. where do all the PPL's train!? Are the schools in Ireland that busy?

Heliseka
29th Dec 2006, 18:02
Busy schools at weston are Eirecopter and EHA,You only have to try and book a lession and you will see how busy it is,crazy at times.Oh and weston is not an hour from Dublin , half hour max from city center if your not in peak hour traffic,and depending where you live even closer.;)

Robino
30th Dec 2006, 00:22
Tigerfish, couple of EC-155s due for delivery in 07 along with EC-130s... 5 130s here already with more to come! no doubt some 120s aswell.

robsrich
30th Dec 2006, 01:34
Robino,

If New Zealand has 640 helicopters for 4.01 million people and 20,000 sheep; does this beat Ireland?

Can you please put my muddled mind to rest. How many choppers for your population?

NZ has about a dozen flying schools, or more. How does that stack up?

You have a lovely country and great music.

topendtorque
30th Dec 2006, 05:10
Robino,

If New Zealand has 640 helicopters for 4.01 million people and 20,000 sheep; does this beat Ireland?

You have a lovely country and great music.

Hey Rob, must have been a slip of the finger there on your ground lice numbers, there’s also about 9m cattle in ENZED half of which are Beef cattle. To put the sheep numbers in perpective, see below;-

Sheep - Today's population of sheep is down from its all time high of 70 million in the 1980s. But New Zealanders are still seriously outnumbered by them. There are countless sheep jokes aimed at New Zealanders, especially from Australians. Ironically Australia has the largest sheep industry in the world (123m), New Zealand comes in at 2nd place. One joke suggests that "there are 50 million sheep in New Zealand and 4 million of them think they are people".
cheers tet

Heli-Ice
30th Dec 2006, 09:01
Creaser

You must buy a faster car :}

tigerfish
30th Dec 2006, 13:20
Robino, That sounds great! Long may it continue. Ireland's a really special place anyway. The people are great & its good that things are looking up from a commerce point of view. Aircraft need maintaining and storing so everyone wins!
Tigerfish:)

TheFlyingSquirrel
30th Dec 2006, 13:59
Robino, That sounds great! Long may it continue. Ireland's a really special place anyway. The people are great & its good that things are looking up from a commerce point of view. Aircraft need maintaining and storing so everyone wins!
Tigerfish:)
This post in 25 years time....
Ireland was a special place and the people were great.....

You don't get something for nothing !

Fy safe kids !

206Fan
20th Jan 2013, 16:25
After six years it must be at it's lowest. Can't even fly a Schweizer here anymore!

onesquaremetre
20th Jan 2013, 18:43
Amazing to read those posts from back in 2006. Are there similar threads about helicopter ownership in Spain, Greece, Iceland, Italy and Portugal lurking in the PPRuNe archive? :ooh:

500 Fan
20th Jan 2013, 22:43
Does anyone have an estimate of what the total figure for airframes resident in the Republic of Ireland, including G- and N- reg machines, was at the peak of the economic boom? One figure I heard was somewhere around the 250 mark. I don't know how accurate that number was.

500 Fan.

baby spanner
20th Jan 2013, 22:53
cant imagine that there is even 50 now

206Fan
20th Jan 2013, 23:38
500,

I heard the same estimate.

The only private machines I know off up here in the North is 2 Private 300CBis, 1 AB206, 1 AS350, 2 R44s which need rebuilt, 1 A109C , 1 Enstrom 280 and 1 AW119 Koala which has been for sale since last June I believe.

Flight schools include Aero-Heli, Cuttingedge Helis and Unique Helis for the North. Aero currently have a SFH price per hour of £435 for their R44 CII. Cheapest I've seen here and it's busy!

md 600 driver
21st Jan 2013, 06:45
There also is a gazelle in the north

206Fan
21st Jan 2013, 09:07
Indeed. Forgot about the Gazelle. Haven't seen it in quite a while!

tu154
21st Jan 2013, 09:08
Probably still holds some kind of record for the highest number of helicopter ops inspectors though... :E

Anthony Supplebottom
21st Jan 2013, 09:35
I was told that Ireland's flirt with money was all about EU subsidies and Irishmen getting lots of road building contracts and development grants!

If that was the case then maybe you could apply to the EU for a helicopter operating subsidy! :8

206Fan
21st Jan 2013, 11:12
Some lovely images on this site of past and present Helicopters in Ireland!

HELICOPTERS-NI's Photos (http://helicopters-ni.smugmug.com/)

Hedski
21st Jan 2013, 12:57
Ireland has more Flight Ops Inspectors than the UK for Helicopters. Given the UK has major companies operating North Sea etc. it's a farce. :ugh:

H

baby spanner
21st Jan 2013, 16:22
makes you wonder how maintenance companies in N.I can survive!

206Fan
21st Jan 2013, 17:02
I believe there is only two EASA 145 approved maintenance service centres at Enniskillen Airport which work on Agusta, Aerospatiale, Bell, Robinson, Eurocopter, Schweizer and MD Aircraft. Sloane Helicopters and London Helicopters. I stand to be corrected!

baby spanner
21st Jan 2013, 19:27
"The only private machines I know off up here in the North is 2 Private 300CBis, 1 AB206, 1 AS350, 2 R44s which need rebuilt, 1 A109C , 1 Enstrom 280 and 1 AW119 Koala which has been for sale since last June I believe"

2 r44s that are times out and a Enstrom that neither have approval for, leaves 6 helicopters between 2 maintenance organisations....

sjon
21st Jan 2013, 19:37
In the Connaught region at the moment, I know of a :

1 x B222
1 x EC-120
1 x AS355
1 x Bell 47
4 x R44
1 x Enstorm 480.

Anthony Supplebottom
22nd Jan 2013, 15:29
Ireland’s Premier Helicopters ceases operations | Helihub - the Helicopter Industry Data Source (http://helihub.com/2013/01/22/irelands-premier-helicopters-ceases-operations/)

206Fan
23rd Jan 2013, 13:33
1 x B222
1 x EC-120
1 x AS355
1 x Bell 47
4 x R44
1 x Enstorm 480. Does Executive own the 355?


I believe there is another Private 355 Twin in the North still!

http://helicopters-ni.smugmug.com/Helicopters/Private-Corporate/i-rV9GxGz/0/XL/G-DEUX_01A_290612-XL.jpg


Also this AS350 in Louth.

http://helicopters-ni.smugmug.com/Helicopters/Private-Corporate/i-jx74Lc9/0/XL/G-PBZN_02A_280411-XL.jpg