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ested
12th Dec 2006, 07:43
1. Being lawfully correct:


A: Is one only supposed to log IF time when an approach is done? Or can you log any time spent in cloud and horizon-less situations?
B: Does “part 91.02.4(3)(A) complied with” have to be written into ones logbook every time an approach is done or only every 90 days (as long as it was done of course)?
C: Are 2 whites 2 reds compulsory? l. i. n. k. pilots are welcome to answer this one! :)
2. Being Radio Telephonically correct:


A: “Strength 5” or “Loud and Clear” ?
B: “Springbok 123 request?”… Go ahead…. “Springbok 123 request right of track 20 degrees for the next 50 miles” or “Springbok 123 request right of track for weather” ?
3. Being Navigationally correct:


A: When flying from the True north pole to the magnetic north pole, are you flying north or south?
B: Why is the magnetic standby compass adjusted for accuracy with the landing lights (and other lights) on? The most likely time it will ever be used would be for a complete electrical failure.
4. Linguistically correct:


A: “The yolk of the egg is white” or “the yolk of the egg are white” ?
5. Politically correct:

A: “Carry my bag boy-pilot!” or “Carry my bag 2’nd officer!”

Rude Boy
14th Dec 2006, 11:07
Ested, I'm just going to have a stab at one or two of your questions, my poor noggin is a bit too wind swept and sun scorched to think too hard about things like this. Got to remember to close the storm window more.
question 2 B: I wish more people would just get to the point and make their requests or postion reports straight out. ATC know that by pushing the PTT in the first place you're not going to be asking after their well being or providing thoughtful insights into the state of current affairs. They don't need the warning to put their thinking caps on.
question 5: If the little sod needs to be asked then he needs a politically correct fall on the head. ;)

manamana
21st Dec 2006, 08:12
I'll go for the easy one. Isn't an egg yolk yellow?

punkalouver
21st Dec 2006, 14:00
If you are at the true north pole or any where near there in Canadian airspace which is where the magnetic north pole is, your compass is unreliable so you will be using a true track for navigation. Therefore you will follow a track of due south. Just make sure it is the proper south.

Avi8tor
27th Dec 2006, 07:09
Not sure what the part about Link guys being welcome to answer is about, but I detect a dig. I kinda sure it was meant to be light hearted, so i will keep the reply in the same vein. But let’s just have a small précis on PAPI/VASI.

PAPI's are visual aids for the approach. They are to stop the aviationally challenged amongst us from hitting obstacles on the approach. Also guarantee SE landing/go around performance. They are set to the desired approach angle and located 300m in from the end (TDZ). Think that we all know.

But as the name implies, they are VISUAL aids. ERGO it depends on what the guys in the sharp end see. Problem is that, depending on the size of the aircraft and how much there is behind where the working folks sit, as to where the wheels end up. Also it would be nice to keep the pax happy too, so a controlled crash at 650ft/m ROD is not recommended. Most Airlink pilots try to do nice landings :) so a flare is the technique most pilots prefer.

The issue now becomes that performance tables are based on crossing the threshold at 50 feet and the TOUCHING DOWN on the BIG 300m blocks. If u touch down before, bonus. Therefore where a guy in a ‘van will touch down and where the guys in an A346 will touch down, if both stay 2 reds/2 whites, is kinda way different.

End of lesson

Wonder what people do where there is no PAPI’s? Not allowed to land?

square leg
27th Dec 2006, 11:12
http://www.faa.gov/ATpubs/AIM/Chap2/aim0201.html

PAPI's and VASI's are not quite the same thing.

Happydays
27th Dec 2006, 12:26
1. Being lawfully correct:

A: Is one only supposed to log IF time when an approach is done? Or can you log any time spent in cloud and horizon-less situations?
B: Does “part 91.02.4(3)(A) complied with” have to be written into ones logbook every time an approach is done or only every 90 days (as long as it was done of course)?
C: Are 2 whites 2 reds compulsory? l. i. n. k. pilots are welcome to answer this one! :) 2. Being Radio Telephonically correct:

A: “Strength 5” or “Loud and Clear” ?
B: “Springbok 123 request?”… Go ahead…. “Springbok 123 request right of track 20 degrees for the next 50 miles” or “Springbok 123 request right of track for weather” ?3. Being Navigationally correct:

A: When flying from the True north pole to the magnetic north pole, are you flying north or south?
B: Why is the magnetic standby compass adjusted for accuracy with the landing lights (and other lights) on? The most likely time it will ever be used would be for a complete electrical failure. 4. Linguistically correct:

A: “The yolk of the egg is white” or “the yolk of the egg are white” ?5. Politically correct:

A: “Carry my bag boy-pilot!” or “Carry my bag 2’nd officer!”

Being Lawfully correct:

A) Not only an approach, when you flying with sole ref to the intruments. Otherwise how do you log IF time towards a Night Rating ???
b) YES
c) NO

Being Radio Telephonically correct:

a) "read you strength 5 , clarity 5 "
b) “Springbok 123 request right of track for weather” ? Short and simple !

Being Navigationally correct
a) Ill say South/west
b) most a.c turn the landing lights on when cleared for takeoff and it stays on until 10,000ft