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OMIDAIR
1st Dec 2006, 22:22
I am 35 yers old with a CPL IR ME FROZEN-ATPL and 260 hur.
I love to fly and dream about it every night, I have very good connections and can get a job, but here is the problem.
My wife is against it, she think that I will crash and die, what shuld I do???
Just canīt forget about flying but I altso love my wife, anyone have any sugestions???

RED WINGS
1st Dec 2006, 22:24
divorce??

dont worry you will talk her around

hetfield
1st Dec 2006, 22:28
I am 35 yers old with a CPL IR ME FROZEN-ATPL and 260 hur.
I love to fly and dream about it every night, I have very good connections and can get a job, but here is the problem.
My wife is against it, she think that I will crash and die, what shuld I do???
Just canīt forget about flying but I altso love my wife, anyone have any sugestions???

- If you can fly 747 (sorry airbus), easy answer.
- If your wifes name is Pamela Anderson, easy answer.

GOLDEN LION
1st Dec 2006, 22:29
You could always start by growing some balls :p

OMIDAIR
1st Dec 2006, 22:32
divorce??

dont worry you will talk her around


Hi

I am worry becuse soon itīs too late for me and I am afraid of to hate her then for that :(

OMIDAIR
1st Dec 2006, 22:43
- If you can fly 747 (sorry airbus), easy answer.
- If your wifes name is Pamela Anderson, easy answer.


I am not flying 747 but my wife is 1000 times more beutyfull then pamela anderson, more sugestions?

AltFlaps
1st Dec 2006, 22:58
You could try giving her all the statistical rubbish about it being more dangerous driving to work ..etc.. (not just in case an airplane crashes into you !)

Other than that - in think you're facing a nasty case of AIDS (Aviation Induced Divorse Syndrome)

rinaldo
1st Dec 2006, 23:03
I am not flying 747 but my wife is 1000 times more beutyfull then pamela anderson, more sugestions?

What about..introduce me to those good connection?.....If I can't get a job in a few time I'll be rid off by the whole family!!...wife 'nd son...I'm driving 'em crazy with all that aviation stuff.....
...if you really love to fly then...it will be you hating your wife 'cos she want you to fly...time is a damn foe...a dream killer don't give him a help...he don't need...

Ultralights
1st Dec 2006, 23:09
dont worry about it, fly anyway, if you stop flying because of her, you will resent it, and that is never a good path to go down in a marriage.... the issue is hers, she has to get over it, not you... wanting to fly is part of who you are, and no one should have to change, or want to change anyone for whatever reason, and if you do, the relationship will fail eventually.

Stop Stop Stop
1st Dec 2006, 23:12
Get another wife? :}

chemical alli
1st Dec 2006, 23:20
I am not flying 747 but my wife is 1000 times more beutyfull then pamela anderson, more sugestions?
well easiy answer go buy flight sim 4 sit at a desk with your hand on a joystick and pretend and let your wife watch as any self respect flys out the window along with that 747 dream of yours ,least you will have a life but you will never wear the pants or make another decision, and if you cant make rational decisions and wear some pain then you havent got the right stuff as they say

gingernut
1st Dec 2006, 23:21
Put her in denial.

gingernut
1st Dec 2006, 23:23
And then deny the denial:)

Works every time, especially with women, who have absolutely no idea of mens logic.

Thank god:)

AcroChik
1st Dec 2006, 23:31
On a gorgeous CAVU morning, rent a 172 SP and fly your wife somewhere lovely, somewhere rural. Once there, buy her a delicious lunch and then fly her home.

After showing her your skills and a bit of love, she'll admire what you can do and will want you to do what you love.

My dad did something very much like this with my mom. Seems the lunch he bought her was a bacon cheesburger, and not the gourmet variety. Did the trick, though.

Added ~~~> With 260 hours you should be instructing. You can do that part time. Then you could get an overnight freight ME gig, bust mins, fly homemade approaches into conjested airspace and whisper a prayer while frolicking through wild sigmets as you fondle the deice switch like a rosary.

gingernut
1st Dec 2006, 23:43
Ok hands up, Acro's tactics will beat mine, hands down!!

Shaggy Sheep Driver
2nd Dec 2006, 01:01
OMIDAIR - I know how you feel. I got a job as an inter-galactic starship captain on the strength of my PPL and extensive tailwheel experience and some family connections (don't ask!). But the little lady was jealous that all that blasting around the universe would mean I'd age slower than she would.

So I never realised the dream.

:rolleyes:

SSD

GrumpyOldFart
2nd Dec 2006, 02:05
gingernut:


Put her in denial


But make sure there are no witnesses.



err... do you mean de White Nile or de Blue Nile?

airspeedsalive
2nd Dec 2006, 03:01
Fly for fun - enjoy your home life.

matt_hooks
2nd Dec 2006, 03:24
Hey, man, get some cajones!!!

But seriously, show her stuff like this http://www.fearless-flight.com/flight-safety/statistics.php there's stuff like it all over the web.

And I quote... Studies have shown one would have to fly once a day every day for over 15,000 years in order to statistically be involved in an aircraft accident!

Now I don't know about you, but I reckon those are pretty good odds. I reckon your body will give out LONG before that happens. And anyway by then we'll all be teleporting everywhere so no need for flying!

Beautiful or otherwise, her seeking to fetter your dreams like this, especially as you have already shown the commitment in time, effort and money, to get the necessary licences, will eventually lead to you resenting her. I think only those who have "the flying bug" could ever understand the compulsion to "shed the surly bonds". As one of my old instructors was fond of saying...

Born to fly, must fly!

So go get that job. I'm sure she'll be much happier when you take her on her first cheap holiday! :)

ZFT
2nd Dec 2006, 07:35
On a gorgeous CAVU morning, rent a 172 SP and fly your wife somewhere lovely, somewhere rural. Once there, buy her a delicious lunch and then fly her home.
After showing her your skills and a bit of love, she'll admire what you can do and will want you to do what you love.
My dad did something very much like this with my mom. Seems the lunch he bought her was a bacon cheesburger, and not the gourmet variety. Did the trick, though.
Be careful it doesn’t backfire. After 25+ or so years of (in Mrs ZFT’s eyes) wasting money of all aspects of aviation, a friend and I who try to have a ‘boys’ flying holiday each year took our wives island hopping in the Bahamas 2 weeks ago. Should have been great but the weather had other ideas and now Mrs ZFT is absolutely convinced it is wasted money!!!!

PS and it was a C172SP G1000 equipped. Nice aircraft

BORN4THESKYS
2nd Dec 2006, 08:30
Sir

She must have known what you did or wanted to do when she first met you! :ok: Your passion for flying is part of you, and she should love the fact that you want tom pursue a career that you actually enjoy, rather than live to work like the majority of goverment slaves (the tax payer) who dread going to work each day. Rational talk is always the best answer, perhaps a lesson in a light aircraft etc for her might help her overcome her own fears about flying (I'm presuming she has some) and in turn her her to stop worrying about you so much.

Its your choice at the end of the day my friend. All I can say is in the past I've changed my plans due to the influence of an ex girlfriend, never again, you have to loom after no1!:)

UniFoxOs
2nd Dec 2006, 09:18
Don't forget to point out to her all the cheap exotic holidays you will be able to get as crew - mine would send me down a salt mine for a cheap ticket to Barbados.

UFO

effortless
2nd Dec 2006, 09:32
Mrs Effortless was on at me for twenty years to change my proffession. I did and she left me within the year. Unfortunately, by the time I got over it, father time told me it was too late to go back. :{

lexxity
2nd Dec 2006, 19:02
She needs to get over her fear and support you in your chosen career. Flying for a living isn't a whim it's your lifes dream and if she can't accept that then you are destined for the divorce courts.

She will soon get over it when she is sitting in 1A, with you flying the thing off to somewhere warm.

Go for it, because if you don't you will regret it for the rest of your life.

arcniz
3rd Dec 2006, 07:19
A hubby flying for the airlines tends to be away a lot. She may have been reading pprune or similar about the things up with which pilot wives must put.

Probably the best sales pitch.... for your flying career and her peace of mind... will come about if you can find and socialise with some well-adjusted couples where the hubby flies and the wife is a home-maker or does something similar to your wife's work. This will give the wife a back-channel through which to enquire about concerns that she might not want to casually discuss with you.. and will help her understand that pilot's wives tend to form a social support network that can make the experience (of staying behind to tend the nest while hubby galavants around the world, living in hotels, surrounded by well-kept stews, etc.) much more pleasant.

Take the advice about giving rides in anything smaller than a Citation with a grain of salt. You can lose more than you might gain with that approach, if she is totally unfamiliar and turns nervous. Non-pilots often do not appreciate the wiggles, shakes and grinds of flimsy, noisy, small recip-powered aircraft as much as the fliers do. If it struck her the wrong way, a worrisome light plane ride could be a very difficult negative to un-do. Perhaps better to do commercial flights together to nearby destinations - giving her the window seat, when the sun isn't too hot, and possibly lingering for a view of the flight deck after the aircraft empties. (An informative aside to senior cabin crew might even get her the de-luxe tour and extra-good vibes for a couple of minutes.)

Because you already have the qualifications and in a position to begin working soon, it seems quite reasonable to argue the immediate advantages of going forward with flying for a while. You might well propose that you will plan to fly for n-years, where n is 3 or 5, maybe, and then re-open the topic for review and consideration of other alternatives. This would seem to be fair to each of you, and to make the best use of the valuable resource that you have ( in being able to step into flying work relatively quickly and smoothly.)

Every wife I've had has been a friend and a partner, as well as a mate, but has also been vested with somewhat different interests and moved by different motivations. Better for your job and your peace of mind to have solid agreement with your spouse about things that potentially may affect your shared finances, stability of the union, and quality of life for the (hypothetical) kids, and the dog, of course.

Mr Lexx
3rd Dec 2006, 10:05
It is about compromise. She is trying to stop you doing something that you feel very passionate about. You will end up resenting her if you agree to her demands, and resentment festers and grows into contempt.

(this thread reminds me that when Lexxi and I got together, I was in the selection process for the RAF, which consequently didn't happen, she always reminds me that I "owe her one pilot")

Willows
3rd Dec 2006, 12:54
Tell her you're an air traffic controller. :p That way you have an excuse for all that time away from home.

Etna
3rd Dec 2006, 13:30
If she is genuinely concerned for your safety while flying, ask her to tell to honestly how many people she knows of who have died in road accidents. Then get her to tell you how many people she knows of who have died in plane crashes. If she is unwilling to do this then perhaps she is not being totally honest with you and doesn't want you to fly for other reasons, then it might be a case of re-evaluating your marriage.

Davaar
3rd Dec 2006, 14:55
ask her to tell to honestly how many people she knows of who have died in road accidents. Then get her to tell you how many people she knows of who have died in plane crashes.

That would not work in my case. "Honestly", you suggest. It once crossed my mind to make a list of those whom I had known killed in Chipmunk, Vampire, Venom, Buccaneer, Provost, Seahawk, Meteor, Sea Fury, Firefly, and Hunter. I stopped when I reached just under forty names. I have known two people killed in car crashes.

I do not include the civil aircraft investigations in which I have been concerned. The number of civil incidents was much lower than the military, although the numbers of fatalities when they did occur were inevitably higher. That is in the nature of the civil aircraft's function of delivering people, not ordnance.

This still leaves open the question of: What to do? If someone loves flying, he will not likely find happiness in book-keeping and accountancy, and if he is forced/blackmailed into accountancy someone/sometwo are in line for lasting unhappiness.

Tricky Woo
3rd Dec 2006, 17:32
Lie to her.

Tell her yer work as a doorman for some posh airport hotel. It'll explain the epaulettes, weird hours, and crap wages.

Avoid long-haul work.

TW

G-CPTN
3rd Dec 2006, 17:44
Tell her that you're going to get a job as a bus-driver.

Jinkster
3rd Dec 2006, 23:15
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjxY9rZwNGU

Ever seen this :E

wiccan
3rd Dec 2006, 23:58
On a gorgeous CAVU morning, rent a 172 SP and fly your wife somewhere lovely, somewhere rural. Once there, buy her a delicious lunch
And then leave her there!! Fly the a/c back and say "You wanna come home? I gotta fly.......OK?" :E
BB

OMIDAIR
6th Dec 2006, 20:52
Thank you all for all sugestions, some good and som ............

I will not give upp := , I will try all the methods I fined and will let you know the result.

Pray for me :)

H.Finn
9th Dec 2006, 15:29
My ex-wife didn't want me to fly, either...

Juud
9th Dec 2006, 16:21
OMIDAIR, people here been real nice and gentle with you (don't know what the hell has gotten into Jetblast these days) but it's time you face up to a home truth.

Unless they are into aviation themselves, no significant other will ever want their mate to fly!
And why would they?

While you're out doing what you enjoy, she's gonna be home with the kids, the leaking faucets, the lawn to mow and the Xmas decorations to put up.
(wasn't there a hilarious thread about wives putting up Xmas decs last year, from one of our Yankee brethren?)
All by her little self.

While you are ogling fit young flight attendants, she'll be dealing with smelly garbage men and surly car mechanics. You're on an exotic beach wondering if 11 AM is too early for a piņa colada, while she is wondering how in the world she's gonna get your youngest to the dentist while getting the oldest to ballet classes. AND coock the brats a nutricious meal on your meagre SO wages.

Apart from which, she KNOWS.
She knows flying is dead dangerous, especially with you at the yoke. God knows what can happen when her bloke, the guy who doesn't even know how to boil a kettle of water, suddenly has to react appropriately to a TCAS RA.
She's nobody's fool. :=

OMIDAIR, if you really wanted to fly, you'd do it.
You wouldn't be here crying about how your wife won't let you.
So grow a backbone and go for it, and keep in mind that whatever you do to make it right for her, she'll never get over feeling hard done by anyway.
So you might as well stop trying to please her right now.

Where is Marge when you need her? :rolleyes:

barit1
10th Dec 2006, 00:50
You had the CPL before you had her, right? :}