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Engine overtemp
28th Oct 2006, 00:28
From the "Times On Line" http://business.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,9067-2425433,00.html

EMIRATES, the fastest growing global airline, has dumped orders worth $4 billion (£2.1 billion) for the Airbus A340 and admitted that it is in negotiations to buy $8 billion worth of Boeing 747s.

The carrier is dumping ten firm orders and eight commitments to buy A340s because they no longer fit the carrier’s requirements. The move effectively kills off the A340.

The airline is also talking to Boeing, Airbus’s rival, about buying the new generation of jumbo jet, called the 747-8. Tim Clark, the president of Emirates, said yesterday that he might buy 20 to 30 of the new 747s if Boeing agreed to change the specifications.

Aviation analysts believe that Emirates’ decision to dump the A340 effectively signals the end of the aircraft’s life in its current form.

The A340, introduced in the 1980s, is a four-engined plane seating up to 323 people, but it has become unpopular as fuel prices have risen. With airlines attempting to cut their fuel budgets, the twin-engined Boeing 777s and 787s, which cover the 250-seat to 350-seat range, are proving more popular. Customers that want four-engined planes are opting for much larger units, such as the 747 and the A380, which are more cost-effective per passenger.

Airbus has won only three A340 orders so far this year compared with Boeing’s 24 for 777s and 141 for 787s.

Analysts believe that Airbus will either have to remodel the aircraft or encourage customers to wait for at least six years until it can introduce a replacement.

Speaking at Heathrow yesterday, Mr Clark said: “The A340 is starting to move away from what the market wants while the 777 has come in and is a better plane.”

Mr Clark also expressed concern about another Airbus project, the A380 superjumbo. Emirates is the A380’s largest customer, with 45 on order, worth $13.5 billion at list prices, but it has been frustrated by production delays.

The A380 will now be delivered two years late, which Mr Clark said would cost Emirates “hundreds of millions of dollars” in lost revenue. He has not yet started talking to Airbus about compensation payments, but said he remained committed to the aircraft.

Airbus has told Emirates that its A380s will start to be delivered in 2008, but the airline is cautious about this date. As The Times reported two weeks ago, Emirates is sending its own team of auditors to the Toulouse factory where the aircraft is being assembled to assess whether there will be further delays in production.

The airline has bought seven extra Boeing 777s as insurance in case Airbus fails to meet this latest delivery target.

Emirates has ambitious plans to continue growing at more than 20 per cent a year. Mr Clark said that he thought there was a gap in the market for a 400-seat jet and he is talking to Boeing about buying 747s to fill this.

Boeing’s 747-8 is due to come into service in 2009, seating about 460 people but Emirates wants the American company to build a smaller version for the airline. This version would seat fewer people but have a longer range, allowing Emirates to fly direct from Dubai to Los Angeles.

False Capture
28th Oct 2006, 10:47
The Emirates announcement comes a few days after British Airways launched a competition for its new longhaul aircraft by issuing a Request For Proposals (RFP) on the Airbus A330, A350, A380 and Boeing B787, B777 and B747-8.

The only longhaul aircraft eliminated at this initial stage is the Airbus A340.

mmeteesside
28th Oct 2006, 10:53
Could be time for bmi to pick up a bargain?

akerosid
28th Oct 2006, 13:20
The A340 production line is actually shared with the 330, so these production slots can be converted to 330s; not sure how much lead in that will require, but since the 330 is very much demand in the medium sized widebody class, I'm sure Airbus has the incentive to make sure the slots can be changed; besides which, the 330 is about the only widebody product actually working for Airbus right now.

I'm sure bmi will be among the airlines approached by Airbus; I know Aer Lingus has been approached in relation to 3 A330s for 2008 delivery (although, in fairness, that was before the EK cancellation was announced), so I think Airbus will have relatively little problem delivering these aircraft as 330s.

It's sad to see any aircraft die and quite apart from the economics, I've always considered the 340 to be the most beautiful of airliners, aesthetically speaking. There is one hope remaining for the 340 and that's a expected order for six aircraft from PAL, which is an existing 330/340 operator.

rotornut
30th Oct 2006, 10:23
AP
Airbus Won't Confirm Cancellations
Monday October 30, 5:33 am ET
Airbus Won't Confirm Cancellations, Unperturbed by Outside Auditors

PARIS (AP) -- Airbus said Monday that a visit by Emirates Airlines to check on A380 production plants is simply a follow-up on a promise of transparency to customers of the superjumbo made by former CEO Christian Streiff.
The European planemaker said it was not aware that Dubai's Emirates Airlines, the biggest customer of the A380, was canceling an order for 10 A340-600 jetliners, as reported Sunday on The Wall Street Journal Web site.

As to the visit to Toulouse by auditors to assess the planemaker's progress on building its A380 superjumbo -- now two years behind schedule -- Airbus was apparently unperturbed.

It's "something agreed to at the time of Christian Streiff," said spokesman Justin Dubon. "He promised customers that they would be kept up to date ... and briefed on the progress of the A380."

The plan for updates was on a monthly basis, Dubon said, and "it's up to customers to come and see and investigate how they'd like to."

Streiff was replaced on Oct. 9 by Louis Gallois, the fourth Airbus CEO in 16 months.

The Wall Street Journal report quoted Emirates President Tim Clark as saying his airline will not take the Airbus A340-600 jetliners it had ordered and is sending auditors to assess the European plane maker's progress on the A380 superjumbo program.

Emirates will instead order 777 models from Boeing Co., Emirates Executive Vice Chairman Maurice Flanagan said, the Journal reported.

The switch -- which follows Clark's complaints last year about the high operating cost of the A340 family of planes -- shows how Boeing is benefiting from troubles at Airbus, a unit of Franco-German European Aeronautic Defence & Space Co., the paper said.

The Emirates order for 10 A340-600 jetliners had a catalog value of $2.25 billion (euro1.8 billion), according to the newspaper.

Clark also said Emirates will send engineers to check on in France and Germany. The engineers will examine how Airbus managers are resolving industrial problems that have pushed production of the world's largest passenger plane two years behind schedule and more than one-third over its original $12 billion (euro9.5 billion) budget, the paper said.

Emirates has ordered 43 superjumbos from Airbus and a further two from a leasing company. Airbus has taken a total of 167 firm orders for the A380, including an eight-plane order from Australia's Qantas announced Sunday.

akerosid
30th Oct 2006, 11:18
As far as Emirates is concerned, this is an ex-order; it has ceased to be.

EK is apparently now discussing a 747-8I order with Boeing, although it is hoping to persuade Boeing to revert to its original proposal, for a shorter 747-8I (which will be slightly longer than the current -400), which would allow it to fly n/s to LAX. However, Boeing has to balance this against the requirements of other potential 748I customers, such as BA, who had specifically asked Boeing to lengthen the aircraft.

That's the long and the short of it ...

OverRun
30th Oct 2006, 12:18
And having been back and forth many times in the last 5 weeks on Emirates as a punter up the front, I now know not to book the flights with dreaded A word. [as in A34....]. Can't wait for more of the 7 word (as in 77....). Only now can I understand what Steven Udvar-Hazy meant about the original narrow body A350.

Globaliser
30th Oct 2006, 12:47
OTOH, if you're down the back on EK, you definitely want to avoid the 777 and take the Airbus instead. 10-abreast on the 777, compared with 9-abreast on most other major operators. That's "narrow" for you!