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hobie
14th Oct 2006, 20:14
notice anything unusual about this 747-400? .... :confused:
http://eu.airliners.net/photos/middle/6/3/7/0472736.jpg
skiesfull
14th Oct 2006, 20:23
It's a B747-400D, which Japan Air Lines uses for domestic use only and therefore does not need the winglets.
Didn't the 747-300's look the same as the -400 but without the winglets?
Stretchwell
14th Oct 2006, 20:45
No. Give us all a clue as the suspence iis killing me !! :D
hobie
14th Oct 2006, 22:00
It's a B747-400D, which Japan Air Lines uses for domestic use only and therefore does not need the winglets
you got it in 1 ..... :ok:
I had never realized that version was available untill today ....
REF .... 747-300 did indeed look very similar but very different technically to the 400
747-300 info ..... http://www.airliners.net/info/stats.main?id=99
Stretchwell
14th Oct 2006, 22:22
So how can you tell from the head-on view that it is a -300 or a -400D ? Are the winglets superimposed and if so then why bother?
hobie
15th Oct 2006, 02:35
Here's some info on the 400 ......
The 747-400 externally resembles the -300, but it is a significantly improved aircraft. Changes include a new, two crew digital flightdeck with six large CRT displays, an increased span wing with winglets (the -400 was the first airliner to introduce winglets), new engines, recontoured wing/fuselage fairing, a new interior, lower basic but increased max takeoff weights, and greater range.
full details .... http://www.airliners.net/info/stats.main?id=100
Capt Fathom
15th Oct 2006, 10:17
hobie. Have I missed something here. The 747 in the photo above does have winglets!
By the way, if a winglet on a 747-400 is damaged and removed, it can still fly with one remaining!
Stretchwell
15th Oct 2006, 10:49
Strangely I know the difference between a -300 and -400 because I fly the -400s for a living! My question was how can you tell that the photo is a -400D and not a -300 or -400? Why would someone superimpose winglets on a -400D? :8
hobie
15th Oct 2006, 16:11
hobie. Have I missed something here. The 747 in the photo above does have winglets!
Capt Fathom ..... are you sure? ..... cos I sure can't see them .... :confused:
Here's one with Winglets ....
http://eu.airliners.net/photos/middle/1/9/7/1110791.jpg
Capt Fathom
15th Oct 2006, 22:40
Interesting. The photo I am looking at in the first post is the same as the one just posted. There must be a problem with my settings. Both photos show a head-on shot of a -400 from airliners.net
Thanks for that xetroV. All is now revealed!
xetroV
15th Oct 2006, 22:53
Nothing wrong with your settings: airliners.net just doesn't like hotlinking and shows its logo instead. Only hobie can see the pictures as they are still in his browser's cache (you can too if you copy the picture's url and paste it into the address bar of your browser).
AlphaMale
15th Oct 2006, 23:13
http://eu.airliners.net/photos/middle/6/3/7/0472736 .jpg
Stick this in a new window and close the gap between 0472736 and the .jpg that should give you the direct link.
Hope it helps you guys out.
Interesting by the way (I didn't know the reason why - but I did notice they were missing).
Andrew
barit1
16th Oct 2006, 01:46
If one has very precisely calibrated eyeballs, the nacelles on the -400 are just a mite bigger in diameter than earlier models - bigger fans!
PS - there are a very few earlier 747 models with the bigger fan. Anyone care to guess? :}
hobie
16th Oct 2006, 04:41
Nothing wrong with your settings: airliners.net just doesn't like hotlinking and shows its logo instead. Only hobie can see the pictures as they are still in his browser's cache (you can too if you copy the picture's url and paste it into the address bar of your browser).
oh Cripes .... :{ ...... sorry guys .....
there 's nothing simple in this world is there .... :ok: