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Argonautical
13th Oct 2006, 14:57
Saw these on another forum, don't know who took them and sorry if they have been shown before but they make a change from Hawks.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/argonautical/E1.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/argonautical/E2.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/argonautical/E3.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/argonautical/E4.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/argonautical/Eagle8.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/argonautical/Eagle14.jpg

RobinXe
13th Oct 2006, 15:16
Nice paint scheme on the top of the wings, would make great camouflage against clouds :E

foormort
13th Oct 2006, 15:57
Yep, I think that just about beats a Hawk!! Very nice.

oldbeefer
13th Oct 2006, 17:15
Awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

microlight AV8R
13th Oct 2006, 22:13
Bring back the flying banana !

Lazer-Hound
14th Oct 2006, 00:00
Outstanding photos! Wouldn't want to be the wrong side of that feller!:ok:

Yes, much better than a couple of Hawks. :}

PS. Why has s/he got a dayglo jumper on the dashboard?

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh!
14th Oct 2006, 00:06
Nice paint scheme on the top of the wings, would make great camouflage against sheep :E

Brian Abraham
14th Oct 2006, 02:54
Absolutely loved #3 with #2 a close second. You should put them up to Aviation Week & Space Technology mag for their yearly photo comp. A prestigious award to put on the mantle piece. :D

RICKO
14th Oct 2006, 07:06
Didn't know who had taken them?
ME!!

Runaway Gun
14th Oct 2006, 08:31
So you're one of those hardy types that climb the Welsh mountains with a bag of photo-kit waiting for us to fly by? You're obviously very keen and dedicated.

Good on yer Ricko, glad to see your fantastic photographs. Have these been taken up by any of the magazines?

RICKO
14th Oct 2006, 08:46
Runaway gun.

Yes, i am one of them.
I was out again yesterday in Wales.

I don't send them to magazines.They are for personel use and aircrew when they ask for them.

It was quite a shock to see them on here this morning as i know you guys don't appreciate being bombarded with photographs from photogs all the time.

Ricko.

RICKO
14th Oct 2006, 09:11
Mike.

Many thanks for the comments.

You should see the rest!!!

Ricko.

John Eacott
14th Oct 2006, 09:32
You should see the rest!!!

Ricko.

Yes please :ok:

Where are they hosted?

RICKO
14th Oct 2006, 09:37
John.

On my pc!
i will put some more on later if it's ok with PPrune POP?

Ricko.

Navy_Adversary
14th Oct 2006, 11:12
Fantastic images and awesome flying, must have been RAF exchange pilots:)

Tiger_mate
14th Oct 2006, 11:14
Right place; right time; awesome results:

Looking forward to some more, and details of hardware used would be nice.

You must make some money from these photos, atmosphere like that in an image is a rare treat, and a suitable renumeration would be a just reward.

MR12
14th Oct 2006, 13:02
Right place; right time; awesome results:
Looking forward to some more, and details of hardware used would be nice.
You must make some money from these photos, atmosphere like that in an image is a rare treat, and a suitable renumeration would be a just reward.
Heartily agree. Now if you'll excuse me we've just run out of Kleenex.

RICKO
14th Oct 2006, 13:58
Gents.

Sorry to disappoint you.
I don't make a penny from these. All in a days play.

Equipment,

Canon 20 D
Sigma 300 2.8 lens.
Walking sticks.
Flask.
Copious amounts of patients!!!

Ricko.

alex_holbrook
14th Oct 2006, 15:15
Absolutely AWESOME photos. What do you use these patients for? I'm sure slavery is illegal.:E ;)

RICKO
14th Oct 2006, 15:29
oops sorry.

Patience.

:ok:

bluetail
14th Oct 2006, 17:06
You,ll have been with my mate "TOMG", I,ve seen his similar set, awesome stuff:D

RICKO
14th Oct 2006, 17:14
Bluetail. yes.

We had a good day.
Boy was he glad he was there!

Ricko.

bluetail
14th Oct 2006, 17:22
I know.......... he rang me

Doesn,t he have bad Knees though

Put some more stuff up though

Evileyes
14th Oct 2006, 17:31
RICKO,

Consider yourself "cleared hot" to post your pics. They are welcome additions to the forum.

Regards,
The Mods

airborne_artist
14th Oct 2006, 17:38
Any of those printed up poster-sized would look superb on a crew-room wall.

Have you tried using one of the pro-hosting sites, where you can post your prints for sale? They host them, handle all the sales, and you decide price and get a rake off.

Saves all the aggro of handling money etc., and give you something back for your hard work towards your petrol etc.

RICKO
14th Oct 2006, 19:03
Thanks for the comments gents.
As i said before, i don't sell my stuff, i do it because i enjoy it.
Just one more for now, I will post some more later.
Once again cheers.
Ricko.
http://hometown.aol.co.uk/SPEC%20INST/Eagle+16.jpg

El Grifo
14th Oct 2006, 19:42
Ricko, I have been a professional commercial photographer for over 25 years so I feel slightly qualified to tell you that your shots are absolutely fantastic.

They are as good as anything I have ever seen anywhere in the world.

I too was once a keen amateur until somebody noticed my work. I now travel to exotic places all over the planet on commisions, accompanied by trusty wife/assistant all expenses paid and a nice fee for my work.

I have done OK out of it. You should be doing OK out if it too!!!:ok:

Corrona
14th Oct 2006, 20:31
Come on RICKO I can't wait any longer, show us the rest of them.

Danza
14th Oct 2006, 21:53
Riko, do you post over on UKAR, if not get over there now, your pics would be appreciated by all :)

GPMG
14th Oct 2006, 22:19
Hi Ricko, any chance you can post your settings or any tips for getting those phots please?

They have to rate as some of the most impressive images I have seen. I'm just starting to get into photography and hope to soon buy a good SLR and lens I'm currently on a Lumix DMC-FZ7 so it's just nice landscapes and baby phots at the moment but I hope to attend a C&G phot course and then graduate to a good Cannon or Nikon. My eventual aim is to get into motorsport photography with a view to going semi pro.

Again, amazing photographs, thank you for posting them.

Double Zero
15th Oct 2006, 02:42
Ricko,

As an ex-photographer for BAe - where I must admit such opportunities were remarkably absent - I can only agree with all the previous gentlemen - you clearly have talent & motivation, not just a case of knowing the settings...

Go for it !

jack schidt
15th Oct 2006, 04:33
How many passes did the F15 make. It must have been at least 2 as the driver has his visor down in some pics and obviously came around again to get his face in the pic (visor up).
I am also impressed the way the detail comes through so nicely on the pics, with such excellent lift generated condensation. AND the aircraft happend to be fully armed AND have external fuel tanks to make it looking even more mean.
Right time, place, weather, aircraft load, camera, film speed, camera settings, photographer.:D

jumpseater
15th Oct 2006, 06:37
GPMG, there's a good thread already running here, which covers some of the stuff you'll need to know, rather than dilute Ricko's thread

http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=238026

Windrush21
15th Oct 2006, 08:01
Rico
Excellent stuff, really impressive pics. Those boys have got some toys to play with!! It also looks like a good bit of land, any chance of getting the OS grid ref and map? Maybe i'll get lucky one day.

RICKO
15th Oct 2006, 09:40
Hi there.
Well i am overwhelmed with the replies.
I will get around to posting a few more later on.
However let me answer one or two questions.
Yes the Eagle did come through twice, no doubt he must of noticed me the first time around, well i did have a hi viz jacket on ( safety reasons and all that). As we all know any jet only passes the same location two times!
I do not post on UKAR sorry.
Grid reference? again sorry haven't got one.
I, like many other photographer spend hours and hours sitting on a hill in all kinds of weather waiting for the odd jet or two to pass the lens.
It is a 200 mile round trip for me and i start off at 5.30am to get out there and sometimes i go out two days a week.
The weather that morning was not good and as many will agree that part of Wales has a climate of it's own, it looked like an other bad day until that Eagle came through and produced these results.
Had the sun been out the shots would not have been that dramatic.
Ricko.

RICKO
15th Oct 2006, 16:14
A few more up close and personal shots!!
Ricko.
http://hometown.aol.co.uk/SPEC%20INST/E+a.jpg

http://hometown.aol.co.uk/SPEC%20INST/E+b.jpg

http://hometown.aol.co.uk/SPEC%20INST/E+c.jpg

junglyking
15th Oct 2006, 16:21
Could you make those any better?

Time to give up the day job and go full time....:D

RICKO
15th Oct 2006, 17:11
Could you make those any better?
I'll try !!
http://hometown.aol.co.uk/SPEC%20INST/E+d.jpg

http://hometown.aol.co.uk/SPEC%20INST/E+e.jpg

http://hometown.aol.co.uk/SPEC%20INST/E+f.jpg

hoodie
15th Oct 2006, 17:44
Anybody want to buy a camera? :{

:D :D :D

biddedout
15th Oct 2006, 18:01
Come on pilot and WSO, you must have seen these by now, lets see the pictures that you were taking of our photographers from the back seat on the second pass.

Never mind entering competitions and selling prints, how about the Squadron / Base Commander awarding the photographer a flight in one of these machines for producing probably the best ground to air photo of the F15 (or probably any FJ) ever. They could have exclusive rights to the original.

Go on!:ok:

Stuff
15th Oct 2006, 18:10
What's the purpose of the strange looking device with what can only be described as antenna sticking out of it mounted on the inner launcher on the starboard wing?

Wee Weasley Welshman
15th Oct 2006, 18:22
Impressive stuff. It was F-111s doing that sort of thing over my Grandfathers farm that drew my attention to the fact that there were more exciting careers available outside of Mid-Wales...

If you offered some of those images as pictures to hang on the wall I'd buy one. Gods finest aircraft over Gods finest country. Just wish we'd ordered 277 of them instead of a handful of very late Typhoons... :{

WWW

ExRAFRadar
15th Oct 2006, 18:23
After seeing so many pics of FJ types at low level I sort of lost interest in them. Well not 'lost interest' but had got used to seeing them anyway.

But these are a class apart.

Well done is simply not enough.

I am in awe. :)

Safeware
15th Oct 2006, 18:42
Stuff,

Not sure what the US use (RAIDS?) But it is a telemetry pod for transmitting the carrying a/c position etc to ground stn or other a/c. Remember the de-brief in TopGun where the are sitting replaying their moves?

sw

brickhistory
15th Oct 2006, 19:08
What's the purpose of the strange looking device with what can only be described as antenna sticking out of it mounted on the inner launcher on the starboard wing?


ACMI (air combat manuveuring instrument) pod - as Safeware said, it's used to link the fighter into the control station at a range so that 'kills' can be assessed real time and then is used as a very valuable de-brief aid to show what happened when during a training mission.

Lazer-Hound
15th Oct 2006, 19:30
Silly question Ricko, but if they came around twice, probably they noticed you? Did they wave at you? Do FJ crews ever wave at you? I'd have thought the back-seater could at least give a cheery wave, like the Mustang pilot in 'Empire of the Sun'.

akula
15th Oct 2006, 20:08
Thank you RICKO, those images are awe inspiring.

Lazer, if you squint:suspect: right up close to your monitor I think you can just about make out the RIO providing a "cheery wave" in the extreme close up shot.

ALWAYS assume NEVER check

jumpseater
15th Oct 2006, 20:29
LH, yes we do get occaisional waves, I don't know aboout Ricko but its usually after the 'pass' that I see the wave, when 'chimping' (thats when all the snappers are looking at the display screens on the back of their cameras, we look like chimps, playing with their nuts). Its nice to see!

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c270/2012images/_B6O4204.jpg

Dominoe
15th Oct 2006, 20:31
I`d buy one of them as a framed poster.

How does one get to publish pics on PPRUNE? I took some nice airborne pics of a 4 ship formation I flew in and was considering publishing one or two of them.

PPRuNe Pop
15th Oct 2006, 21:07
You can put those on Aviation History and Nostalgia. It will be good to see them.

Conan the Librarian
15th Oct 2006, 22:45
Great shots, though I have never seen condensation like that before :-) More than something of a Benson and Hedges campaign there, if cig advertising is allowed anywhere this side of hell. Well done.

Conan

AlphaMale
15th Oct 2006, 23:00
Fantastic pictures there!

Same camera as I use for my photography but I can only dream of getting a picture like that - You must enjoy your full time job, if I had the photography skills you have I'd be doing that full time :ok:

Good luck.

Andrew

Dominoe
15th Oct 2006, 23:14
Being a techno thicko I have no idea how to get my pics onto PPRUNE. I have registered with Photobucket and I think I have successfully uploaded some images. I note the PPRUNE Mods advice on posting my pics on Nostalgia and History and thats where I draw a technical blank on actually how to do that. Can anyone help as I would like to share my pics. Nowhere near as good as Ricko (I wish) but worth sharing I believe. Many thanks.

Lazer-Hound
16th Oct 2006, 00:20
Thank you RICKO, those images are awe inspiring.

Lazer, if you squint:suspect: right up close to your monitor I think you can just about make out the RIO providing a "cheery wave" in the extreme close up shot.

ALWAYS assume NEVER check

He (or she!) appears to be waving or saluting, I see now! :ok:

Brian Abraham
16th Oct 2006, 00:39
how about the Squadron / Base Commander awarding the photographer a flight in one of these machines for producing probably the best ground to air photo of the F15 (or probably any FJ) ever.

biddedout has a great sugestion. You RAF types must have the contacts to bring RICKO's work to the attention of the right person/people on the USAF squadron. I just wonder if a phot of a spotter/photographer standing on a rain drenched hill in Wales taken from the back seat of a F-15 would arouse much interest.

Rocky Rhodes
16th Oct 2006, 06:50
Awesome shots Ricko! I'd be looking up some poster publishers. They are truly worthy of hanging on any wall. Keep up the good work.:ok:

Runaway Gun
16th Oct 2006, 08:02
how about the Squadron / Base Commander awarding the photographer a flight in one of these machines for producing probably the best ground to air photo of the F15

You RAF types must have the contacts to bring RICKO's work to the attention of the right person/people on the USAF squadron.

Great idea guys, and I applaud your intentions, however in reality getting a civilian up for a flight in a Fast Jet is very, very difficult. Especially a foreigner (in the case of USAF flying a British civilian). It's hard enough getting recognised aviation professionals up flying with the RAF.

Keep up the great work Ricko :ok:

dakkg651
16th Oct 2006, 09:03
Just seen these superb photos.

Awesome Ricko.

Didn't realise the F15 was steam powered though!

RICKO
16th Oct 2006, 09:55
Good morning all.

Thanks again for the comments.

Do you want to see any more shots, i have plenty more, some of the approaching shots are interesting too.

Cheers Ricko.

Danza
16th Oct 2006, 09:58
I'm sure the answer from all with be a resounding yes, post away.

RICKO
16th Oct 2006, 10:07
I thought as much.

I will do later tonight.

Ricko.

Lazer-Hound
16th Oct 2006, 10:11
Great idea guys, and I applaud your intentions, however in reality getting a civilian up for a flight in a Fast Jet is very, very difficult. Especially a foreigner (in the case of USAF flying a British civilian). It's hard enough getting recognised aviation professionals up flying with the RAF.

Keep up the great work Ricko :ok:

Unless, of course, you are Jeremy Clarkson or Boris Johnson, both of whom have flown in F15's.

Tartan Stazi
16th Oct 2006, 10:40
Ricko

Anymore GR4 shots? preferably 12 or 15 Sqn? :ok:

chevvron
16th Oct 2006, 11:34
AlanM eat yer heart out.

Just one point; some of these guys seem to be flying with helmet visors up; I was always taught keep it down at low level in case of a birdstrike.

callsign Metman
16th Oct 2006, 11:41
Absolutely outstanding!!

RICKO
16th Oct 2006, 12:07
Hi there.
One quick GR4 shot, not too sure of the squadron though.
Ricko.
http://hometown.aol.co.uk/SPEC%20INST/Loop+14.jpg

Vifferpilot
16th Oct 2006, 12:10
AlanM eat yer heart out.

Just one point; some of these guys seem to be flying with helmet visors up; I was always taught keep it down at low level in case of a birdstrike.

That is true and is still the teaching. However, I suspect the crew DO indeed have ONE of their TWO visors down, it's just the one that is up that you can see.

HTH.

Oblique96
16th Oct 2006, 14:14
Quote: 'Unless, of course, you are Jeremy Clarkson or Boris Johnson, both of whom have flown in F15's.'

Farnborough '74, first visit of F 15 (with slipper tanks). Display crew using our crewroom borrowed my G suit for pax trips - 3 airman, one from IAF, cannot remember where other 2 from, had a trip.

All standing by to bid for 'a go' when message from airships (via MOD PE) 'No RAF personnel to be seen anywhere near an F 15'. Apparently political scare that we could start story about possible buy.

Only time I've been jealous of an article of clothing....no, I take that back, there was that pair of fishnet tights.:uhoh:

Runaway Gun
16th Oct 2006, 16:45
I'm prepared to stand corrected.
Especially (as rumour has it) if Ricko might have long blonde hair, and 36DD's.

I hope that he does get airborne sooner rather than later, so he can impress us with his aerial shots.

Chris Kebab
16th Oct 2006, 18:00
Absolutely top pics RICKO, well done lets see more of them!

As to the pod mentioned earlier. Looks like the URITS AIS pod to me - USAFE Rangeless Instrumentation Training System. Pretty standard training fit for numerous USAF aircraft this side of the pond. Similar to RAIDS but has been around a bit longer.

RICKO
16th Oct 2006, 18:41
Hey Runaway.

I can grow long blonde hair easy!
36 DD's may take a little longer....

If that's what it takes, i'll do it.

Ricko.

Max Shutterspeed
16th Oct 2006, 18:49
Well done, Ricko. I make a living shooting cars, not jets and I'd be happy with those for sure.

They're good shots. Make sure that if anyone wants to use them commercially, you get paid. There's plenty of companies out there with budgets for photography, even though you do it for love, take the money!

Prints for aircrew, of course are always freebies, IMHO.

You should show these guys, I bet they'd let you be a member:

http://www.sportsshooter.com/

All the best,

Neill W

RICKO
16th Oct 2006, 19:45
A few more.
Ricko.
http://hometown.aol.co.uk/SPEC%20INST/E+g.jpg
http://hometown.aol.co.uk/SPEC%20INST/E+h.jpg
http://hometown.aol.co.uk/SPEC%20INST/E+j.jpg

airborne_artist
16th Oct 2006, 19:47
Ricko

I'd suggest having a chat with someone like Terry Rumble of http://www.terrane.co.uk/about_us.asp - he's at all the airshows with his stall, and sells to all the sqns. the rest of the year.

Your shots might make a good line for him to sell.

Tartan Stazi
16th Oct 2006, 20:33
Cheers for the GR4 piccy Ricko; not sure of the Sqn either, but it has recently fired a 9L from the port inboard pylon :ok:

Stuff
16th Oct 2006, 22:04
I'm not convinced. Looks like it's still there to me!

ICBM
16th Oct 2006, 22:41
RICKO,

Love the phots. Have you got any Harrier shots? If so, post away....appreciated.

ICBM

RICKO
17th Oct 2006, 09:48
ICBM

I am sure i have.
Will have a look and see what i can do for you.

Ricko.

BattlerBritain
17th Oct 2006, 10:08
What's the purpose of the strange looking device with what can only be described as antenna sticking out of it mounted on the inner launcher on the starboard wing?

ACMI pod - "Air Combat Manoeuvring Instrumentation".

It's a datalink pod to relay the planes height, speed attitude etc to a base station so that everybody can see who was where and did what at the debrief.

Remember the debriefs in Top Gun ("Gutsiest move I ever saw")? That's what's it's used for.

Vifferpilot
17th Oct 2006, 12:58
Isn't it a RAIDS pod? Similar to ACMI, but no ground receiver. All pods talk to each other, passing ht/speed/AoA/AoB/Hdg etc so when you are back on the ground, you can replay your mission as if you were in an ACMI range.

Chris Kebab
17th Oct 2006, 14:14
And there was me thinking I was being helpful identifying it as a URITS pod on the previous page! It's definately not a RAIDS pod which as far as I know has never been flown on an F-15. Very confusing the proliferation of these AIS (Airborne Instrumentation Sub-system) pods: ACMI, RAIDS, URITS, KITS, ACT-R, NACTS, ACTS with BGT, EHUD, MLM, P4 series, etc, etc the list goes on.

I recall someone telling me there were nine different systems, not like NATO to fail to get to grips with a standard system! Still, preferable to being stuck in a bubble over the North Sea I suppose.

Flap62
17th Oct 2006, 15:01
It's not a RAIDS pod is it?


Sorry, couldn't resist.

RICKO
17th Oct 2006, 15:47
A few harrier shots as requested.
Ricko.
http://hometown.aol.co.uk/SPEC%20INST/harrier+1.jpg
http://hometown.aol.co.uk/SPEC%20INST/L+1.jpg
http://hometown.aol.co.uk/SPEC%20INST/L+2.jpg
http://hometown.aol.co.uk/SPEC%20INST/L+3.jpg

Mercyman
17th Oct 2006, 17:09
Could anybody tell me some good spots to see aircraft down and dirty and mid / s wales

Danza
17th Oct 2006, 19:27
Best info website going, enjoy

http://www.lowfly.net/18.html

ICBM
18th Oct 2006, 00:20
Cheers RICKO, appreciate your work.

:D :D :D :ok:

groundhugger
18th Oct 2006, 07:56
Ricko
Good to see your pictures going down a storm mate!
Dont want to Hijack your moment Ricko but just put a link here for the gent looking for a 12sqn Gr4 low level if thats ok?
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1097418/M/
Cheers
R
(the northern brigade :) )

BattlerBritain
18th Oct 2006, 10:35
Chris Kebab,

Sorry m8, didn't see your reply.

Must have been distracted by some cracking pictures :)

Dan Gerous
18th Oct 2006, 20:22
Stuff, just about to dive in with the same comment, but noticed the weathering on the tailplane. Solves a mystery for me, as I thought it may have been due to the airflow off the tanks.

MR12
21st Oct 2006, 13:07
Just seen these superb photos.
Awesome Ricko.
Didn't realise the F15 was steam powered though!


Pity the poor sod hanging on under the wings and shovelling coal into it then.

MR12
21st Oct 2006, 13:10
Hey Runaway.
I can grow long blonde hair easy!
36 DD's may take a little longer....
If that's what it takes, i'll do it.
Ricko.

I recommend the lager and deep fried Mars bar diet. Two weeks on that and you'll pass for Boris Johnson easy, right down to the 36DDs.

RICKO
5th Nov 2006, 13:13
Back from the States last week.
Not as good as Wales with the Eagle but a few nice images just the same.
Ricko.
http://hometown.aol.co.uk/SPEC%20INST/TB+1.jpg
http://hometown.aol.co.uk/SPEC%20INST/J+1.jpg
http://hometown.aol.co.uk/SPEC%20INST/J+2.jpg
http://hometown.aol.co.uk/SPEC%20INST/J+4.jpg
http://hometown.aol.co.uk/SPEC%20INST/J+5.jpg

Faithless
5th Nov 2006, 20:26
Got any fast and furious Helicopters :bored: ?

spectre150
6th Nov 2006, 08:50
Blue Angels phot - 2 x 2 -seaters in the 4-ship. Oh and they are both number 7. Rather odd isnt it?

RICKO
6th Nov 2006, 09:53
Faithless.
Will have a look and let you know.

spectre150

Well spotted.

The two 2 seaters were used on the friday during the practices for media rides, i believe.
We got a ride in the Fat Albert on the friday afternoon during it's practice display.

Ricko.

Dogwatch
7th Nov 2006, 18:13
Ricko, please check your personal messages.

DW

forget
8th Nov 2006, 09:57
Does anyone know what the F-15 markings indicate, left-side upper intakes, forward? Looks like an elongated shovel.

diginagain
8th Nov 2006, 10:02
I'm no expert on the type, but could it be the refuelling recepticle?

brickhistory
8th Nov 2006, 10:05
I'm no expert on the type, but could it be the refuelling recepticle?

Got it in one, sir. 'Tis the refueling recepticle marking.

diginagain
8th Nov 2006, 10:06
Very kind, Sir. Thought it would have to be there or thereabouts, since there's a hulking great airbrake on the spine, isn't there?

forget
8th Nov 2006, 10:10
Well done - spot on :ok:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b270/cumpas/F-15.jpg

RICKO
21st Nov 2006, 17:53
Evening all.
Sorry for keeping this thread going but i thought you may be interested in the following comments that i have had regarding the Eagle photo's.
These were sent to me in a presentation that someone had done and has been all around the Eagle community.
I have had several e mails from Boeing on the subject aslo, with one comment coming from an engineer last night.
Stunning is certainly the right word to use. The interesting part for me is the change in flow viz patterns on the upper wing as angle of attack changes. I've been working F-15 aerodynamics for 20+ years and have never seen such a clear representation of the airflow as your photos. Just from these four photos I've got a much better understanding of the flowfield around the jet.
These are the points made.
http://hometown.aol.co.uk/SPEC%20INST/f15flowviz01.jpg
1. Condensation indicates regions of high velocity low pressure air flow.
2. F15 is at high sub sonic mac, but relatively low AOA.
( No flow separation on wing )
3. Tanks / missiles on wing pilons seem to have some influence on flow over wing. More pronounced on left hand wing for some reason?
4. Wing tips appear deflected up due to high load factor.
http://hometown.aol.co.uk/SPEC%20INST/f15flowviz02.jpg
1. Higher AOA than photo no 1. ( regions of flow separation on wing starting to become visible)
2. Effect of wing tanks / missiles more noticeable.
3. No separation on outer wing panels ( lower local AOA due to conical wing twist.)
4. Small tight vortices emanating from inlet lips.
5. Vortex from left hand wing root extension barely visible.
6. Lack of vortex on right hand wing root extension. ( Effect of Gun Port? )
http://hometown.aol.co.uk/SPEC%20INST/f15flowviz03.jpg
1. Similar characteristics as photo no 2.
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1. Higher AOA than photo's 2 & 3. ( More flow separation visible on wing.)
2. Larger well defined vortices emanating from both inboard and outboard inlet lips.
Right hand outboard inlet lip vortex dissipated further forward than left hand vortex. ( Effect of Gun louver exhaust? )
3. Vortex emanating from left hand wing route extension weaker, less well defined than vortex from inlet lip.
Smooth, rounded OML as compared to sharp inlet lip.
4. Lack of vortex on right hand wing route extension ( Effect of Gun port? )
I do hope this is of interest to you and will let you know of any further developments.
Still not had a flight though !!
Hard enough job trying to get into a tanker to photograph them.
Cheers Ricko.

forget
21st Nov 2006, 20:31
That's impressive Ricko. If you don't get a Boeing F-15 ride out of this then my dic..................never mind.

Safeware
21st Nov 2006, 22:02
Ricko, aircraft dynamics isn't my thing, so I could be way off here but re #1 3. Tanks / missiles on wing pilons seem to have some influence on flow over wing. More pronounced on left hand wing for some reason?
Could be due to the AMRAAM on that side vs the winder and pod on the other?


sw

GreenKnight121
23rd Nov 2006, 12:42
Interesting on the Hornets... the lighting highlights are different on the 2 #7s, as is the fading of the paint... could be they had just got one back from repair and the home crew had painted it with the wrong number (should have been #6 I believe)?
:bored:

spannermonkey
23rd Nov 2006, 14:57
Does anyone know what the F-15 markings indicate, left-side upper intakes, forward? Looks like an elongated shovel.

I'm pretty sure it's the inflight refuel point.

RICKO, Awasome shots:ok:, I'm also a photog (20D + grip + 70-2002.8 IS) in what spare time I have. I have to say that your shots are poss the best I have ever seen. Clean, un-clutterred and pin sharp with outstanding panning. I would be very proud of them If I were you.

Looks like I need to plan a trip to Wales myself, any tips on the best vantage points most welcome (have also had a look at lowfly.net).

Keep up the work, and as the rest say any more pics to show!!

Polikarpov
23rd Nov 2006, 15:43
Ricko, has any of the correspondence you've received to date indicate the guys in that Eagle are aware of their unwitting internet fame?

RICKO
23rd Nov 2006, 16:00
Afternoon.
Spannermonkey.
I'll send you a pm.
Polikarpov.
I know they are aware of the GLOBAL interest but not too sure if they have seen this thread on hear.I will pass on a link as it would be good to get some feedback from the 'inside' so to speak.
Ricko.

MightyGem
23rd Nov 2006, 16:20
Good on you Ricko. Nice to see someone getting recognised for good, no make that outstanding work!! :ok:

RICKO
12th Dec 2006, 16:59
Many thanks for all the comments about the Eagle shots.
May i take this opportunity to wish you all a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
To all of you who are away over the festive season , GOD BLESS and be safe.
Regards Richard.
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