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The flying nut
8th Oct 2006, 11:53
(And can a 747 land, and take off again, at Bournemouth? If so, that should have been an option)

I have found a video of a 747 takeing off from Bournemouth. (Quite impressive).:ok:

http://www.flightlevel350.com/Aircraft_Boeing_747-200-Airline_European_Aviation_Aviation_Video-2164.html

tribekey
8th Oct 2006, 19:02
are you sure that's bournemouth,if it is he broke the noise abatement routeing.difficult to see the runway designator but from the trees in the background it looks like runway 26 departure(if it's bournemouth at all), he should have turned right afer 500' , not a screaming left turn.

hobie
8th Oct 2006, 19:38
validity of the video can be crossed checked.

quote ...."

aircraft : Boeing 747-200

Airline : European Aviation

This was the first 747 passenger flight from Bournemouth Airport, UK. The destination was New York and the flight was operated by the airline European. Bournemouth has a short runway so this was an incredibly dramatic take off for the 747. Listen for a guy in the background saying "its not gunna make it!" just as it's reaching the end of the runway.


Bournemouth - (EGHH / BOH) Hurn International

November 18, 2002"

Groundloop
9th Oct 2006, 09:08
difficult to see the runway designator but from the trees in the background it looks like runway 26 departure(if it's bournemouth at all), he should have turned right afer 500' , not a screaming left turn.

There is no displaced threshold on the near end of the runway so it is definitely a 08 departure (film shot from Matchams Lane) so the turn would be to the left towards Ringwood.

squawkident.
10th Oct 2006, 13:13
Hi-sorry if this has already been dicussed on here, but I was wondering if anybody knew any good suppliers or names of any decent cockpit/airplane documentary type films.

Ive seen an advert from ITVV for their VS classic 747 but its a bit pricey at Ģ21.99.
Does anybody know of any other similar films or sources I could buy from?
Ive looked on Amazon but I coudn't find anything.
Much appreciated,
SIdent.

BOAC
10th Oct 2006, 14:24
These may help?
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=202124

http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=161919

hobie
10th Oct 2006, 21:08
try this Google search .......

http://www.google.ie/search?hl=en&q=cockpit++videos&meta=

hughesyd
18th Oct 2006, 20:42
Forgive me if this is old news , but i dont know if any of you have seen this unbeleivable footage. Citation off the end of the runway and into a lake at Atlantic city after landing downwind, pilot blames brake failure!. Everyone gets out, just in time for one of the engines to spool up again and it goes off on a trip round the lake!. am i the only one who has never seen this??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V06LBgfuxgA&eurl=

PaperTiger
18th Oct 2006, 20:54
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=248267 :zzz: :zzz: :zzz:

BOAC
18th Oct 2006, 21:03
am i the only one who has never seen this??
- possibly!:)

BOAC
19th Oct 2006, 10:59
.... no, I've found another one!:)

aerotransport.org
8th Nov 2006, 13:35
So you all want to see engine explosion, aborted takeoff after v1 and hyper-efficient fire service ? Check
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX_yB3mKdUg&NR
Believed to be Tu-134A '05' of Russian Navy on 10jul06 at Simferopol-Gvardeyskoye AB, Ukraine.
6 crew + 14 pax (top staff of the Black Sea fleet). Only 3 pax slightly injured.
/ATDB

hobie
8th Nov 2006, 14:00
Have to say I'm amazed anyone got out ......

but thankfully they all did ....

ASN has some details ....

http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=20060710-1&lang=en

oceancrosser
8th Nov 2006, 14:45
Hmmm...
Seems they got airborne, and then aborted?

Pretty much against the whole book isnīt it. Small wonder the went off the runway. Really lucky not having been killed all of them.

o/c

Fish Out of Water
8th Nov 2006, 18:56
Are there any known Vr cuts apart from this one on russian a/c that made it off the ground? Worrying that it must have been well below max tow and they had to abort in that fashion - just makes you thankful that Mr Boeing and Monsieur Airbus (the latter to a lesser extent, A340-200 hmm - no curvature of the earth comments now) provide more than enough power for the airframe! :D

Two's in
8th Nov 2006, 22:28
In 1998 this HS 748 lost the right engine (explosively) immediately after rotation at night and the Capt put it back down on the runway at STN with no injuries and the AAIB found it to be a "sensible" decision.

http://www.aaib.dft.gov.uk/sites/aaib/cms_resources/dft_avsafety_pdf_502888.pdf

TotalBeginner
8th Nov 2006, 23:27
It's strange because they were well into the rotation, but it just didn't seem to get off the ground.

Sqwak7700
9th Nov 2006, 03:59
I would love to hear any comments on the CFR response. What a bunch of dingbats! It seems like their equipment is not working while the plane burns to a crisp. No need to get the recorders...I'm sure some "general" investigator knew the cause a few minutes later while talking to the media.

I'm really glad that no one was trapped or injured and unable to escape the wreckage. They would have surely burnt to a crisp. Just goes to show how quickly a plane can burn to a pile of smoldering molten metal.

On another note, I don't think I'll be flying on a russian jet anytime soon. I don't know if it the manufacturing/maintenance/training, but they crash more often than windows. How about that late abort? Not faulting the crew, maybe they felt the plane wouldn't fly. Is it me or does it look like the plane actually gets airborne and then touches down shortly after? I thought I saw tire smoke, then again it could be the wheels locking up in an attempt to stop the beast. Do those things have anti-lock brakes?? Yikes.

Loose rivets
9th Nov 2006, 04:37
It looks as though the captain may have thought about continuing the t/o, then finding a whole slew of reasons why it wouldn't be a good idea...then finding even more reasons why it wasn't stopping as expected.

Come to think of it, it really wasn't showing much gusto in the first place given the low pax load.

Paolo de Angelis
9th Nov 2006, 15:09
Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems to me they took off with no flaps-slats?

In this case that's why the plane didn't get airborne after v1. It seems the pilot pulled, but despite the pitch up the airplane stayed on the ground.

fox niner
9th Nov 2006, 15:58
Look again....

They did get airborne, you can see the tyres smokin' due to the landing. Look closely, at 1 minute and 35 seconds into the film.

Loose rivets
9th Nov 2006, 16:05
Look again....
They did get airborne, you can see the tyres smokin' due to the landing. Look closely, at 1 minute and 35 seconds into the film.

Yeh, but there is airborne and airborne. One where you know that it's going to stagger into the sky, and one where you're damn sure it won't.

admiral ackbar
9th Nov 2006, 18:43
It looks as though the captain may have thought about continuing the t/o, then finding a whole slew of reasons why it wouldn't be a good idea...then finding even more reasons why it wasn't stopping as expected.

Come to think of it, it really wasn't showing much gusto in the first place given the low pax load.

Yeah that take-off roll looked very long to me, but it may be normal for that aircraft.

tilewood
9th Nov 2006, 19:00
Posted on Flight Group the runway was 3000m, 10000ft in length.

Even before the loss of the engine, it appeared to take a mighty long run to rotate, if as reported there were only fourteen pax on board.

uffington sb
9th Nov 2006, 20:16
So what happened to the Fire Department. A bloke driving a tractor and towing a black and white chequred caravan got there before they did. And when they eventually showed up, it looked like they'd come straight off the set of Trumpton!

TheSailor
9th Nov 2006, 21:06
Hello,

First class firefighting team..... :uhoh:
I like see one of them playing with a 5kg or so like fire extinguisher...:rolleyes:
Hope it's no the same team who will came if I make a emergency call in case of house at fire.... :}

Regards. http://photobucket.com/albums/v509/Bebermaur/th_bye.gif

Flap15Geardown
9th Nov 2006, 21:41
Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems to me they took off with no flaps-slats?

In this case that's why the plane didn't get airborne after v1. It seems the pilot pulled, but despite the pitch up the airplane stayed on the ground.

Don't get slats on a Tu134, or 154 come to that, and they dont use much flap at lighter loads. Probably put it back down again as the chances of getting out of it were higher that way, lose one engine and the second takes you to the scene of the accident:(

The late XV105
17th Nov 2006, 01:04
Timelapse: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_YECJcfWko

touch&go
29th Dec 2006, 21:09
Go the video on my PC so will workout how to sent in to you, big file

hobie
29th Dec 2006, 21:14
if T&G's very kind offer doesn't work out do a Google with the words ..... concorde farewell video ..... you will find lots of info .... :ok:

touch&go
29th Dec 2006, 21:39
Just uploading it to my BT Vault and will post a link to it soon, first time I have done a video to the Vault.

mcgoo
12th Jan 2007, 15:06
I received this as an email:

http://www.bluesky.se/?dnode=29

click on film down the bottom right, a Saab Gripen display filmed in HD

apologies if repost

Kestrel_909
18th Jan 2007, 21:45
...And the award for the best take-off of the day...

...Goes to the Paris-bound 146 at EGBB departing from runway 15-33 today, seen by millions on BBC TV National News.



Available here by clicking near top right, about 90seconds into the video.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6272193.stm

AltFlaps
19th Jan 2007, 10:26
Hi All,

Wondering if anyone has come across any video yet from yesterday's little nightmare ... I'm especially interested in any from BHX.

I was flying, so I know how rough it was inside the airplane - but I'd like to see how it looked from outside the airplane ...

Thanks in advance

AF

trident3A
19th Jan 2007, 10:38
I found this rather hairy-looking 146 departure on the BBC website (about 2/3 of the way through the report)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/avdb/news/video/74000/bb/74596_16x9_bb.ram

lexxity
19th Jan 2007, 12:12
That take off at BHX was pretty hairy! Would like to see the one from MAN too. I was on duty yesterday at EGCC and it was a pig. The vast majority of pax were total stars who holed up and waited it out, undestanding that we didn't have definite information.

Going loco
19th Jan 2007, 21:07
Not from yesterday, but worth a look. FlyBE 146 going round from zero feet after (what looks to be) a pretty nasty gust on, or just prior, to touchdown.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTxCUcPY734&mode=related&search=

ATIS31
20th Jan 2007, 15:39
Hi all
Just wondered if anybody has the complete series of programs on
video of the Airport 90 series which was on TV 1990 going back a
bit i know !:eek: It was a behind the scenes look at Gatwick
Airport. I Was looking for a copy if anyone has it ?
Thanks

Matty J
20th Jan 2007, 15:55
Some interesting shots and Videos here, anyone have anymore??

I work at EGSS but was on a day off when the storm hit. Colleagues tell me only 1 in 6 A/C were landing on first attempt and there were some rather rough approaches to say the least!

Please share anymore images/Videos!:D :D

Matt.:ok:

Ray Ban
21st Jan 2007, 11:59
Anyone got the video link for that citation landing at MAN on Thursday afternoon? Apparently had a big wing drop close to the ground but landed safely.

badboy raggamuffin
19th Feb 2007, 12:28
Plus the captain isnt even wearing his glasses. Disgraceful.

gijoe
19th Feb 2007, 14:09
That's what I like about being part of Europe - standardisation.....

rallymania
19th Feb 2007, 14:45
ok opening myself for some verbal here i'm sure...

as a trainee ppl with a whopping 4hours (yeah i know, i'll be captain by next week:rolleyes: ) in my log book, i've done longer finals in a trainer than this guy did. is this common for visual approaches? or just because it's a quieter airport.

what's the shortest final run you've done with SLF's onboard?

BlueVolta
19th Feb 2007, 15:07
A very nice CRM, it seems to be friendly...
This an old fashion cockpit, I do not think they still fly the 727 in JAT, so this was probably somekind of farewell flight...

Cityliner
19th Feb 2007, 15:16
There are still some flyable B727 standing around in LYBE!
Don't know the companys name but i recently saw them there!
So guess this Video is not to old

Max Angle
19th Feb 2007, 15:24
Skippers not wearing his shoulder straps either but hey, it's a nice day, no traffic around, a nice easy visual approach and they all seem to know what they are doing and I don't think anything got missed. I would be happy to sit behind those three I think.

saffron
19th Feb 2007, 15:50
I used to fly with these guys who freelanced for my cargo airline,very well trained but Captains had autocratic CRM,F/E's were very good,however used to make their own hooch (legal in Serbia as long as your still is government inspected)that made your eyes water!

barit1
19th Feb 2007, 16:17
rallymania asks -
what's the shortest final run you've done with SLF's onboard?
I was DC-9 pax on a very short rwy change at KBOS (http://www.fltplan.com/AirportInformation/BOS.htm) - 04R to 33 - the "final" was essentially zero length, we weren't "wings level" until over the numbers.
Also rode a RJ TriStar into AMM 08R (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_Alia_International_Airport)with essentially zero final after a military-style 180 from downwind.
Great hand-flying in VFR both cases - not sure how the authorities approve, but obvious skill level and a fine treat for me! :D :D

dessertdude
19th Feb 2007, 16:17
very decent job IMHO! don,t see the fuss, what is MCC anyway?

vapilot2004
19th Feb 2007, 16:20
That 727 probably came from the factory with an ashtray in the cockpit.

Back in the day, a lack of same may have been a no go item. :}

Eirefly
19th Feb 2007, 16:23
Well the amount of British and American pilots getting stung for being drunk is hell of alot more than what these guys are doing.
Oh the PNF is having a smoke....oh and god forbid they made a joke aswell.

d192049d
19th Feb 2007, 16:48
Nice to see the visual approach being flown with hands & feet [stick & rudder] as opposed to the thumb & forefinger. :D

How often does this still happen? I could imagine autopilot still in until aircraft intercepting the glideslope and a five mile final [not two max as in this case] in your typical approach in most airlines these days.

Captain Greaser
19th Feb 2007, 17:54
Nice landing!!!!!

Slats One
19th Feb 2007, 18:13
Casual it may be, but its real flying. Proper hand -eye -foot co-ordination, and real Boeing three holer technique- a nice curving descent with no steps in the descent, application of power to stop it getting low and slow, and pop her down.

There wasn't a glitch in that descent profile- was there?

Knock it if you want too, but its called airmanship - if a little lax on the Imperial Airways approach checks minima list old boy.

The computer stick 25 year olds have no idea what they missed.

YesTAM
19th Feb 2007, 18:22
I swear that many years ago I saw a DC9 Captain taxiing for departure with a cigarette in hand, arm out the window, and the ADF tuned to the horse racing. It was a beautiful day.

fireflybob
19th Feb 2007, 18:32
Reminds me of flying with a respected training captain many years ago on b737-200 on an empty ferry from ltn to lgw. As we levelled at 4,000 ft qnh for the short flight he lit up his pipe whilst still hand flying with an apparent ease and accuracy that I shall never forget!

skan
19th Feb 2007, 18:51
I am a non-smoker, however I have noticed that the smoking captains usually are very competent pilots. If there is any specific reason for this,
I dont know.

barit1
19th Feb 2007, 18:52
With a good stable 30s-40s aircraft, BAE (before autopilot era), minor course corrections in cruise could be made hands-off, only rudder used.

I've seen so many recent trainees (& their instructors) who try to drive an aeroplane around like a car, very poor coordination in turns. Tri-gear will forgive this when landing, but not a taildragger! :ugh:

Airbubba
19th Feb 2007, 19:06
With a good stable 30s-40s aircraft, BAE (before autopilot era), minor course corrections in cruise could be made hands-off, only rudder used.

Well, these days I think I'd keep my feet off the rudders in cruise, especially if it's an Airbus. :)

There wasn't a glitch in that descent profile- was there?

There was a GPWS "Glide Slope" alert on final, ducking under even on a visual is somewhat frowned upon these days most places.

This was how it was done a couple of decades ago in the U.S. in the '72, casual chitchat, smoking, an extra body up front for the landing. Some operators didn't use checklists much, others were more into the procedures than flying the plane.

Things are more formal and a lot safer now I suppose...

lasernigel
20th Feb 2007, 12:34
Where has the link gone for that JAT video...seems to have disappeared?:confused:

BOAC
20th Feb 2007, 12:46
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=1488963970796657726&hl=en-GB

Dug it out of the dustbin into which it went after the 'issues' between 'managment' and some posters before the thread was dumped here.:p

Let's all stay cool..........................:ok:

oceancrosser
20th Feb 2007, 13:45
Hey thanks for that JAT video, got a flashback to my days as a F/O in a 3 crew cockpit, never flew the 727 though. Although I donīt understand a word in the Serbian language, I really understand the camaraderie involved. A couple of captains flying together, which does not happen all that often.
It is a flashback to a different era, but I occasionally am lucky enough to fly either left or right hand seat with some of my mates from days gone by. And I really enjoy it.

haughtney1
9th Mar 2007, 13:44
A pretty cool video here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu7FOcKeA3c)

something that may interest you spotter types :ok:

rotornut
13th Mar 2007, 14:25
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e7f_1173779861

oldlag53
14th Mar 2007, 08:44
wow...neither the commentator nor the spectators seem very upset about the accident...

is it just me or can you hear the engine 'coughing' a second or so beforehand??

Crossbleed
22nd May 2007, 09:38
Anyone seen a short film clip with John Malkovich, a Ju-52 and a couple of spitfires??
You'll know it if you've ever seen it. Trolled YouTube but no joy...

metar
27th May 2007, 11:20
A couple of friends have told me that there is a Flight Deck Dornier 328 documentary which is shown on National Geographic channels from time to time.

I fly the machine and would love to get a copy. I've done the normal online searches to no avail.

If anyone knows how I can get a copy in any format it would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance!

clifftop
27th May 2007, 11:36
It was an often repeated prog on Discovery Wings IIRC.

It might be worth sending an email to the Discovery producers.


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cavortingcheetah
27th May 2007, 11:48
:hmm:
Alternatively you could contact Knightrider, CP at Suckling. If he knows not, then perhaps the Schoolmaster can help you.:)

ExRAFRadar
12th Jul 2007, 17:11
would I like to have been on that 757

http://youtube.com/watch?v=pRP_zKsDI_o&mode=related&search=

Apologies if it has been seen before

Avman
12th Jul 2007, 19:11
Whilst definitely not quite in that league, I once many moons ago enjoyed the next best thing (without the turn mind) on the jumpseat of a very light (Orion Airways) B737-300 positioning from Manchester to Birmingham. I think that my professional matter-of-fact comment to the skipper at the time was, "f*** me"! :)

darrylj
17th Aug 2007, 20:19
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f2c_1187371516&p=1
:uhoh:

i thought TCAS would of helped there :eek:

HEATHROW DIRECTOR
17th Aug 2007, 20:33
Maybe the flying object didn't have SSR, in which case TCAS would not function.

treadigraph
18th Aug 2007, 00:03
Seen it before and led to believe it's real - Kabul?

Silver Tongued Cavalier
28th Sep 2007, 22:32
http://www.metacafe.com/w/746851/

Check out this video, anyone been in there??? :eek:

Crusty Ol Cap'n
29th Sep 2007, 08:29
You say no margin for error, I say no margin!:}

tightcircuit
29th Sep 2007, 12:57
This video has been discussed very extensively before. The thread should still be available somewhere.

cloudskimmer
1st Oct 2007, 16:44
i have a copy of the 328 video send a address and i will gladly send :ok:

trident3A
13th Nov 2007, 14:42
Apologies if this has been posted before, interesting 1950s short film about the building of Heathrow.

http://www.leechvideo.com/video/view2683398.html

Cheers!

GearDown&Locked
9th Jan 2008, 13:58
AA 757 landing at Tegucigalpa-Toncontin Airport (TGU/MHTG) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLDBgwrh6qs&NR=1). :eek:

Though final approach, touchdown on the mark, very nice work from this crew :D Engineering must have to remove bushes from landing gear every landing there.

BTW Is this airport "legal" for this type of a/c?

misd-agin
9th Jan 2008, 14:05
Do you think they land there 'illegally'?

It's been done every day for years.

LHR_777
9th Jan 2008, 14:07
AA has flown 757's into TGU for years. Surely they would not be there if it was not 'legal'?

exlatccatsa
15th Feb 2008, 09:17
As the original thread has been closed, I thought I'd start another with this youtube I've just found of a lighthouse approach to RW 33 at Sumburgh...It really brings back the memories!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lz5_7gXkqgs

enjoy!!:)

Doors to Automatic
18th Feb 2008, 22:10
We have all seen the video of the 747 taking a hit at Osaka but I uncovered this video of a Qantas plane near Sydney which is even more dramatic. Looks like a very powerful bolt; must have made a hell of a bang!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=036hpBvjoQw&feature=related

flyhardmo
19th Feb 2008, 00:56
Impressive. That was one hell of a strike.

L G Double-Yew
6th Mar 2008, 20:05
Stunning Air Southwest video footage here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Upe_-CXjJcw

Enjoy!!

Dogma
6th Mar 2008, 20:14
Pretty average camera work, looks like the helo could not keep get in the right positions, too slow?

How excited can you get over a Dash 8... next!

L G Double-Yew
6th Mar 2008, 20:21
But the scenery is rather lovely!

Jonny Foreigner
6th Mar 2008, 20:28
The West country.:) Gods own design!