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Shaggy Sheep Driver
3rd Oct 2006, 22:10
Inspired by the 'favorite car' thread, what is the worst car you have owned. Not worst because it was old and knackered (even good cars get to that stage eventually), but a car that was just intrisically a load of [email protected]

For me it's a close call between two cars I had from new. A VW Beetle 1200 (my first ever car, new in 1970), and an Austin Montego, a company car I had in the '80s. The VW was unreliable, rusted, had dangerous handling, and was just nasty to drive. The Montego was badly made, poorly designed, and made me weep just to look at it. I hated it for what it represented - the very worst (bar, perhaps, the Allegro the pleasure of which I never had) of British car design. An example of how poorly thought out it was?.... It had electrically adjustable door mirrors; but the adjuster was on the RH side of the dash, so you had to lean over to reach it, and could not look into the mirrors while addjusting them. :rolleyes:

Your worst?

Air-Geko
3rd Oct 2006, 22:23
1982 Chevrolet Cavalier. Some brilliant engineer decided the transmission gears should be held to the shaft with nylon pins. Of course, they sheared off with little provocation. I drive into the dealership service garage (fortunately only three blocks away). The motor is just singing while the car is going 5mph... "Heh, throttle is stuck isn't it" service manager asks. "Nope," I replied, "that was third gear!"

Solid Rust Twotter
3rd Oct 2006, 22:33
BMW

Alfa Romeo

Mr Lexx
3rd Oct 2006, 22:38
Mine was a 1998 Renault Laguna. I have never known a car with so many electrical gremlims. It really was a case of "if it hasn't gone wrong yet, it will soon". The timing belt failed within 500 miles of ownership, requiring £600 of work.

Bloody hated that car.

Upshot of it was that my sister "gave" it to me. Turns out it was still on finance.....got repo'd after 18 months. They got £600 for it at auction!

gingernut
3rd Oct 2006, 22:42
MGB GT

sweet&sour:bored:

Sweet looking, sour road holding:)

ormus55
3rd Oct 2006, 22:55
so many to list, so little time.

White Hart
3rd Oct 2006, 23:00
Austin Allegro - it wasn't known as the 'All Aggro' for nothing :mad: - and we won't mention the square-ish steering wheel! :eek:

Earthmover
3rd Oct 2006, 23:01
Talbot Horizon :yuk: :yuk: :yuk: purchased by my ex-wife ( :yuk: ) It was the most odious, smelly and unreliable vehicle I have ever had the misfortune to be associated with. Even the kids hated it.

Buster Hyman
3rd Oct 2006, 23:07
http://www.leftlaneimports.com/images/photos/fj_cruiser_inventory.jpg

(Jerricho said he was too busy to post on this thread, so I did it for him!):ok:

ShyTorque
3rd Oct 2006, 23:13
SSD,
"An example of how poorly thought out it was?...."
But YOU bought one, new? How poorly thought out was that?, LOL ;)

My worst car? A 1997 Toyota Previa! Kept it four years and it never reached one of its 9,000 mile services with out dealer attention to an engine management problem. It was returned at least ten times officially (fully documented) and a number of times unofficially. Sometimes it cut out driving it away from the dealership when they said it was definitely cured, this time, sir..... :ugh:

Always the same problem - as far as I know, it was never cured. I just gave up in the end. Sold it to a dealer and vowed NEVER to cross the step of a Toyota dealership again.

Did someone say BMW? In a year of ownership THREE light bulbs have failed. I replaced them myself, in about five minutes each. Quality control isn't what it used to be... mind you, everything else is great.

G-CPTN
3rd Oct 2006, 23:15
MGB GT
sweet&sour:bored:
Sweet looking, sour road holding:)
You should have tried the MGC! That 6-cylinder lump in the nose ensured it went as straight as an arrow, particularly around corners.


MY worst vehicles? Sunbeam Rapier Series III that regularly ran its big-ends every time it was 'opened-up' - apart from the time it punched a con-rod out through the side of the crankcase. The replacement engine STILL ran its big ends!
Then I had a NEW Vauxhall Chevette Estate that came from the factory with a split fuel tank, allowing an inch of petrol to collect under the rear load platform. The engine would either start - or not. It spent more time being recovered from my home on a trailer for engine modifications (none of which worked). And THEN the paintwork 'pimpled' all over. Now that WAS a 'Friday' car! The saving grace (if any) was that it was a lease car . . .

There were a few bangers that I never managed to bring back from disaster (a Renault 750 with perpetually leaking wet-liners sticks in the mind), but to include those wouldn't be fair.
I also had some remarkable successes - an ex-safe-gang getaway Jaguar MkI (white of course) bought from the Police pound. All the interior walnut was stripped of its varnish by the fingerprint powder. Even raced that at Silverstone! A Ford Anglia van purchased in a pub from a Ford Dealer (it had been their parts-delivery van). I ran it for ages, it NEVER failed to start, NEVER let me down, and I sold it for more than I paid for it (£50 from £30).

PSOI the Morris Marina was an 'uprated' Morris Minor. The chassis was greatly over-stressed. The Morris Ital was a facelifted Marina (or Marriner as they were known when the front lever-arm shockabsorbers inevitably wore out.)
The later Austin Montiebogey (Montego) was an even further development with appallingly crap engine electronics (we had them on the fleet and had to have six to keep five serviceable). However the diesel versions were EXTREMELY economical.

click
3rd Oct 2006, 23:27
Mercury Bobcat, passed down from the stepmother who couldn't stand the little [email protected]#tbox. It was brown, had no power whatsoever and one felt like a turd driving it. Thankfully, while I was away doing something usefull for a few weeks during the summer, my dad lent it to a visiting relative who promptly seized the engine. Guess he wasn't used to 'check the fuel and fill the oil' at the local gas station.

ShyTorque
3rd Oct 2006, 23:27
Once had an RAF fleet car turbo-diesel Montego run away with me on the German Autobahn. At 70 mph it suddenly took off, full power! Got it stopped, checked it over, tried again. At 70 mph, it ran to full power.....

This time we checked it more carefully. The air filter intake assembly was loose inside the grille. The air pressure in front of the car at 70 mph was sufficient to push the assembly back onto the fuel pump cable, opening it fully as if the throttle pedal was floored!

The car had just been serviced, say no more.

Jerricho
3rd Oct 2006, 23:28
They don't come in green, jackass. :p

BOFH
3rd Oct 2006, 23:36
Triumph Stag - had to drive seven miles home rather than two from work because idle=overheat. 15 mpg (I get 18 from my Daimler Double Six with almost twice the fuel capacity) - leaky roof, power steering, and anything else with fluid in it. Rear drums from Kiwi tins. Great looking rims which required painstaking hours to clean. Shoddy interior except for the wooden dash.

On the other hand, lovely lines, and with 4.4 litres retrofitted could certainly bring a smile to the face when opened up. In my dotage I could have afforded to fix all the annoyances, but I was at University at the time.

BOFH

AcroChik
3rd Oct 2006, 23:40
I didn't own the car, it was borrowed from an artist who lived up in Northland, New Zealand, so this might not qualify...

A Niva 4X4 ~ sort of a Jeep-like concoction. It had a clutch so stiff it took all my might to put it into reverse. Just for fun I pushed in the cigarette lighter and the entire assembly went right through the panel. It was baby-poop yellowish brown (I've never seen a car painted an uglier color). It was as thirsty as a sailer on 24-hour shore leave. The seats were built by whoever designed inquisition-era torture devices. It was loud and rattled. Once, driving from Kawakawa to Opua, a tail light simply fell off onto the road. But, the heater was amazing; you could have boiled water. It was built in the Soviet Union.

HowlingWind
3rd Oct 2006, 23:45
German Ford Capri, circa 1973. The timing chains had a way of bugging up after 40K miles or so. Once limped one back home on the shoulder for nearly 60 miles -- err, a three hour trip!

But then weren't most cars built in the 70s pretty much raw shite? (Japanese excepted, of course.)

TBirdFrank
4th Oct 2006, 00:13
A black 1979 Range Rover - looked the doggies danglys, but when we spotted that without the engine running it showed 60lbs oil pressure we smelled a rat.

Took it to my R Rover specialist who went under it, came out and pronounced - "Sell it!" He would never tell me why, but off it went - into the trade - I wonder what it was?

I bought a Cherokee in 1995 - stil got it - expensive toy especially when something breaks, but Iwould rather have it than a Rangey any day

planepsycho
4th Oct 2006, 00:28
I hate to even admit this, but I owned a 1972 Ford Pinto. This car lived up to it's "Fix Or Repair Daily" reputation....but more often than that "Found On Road Dead"

Buster Hyman
4th Oct 2006, 00:31
There's no need to get personal Numb Nuts!:=

G-CPTN
4th Oct 2006, 00:41
From my Mother's Autograph Album (from memory).
Written by her father in around about 1920:-
The Ford is my car, I shall not want another.
Yea though it runneth down the hills it has to be towed up the other side.
It leadeth me into deep pastures.
It maketh me to lie down in stoney places.
It annointeth my head with oil.

For goodness and mercy I pray the damned thing will not follow me for the rest of my life.

That's all I can recall. I haven't seen it for fifty years!

Jerricho
4th Oct 2006, 01:43
There's no need to get personal Numb Nuts!:=

Sorry....................... jackass


:p :p

Buster Hyman
4th Oct 2006, 03:07
.....cross dresser!!

Paracab
4th Oct 2006, 03:15
Mr Lexx - Wonder if your Laguna was a Friday afternoon job, my old man had a 1998 3.0 V6 jobby which was a beauty, until it 'died' recently, but had had a good innings all the same.

My worst car? Take your pick...

'B' Reg Ford Sierra which was thoroughly rotten underneath; so much so that a speed bump destroyed the rear suspension. Another was a 'G' Reg Rover 214 which had the wrong rad fitted and constantly overheated.

Both utter crap.

gashcan
4th Oct 2006, 04:18
Maestro.
Truly a most revolting vehicle. It did most things badly and nothing well.

Dea Certe
4th Oct 2006, 04:38
planepsycho,

I agree with you about the Pinto! I had a '78, what a rust-bucket! By '82 it was only good for planting in the field as a shelter for mice.

Ford, never again. :yuk:

Dea

Tired Old Man
4th Oct 2006, 04:52
A Niva 4X4 ~ sort of a Jeep-like concoction originally Posted by acrochik
I had one of these it was a LADA, I loved stripping it down and rebuilding it and doing the repairs. But in all honesty it spent more time really off the the road due to breakdowns rather than being an off road vehicle. :)

panda-k-bear
4th Oct 2006, 10:26
I had a Sierra once that when I reversed it out of a driveway and turned, the engine came away from the mountings. All of them. But that was just age.

Once when the Sierra was in a garage for a service, I had a Morris Ital in more or less the same green as that 'orrible 4x4 thingy on the previous page. Truly, truly awful.

Mrs p-k-b had a Yugo. That was pretty bad.

Shaggy Sheep Driver
4th Oct 2006, 10:50
SSD,
"An example of how poorly thought out it was?...."
But YOU bought one, new? How poorly thought out was that?, LOL ;)

You dumbo, ShyT. :)

Read the post again. THAT WAS A COMPANY CAR! I had no choice!

Skunkerama
4th Oct 2006, 11:00
Alpha Romeo 156 2.0 JTS Lusso 2002

Complete piece of shiyt.

Oh yes, it looks different, oh yes the leather stitching is beautifull, oh yes the interior is quite nice too.

Oh no it understeers like a dog, oh no the engine is gutless below 3000rpm.

Oh my god it has broken down 7 times in 11 months!!!.

I would never buy another one of those Italian lumps of crap even if you payed me.

Shocking car, even my TVR was more reliable.

Krystal n chips
4th Oct 2006, 11:02
Vauxhall Viva----not the original box type---the later model---a starting system with a mid of it's own !!:{ any form of damp weather--no go--changed everything you can think of---made no difference--got rid after about 9months for a 1600 Cortina XL--magic :E :ok:

Shaggy Sheep Driver
4th Oct 2006, 11:03
Another close-runner for worst car I've had was another company vehicle, A Fiat 131. This had three charcteristics - it went through head gaskets at an alarming rate, it wouldn't start on damp mornings, and it went very rusty in the 18 months I had it from new.

Head gaskets: I took it to the Fiat dealer for the ususal gasket change, then remembered I'd left something in the car so went back into the workshop to get it, only a few minutes after the mechanic had started work. He already had the head off. "That was quick", says I. "We get a lot of practice with these", says he.

Damp starting: Me & Mrs SSD went to a horsey afternoon up in the Derbyshire Peak District. The cloud came down, but by the time the event finished it had lifted and everyone got in their cras and left. Except us. It wouldn't start, even with liberal lashings of WD40 on the plugs and leads. So I called the AA. After about half an hour, he got it started.

"What was it?" I asked. "They're Italian, these", he replied. "They like a bit o'sunshine".

I would never, ever, buy a Fiat! I know they are supposed to be better these days, but I just couldn't do it......

High Wing Drifter
4th Oct 2006, 11:14
Krystal, I had a Viva, my first motor. Pretty awful.

The worst goes to the Austin Princess: This cheese wedge was frankly awful in every single resepect with no redeeming features whatsoever. It is frankly impossible to comprehend how, one day in British Leyland, a designer stood back from his drawing board, took a look at his hideous creation and proudly pronounced "My work is complete!".

Shaggy Sheep Driver
4th Oct 2006, 11:34
It is frankly impossible to comprehend how, one day in British Leyland, a designer stood back from his drawing board, took a look at his hideous creation and proudly pronounced "My work is complete!".

He was a minor sinner when you consider the guy who designed the Ford Scorpio.:yuk: :yuk: :yuk:

I think it was Quentin Wilson on Top Gear who said "the Ford board in Detroit must have been shown that design and gave it the go-ahead. Instead, they should have vomited into the waste paper bin!"

SSD

panda-k-bear
4th Oct 2006, 11:51
Did I mention the awful chocolate brown Princess?

Do I need to?

Lon More
4th Oct 2006, 11:54
Alfasud Ti; fantastic performance, was my first new car, unfortunately started to rust from day one. Alfa reps said it was due to stone damage - along the rain gutters??
Allegedly the finished, but unpainted shells were stored outside for up to several weeks before assembly.
Was given a straight swap to an Alfetta Coupe. Another horror story as this one rusted through above the windscreen, due to a chemical reaction between the chrome trim and the re-cycled [email protected] the body was made from. It was disposed off after less than a year.
Present lust-of-my-life drives a Lancia, but only from her house to mine where she borrows my Avantime, leaving me with my old Peugeot Partner. Only brings it back when the tank needs filling.

chuks
4th Oct 2006, 12:00
Absolute worst: A Rover 2000! The rear differential failed, for no obvious reason. First, though, the brake booster went out, when I discovered that Perfidious Albion had designed it in such a way one needed a special tool to repair it, thus cueing a trip to the dealer for a new unit that cost a bomb. Grr.

The much-vaunted De Dion rear axle would come off a bump with a lateral translation of about six inches. The car would just move over and I never did bother to figure out what was wrong there.

A close second was a Chevrolet Vega, the first and last American car I have ever owned. The engine had a new and revolutionary design with silicon-rich bores, acid-etched to run without liners in combination with iron-plated alloy pistons. The rings wore out in the bores so that I used to keep a case of oil in the boot and put a couple of quarts in with each fill-up.

Then the alloy windscreen surround, which had been fitted by just jamming it in there, became surrounded in turn by hideous rust blotches where the fitting technique had exposed bare metal.

The interior carpets turned out to be made of glued-together fuzz, so they reverted to long strings of fuzz; of warp and weft there were no signs!

It held something like 3 litres of oil, so that even when freshly filled the oil pressure light still came on when cornering (the one thing it was sort of okay at).

After that come a couple of Range Rovers I had in Nigeria. Fascinating vehicles! How ever did they manage to sell them?

Genius that I am I ignored the fuel consumption to buy my second one (reasoning that the first one must have been a one-off, problem child) just before Lagos, Nigeria was hit with fuel shortages. I mean, one of the world's largest oil producers has a petrol shortage?! Absolutely, and there I was with this thing that needed filling up every other day, unless it was down for maintenance. I lost more money on that one vehicle than on all the rest I have ever owned.

frostbite
4th Oct 2006, 13:02
Triumph Mayflower with all aluminium engine that needed to be stripped down for new piston rings.

The head wouldn't come off. We filled the bores with pen oil and left it for 48hrs., no change.

We screwed a couple of hoist eyes into the plug holes (vertical) and hoisted the front of the car clear of the ground. It sat like that for three days until the hoist was needed elsewhere, no change.

The head bolts were not replaced and the car was used daily for about six weeks, no head movement. Gave up.

seacue
4th Oct 2006, 14:22
Let's see.

MGA. Rust started showing up almost immediately from new. Floor mats made of flocked burlap..just terrible. Very uncomfortable car for long trips - and I drove it between Denver and the East Coast three times - 1700 miles each way.

Triumph Spitfire. Bad handling, odd brakes, never quite got the carbs set right.

Ford Pinto. "Larger on the outside, smaller on the inside." Designed to make you wish you had any other car. Loud valve tappet noise after a few tens of thousand miles. Sold it to a coworker who drove it another 100,000 miles plus - loud tappet noise and all.

And most of the rest....

shack
4th Oct 2006, 14:44
Wolsley 6/90 think Dixon of Dock Green. All leather inside, good looking outside for its day, BUT it ate spark plugs. If I was lucky I would get 5-600 miles without it eating them and I would have to clean them every 300. I always wondered how many 6/90s and 6/110s the fuzz had to enable them to keep one going. Who else remembers the bell on the front bumper? :(

Parapunter
4th Oct 2006, 14:48
Grey import Honda prelude. It had in effect, one square wheel in that no matter how much money I threw at it, it would never go without pretending it was driving over a cattle grid. The final straw was when all the oil fell out the engine 2 miles from home after a trip back from Gatwick. Finally palmed it off at auction, whcih is probably a cautionary tale in itself.

One was young & vain & wanted a japparknees sports car, one is now older & wiser & no longer wants a japparknees sports car.

Dick N. Cider
4th Oct 2006, 14:57
Great little car to drive when it went. Ate gearboxes faster than I could buy them. 6 gearboxes, 4 heads and more head gaskets than I remember in the couple of years it owned me.

Jerricho
4th Oct 2006, 15:04
........ am too!

green granite
4th Oct 2006, 15:43
A Daf rubber band drive model:yuk::yuk:


Oh **** this 300 sec delay pisses me off:yuk::yuk::yuk:

maxburner
4th Oct 2006, 17:18
A blue Fiat Uno 70S. To be fair, I didn't so much purchase it as enter into a time share arrangement with the dealer. I would drive it for a week, then he would fix it for a week, and so on. The build quality was very poor, which was a shame as when it went it went quite well.

That was my first and last Fiat.

A close 2nd was a Montego 2 liter Estate. It worked ok, but you could almost hear it rust.

matkat
4th Oct 2006, 17:27
Nissan 300ZX heap of rubbish.

Curious Pax
4th Oct 2006, 17:33
Also had an Austin Allegro, but after they had started fitting round steering wheels. As a first car it wasn't too bad, except that if you drove over 50mph it used to guzzle oil. If I drove at 60mph on the motorway (and it wasn't too comfortable higher than that) I had to fill it up with oil every 100 miles!

Still, got it for a song, and received 4 times that as a trade in for a new car after 18 months, so could have been worse.

The 'blow-up' suspension was peculiar - had to have it reinflated every so often. Forget the technical name - hydragas maybe?

High Wing Drifter
4th Oct 2006, 17:38
The 'blow-up' suspension was peculiar - had to have it reinflated every so often. Forget the technical name - hydragas maybe?
Oh yes, hydrogas, another aspect of the disgraceful Princess not worth mentioning. Oft was the time I would commute to work with one side lower than the other, as it was only one side that had the undetectable and thusly unfixable leak.

Cheerio
4th Oct 2006, 17:50
Fiat Barchetta, looked lovely, but had a engine design fault and liked to seize its rear brake calipers on a monthly basis, hence ate up pads and discs, and also resulted in spectacular slides on greasy roads.

Shaft109
4th Oct 2006, 18:10
Not owned them, but been in the car trade for a while so here are some to avoid:

Rover/BL Metro - I once was an MOT assistant and was checking the seat belts in the back, just plug them in and plug, when I felt it 'give'. Upon moving the back seat the plate where the thing was bolted to had literally rusted away.

Rover 800 -I simply don't know where to begin with this P.O.S.

Mercedes E-Class (1998)- Surprising? not if you have one. See here for Merc's failing build quality.

Morris 1000 - My Grandad's maroon machine had a small cable attached to the gearbox to stop the whole engine moving forwards and hitting the radiator under braking!

Best car though is a Vauxhall Cavalier - tough and basic. Just goes on and on!

frostbite
4th Oct 2006, 18:21
From my time in the motor trade:-

Renault Dauphine

Vauxhall Wyvern

Not that you're likely to encounter either nowadays!

ormus55
4th Oct 2006, 18:38
ive also been in the motor trade.
the ones to avoid are, anything french or italian. they rust while you watch. and the french ones esp have some peculiar designed suspension and brake systems. keep away from em.
i used to charge double/treble to work on citroens, just so the punter would piss off.

anything british leyland, apart from the MINI and the proper MG cars.

the japanese cars are very reliable but have all the charisma of john major.

my brother bought a new ford fiesta, bout 25 yrs ago. it was rusty on the front panel, when it was delivered!

my present cars are a focus tdi, and a discovery tdi (for weekend playing).

DirtyPierre
4th Oct 2006, 18:40
In the late 70s as a Uni student I had the coke bottle shape FORD Escort 1600L. Piece of shite! Engine always had something wrong with it.

At the same time my sister bought a 2 year old Mitsuibishi Lancer 1400. What a sweet ride that thing was, and it drove like the rally car it was based on. I have never been so jealous of one of my siblings!

jayteeto
4th Oct 2006, 18:53
H reg, Ford Escort Eclipse. Bought brand new for 8500, 13 major warranty claims in the first year, sold at 2 years old for the grand total of 3000. Absolute shed of a car that made me promise never to ever buy a ford again...:mad:

Smiliesam
4th Oct 2006, 19:00
Maestro - it talked back.
Allegro - fell apart:eek:

Flying Lawyer
4th Oct 2006, 19:05
shack

You've shattered my illusions about the Wolseley 6/90. :{
As a child, I thought they were wonderful - they looked so exciting on the police programmes I loved. Yes, I remember the bell on the front bumper. ;)
I drive past the old Scotland Yard almost every day and, even now, often think of those scenes of police cars racing in and out with bell ringing.

http://www.austin-rover.co.uk/images/policewols_02.jpg

BTW, more likely 'No Hiding Place' than Dixon of Dock Green. There were no outside scenes in Dixon as far as I can remember.

FL

eastern wiseguy
4th Oct 2006, 19:11
Sold my beloved BMW cos my wife (new)didn't like it .......bought a Rover 75(she loved that)..it died at easter....bought a VW Passat to tide me over...the timing belt parted on that last week........I reckon I killed an albatros in a previous life...:uhoh: :uhoh:

Got a crappy car to sell?.....phone 028xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Jerricho
4th Oct 2006, 19:33
the ones to avoid are, anything french or italian. they rust while you watch. and the french ones esp have some peculiar designed suspension and brake systems

Heh. I had a Peugeot 106 GTi that while drove like a rocket powered rollerskate had shocking build quality. It had more rattles than a skip full of babies, the dashboard had gaps you could fit your shoe in and had the most bizarre rev limiter. Rather than "bouncing off the redline" when you hit the limiter the engine would just cut out.............not the best thing when flooring it around a corner and you suddenly loose all power.

Chimbu chuckles
4th Oct 2006, 20:17
Worst car ever was a 81 XJS V12.

Beautiful to drive and look at...but keeping it running would break your heart.

Now I have a 95 Diesel Pajero....just bulletproof.

Recently bought my teenager a 93 Honda Prelude 2.0...what a fantastic car...almost wish I was 17 again.

Flying_bear
4th Oct 2006, 20:20
not as luxurious but mine was my Vauxhall Nova with offset stearing wheel., yeah ROCK!!:cool:

FB

cml387
4th Oct 2006, 21:22
No hiding place theme music..

http://www.whirligig-tv.co.uk/tv/adults/other/nohidingplace.wav


I was allowed to stay up to watch the opening credits. Then bed.

reynoldsno1
4th Oct 2006, 21:27
I have posted this on the favourite car thread - worst car ever, the :mad: Austin Maxi

Paul Wilson
4th Oct 2006, 22:37
I was going to defend the Austin Allegro, I had one 1300 4 door in sh!t brown, but then I started to remember all the things that went wrong.

Massive tyre wear on right front wheel, traced to the fact that the suspension mountings had rotted away, the engine tie bar mounting broke, so I held the top end of then engine in for the that last few months it had an MoT for with a bit of rope(not to be recommended, the thumps from the engine bay were spectacular) engine itself was pretty solid but above 60 was the devils work. Finally went to meet its maker due to a rusting fuel tank.That's just the major stuff - minor items like the inabality of BL to produce something resembling an electrical system I have passed over.

Best motor was a 96 Impreza Jap import, had it 4 years, only thing to go wrong was the gearbox self distructing, but if I will go and tow a car trailer with a Caterham on board and Race kit for the weekend, and drive like a nutter what do you expect? btw 0-60 in 9.8 secs (with Caterham attached to the back):E :E

henry crun
4th Oct 2006, 23:13
This is an easy question to answer, it was a Holden Commodore.

Doors didn't fit so it was draughty and let in the dust, one single thin topcoat of paint on the front airdam so the slightest stone chip showed bare metal, leaks in the boot and rust showing within three months from new, etc, etc.

Even the Austin 1800 wasn't as bad as that Commodore.

Buster Hyman
4th Oct 2006, 23:27
...am three! ....NO!....Wait....:O

shack
5th Oct 2006, 14:50
Flying Lawyer you could well be right with the programme. The chap who stands up each year at the Albert Hall and says "age shall not weary them" is wrong--its knackering me!!

maggioneato
5th Oct 2006, 17:23
Rover SD1. I only kept it a week. Crock of s**t it was. Hubby used to choose my car. I now choose my own. :ok:

G-CPTN
5th Oct 2006, 17:30
The Rover SD1 was a real anachronism. As a replacement for the Rover 2000/3500 (which was a sophisticated - and maybe excessively complicated - design) it was unbelievably crude in concept. In my opinion it was a good-looking external shape, but underneath the chassis mechanicals owed more to the Morris Minor / Marina / Ital school of construction.
I had to undertake several development tasks on the SD1, and the expression 'pig's ear' summed it up.

slim_slag
5th Oct 2006, 17:44
All these cars are from an era when everything on the road was complete sh!te. Smart people who wanted a new car would go to Dagenham and pick the car up in person on a dry Thursday.

Thursday because all the workers were running out of money so couldn't afford to get drunk and wern't hungover, they had four days practise of building cars since the last weekend, and their minds were still on the job before Friday came and they wanted out early. No robots in those days, the quality was dependent on the men doing a good job, and to be honest they hardly ever managed it. The shop stewards run the companies and they didn't give a toss about quality.

You would pick it up on a dry day so you could get your car home without it getting wet. Once it got wet your body was knacked and would rust through in a year and there was nothing you could do about it. If you got it home dry you could spend the weekend undersealing it with the kits you bought in Exchange and Mart and have a hope of the body lasting five years.

Of course five years was long enough, as your big ends would be gone by 60,000 miles and an engine with 40,000 miles on it was pretty much coming to the end of it's life. You never got odometers with 6 digits in those days, cars just wouldn't make 100k.

Cars today are absoultely marvellous compared to the junk we are discussing here. The youth of today just don't know how bleeding lucky they are.

Now I come to think about it was it best to pick it up on a Tuesday?

Loki
5th Oct 2006, 18:13
No doubt at all:

Citroen Xantia 1.6.....a real ramp rooster.

Little Blue
5th Oct 2006, 18:23
No contest for me...and I know it's a cliche, but, in 1990, I actually paid 1800quid for a Skoda Estelle....And a purple one, to boot !
I convinced myself that I could handle the ridicule from family/friends/strangers etc....I got barrel loads of it. After 6 months, the head gasket went and I sold it to another sucker for 800 quid.
I had to put a suitcase full of bricks in the "bonnet"(boot) to trim it.
Mates still mention the "purple prick mobile" to this day.:{

gravity victim
5th Oct 2006, 19:01
Moskvitch. Made Trabants look sohisticated. At full lock the front wheels rubbed on the wheel arches. Plastic incicator stalk was so sharp it could cut your finger (and did).

gruntie
5th Oct 2006, 20:02
Citroen 2CV. Any Citroen 2CV. But in particular, a 1956, RHD, Slough-built, 425cc but-the-rings-had-gone-on-one-cylinder-so-only-212-of-them-worked, Citroen 2CV the very thought of which wakes me in the middle of the night screaming and gibbering even now 35 years later.
And the worst thing of all, 20 years later I briefly drove a brand new, last-of-the-line, 2CV6. And the bloody thing hadn't changed. Absolute abortion of a car, nothing else comes close.

reynoldsno1
5th Oct 2006, 20:27
The original specification for the 2CV was accidentally given to the Americans, and they built the Hummer from it........;)

ChampChump
5th Oct 2006, 22:42
Simca 1100. Bought in desperation after the Mini got broken, it was passed on to then-partner when he passed his test....:E
I've never seen one since.

Smiliesam
5th Oct 2006, 22:49
The Dacia Duster - had a pickle jar for windscreen wash. Bought new but fell apart literally on a regular basis.

Alpine Flyer
5th Oct 2006, 23:03
Opel (Vauxhall to you on the island) Astra.

Bought it almost new to escape constant repair with 10-year old predecessor.

- power brake replaced within a year
- rear brakes repaired within second year
- leaky radiator after 3 1/2 years
- battery dead after 3 1/2 years
- generator dead after same time
- heating needs repair after 5 years

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in Family: Citroen XM: gorgeous limo, excellent suspension, smooth ride, "intellectually appealing" but: speedometer starts to "wiggle" after a couple thousand kms (as it did on BX predecessor). Airco "fire" / dead airco after about 3 years. Car sold for only slightly more than scrap value. (And that for a "luxury" limousine with a BMW-like price tag.) Although the new Citroen limo looks gorgeous (especially to one who grew up with three DS) I have vowed never to buy a Citroen in my life.

Only VW or Mazda the next time round.....

ormus55
6th Oct 2006, 01:31
Heh. I had a Peugeot 106 GTi that while drove like a rocket powered rollerskate had shocking build quality. It had more rattles than a skip full of babies, the dashboard had gaps you could fit your shoe in and had the most bizarre rev limiter. Rather than "bouncing off the redline" when you hit the limiter the engine would just cut out.............not the best thing when flooring it around a corner and you suddenly loose all power.

my son in law has a peugeot 307sw estate car, 3 yrs old now. the build quality is absolutely appalling. hes got a collection of trim panels in the boot, that have fallen off. hes also lost some panels on the M6 motorway.
when you lean on the front wing, it bends inwards!

precession
6th Oct 2006, 01:46
worst = Audi A4 quattro - too much wrong to mention
Best = Subaru Liberty/Legacy

BeechNut
6th Oct 2006, 02:00
I love you Europeans. Not only are your finest cars exotic, so too are your worst ones.

Over on this side of the pond, my worst ever was a 1985 Pontiac 6000. In 7 miserable months of ownership (from new), it required 18 unscheduled trips to the dealer. You'd think I'd bought the dealer's $!tbox courtesy car, I had it so often! I traded it in for a Merkur XR4Ti, which to you would be a Ford Sierra. I had few problems with that car even though they did not have a sterling reputation over here.

I reckon my best is what I drive now, a nice 2005 Passat 2.0 TDI. So far in 102,000 km of ownership, the ONLY problem I had with it was the bimbo yapping on her cell phone at rush hour, who ran into it from behind and inflicted $5000 damage. Fortunately the panel beaters did a fine job (though the door fit needs a minor adjustment). I can routinely get 50 miles per imperial gallon on the highway with this beauty. Never owned a tighter car. Rattle and squeak free, feels brand new even after 100k km. My wife drives a Jetta TDI wagon (Bora to you guys) and she can get 60 mpg on the highway.

tinpis
6th Oct 2006, 02:36
Worst car?
Hillman Minx and Volvo.