A37575
28th Sep 2006, 12:26
I understand that ERSA Point Cook requires pilots operating in the circuit area to report their position as No.1 or No. 2,3,4 etc when turning base.
An experienced Melbourne airport air traffic controller expressed great concern at this local requirement and wondered if this all started with a well known flying school based at Point Cook that dominates the circuit.
With the majority of inexperienced ab-initio students operating daily at Point Cook and themselves having doubtful English second language "skills" how reliable can their reports be of position number in the circuit?
Historically since civil flying schools were permitted to operate at Point Cook, the circuits are regularly flown so wide that it is often impossible to spot aircraft on long downwind and final let alone try and count where you are with any certainty.
One false number count and the danger of relaxing thinking you are No. 2 etc will one day cause at the minimum, a near miss. Far better for circuit traffic to be forced to keep a good look-out for conflicting traffic rather than state a number which has a significant chance of being dead wrong.
An experienced Melbourne airport air traffic controller expressed great concern at this local requirement and wondered if this all started with a well known flying school based at Point Cook that dominates the circuit.
With the majority of inexperienced ab-initio students operating daily at Point Cook and themselves having doubtful English second language "skills" how reliable can their reports be of position number in the circuit?
Historically since civil flying schools were permitted to operate at Point Cook, the circuits are regularly flown so wide that it is often impossible to spot aircraft on long downwind and final let alone try and count where you are with any certainty.
One false number count and the danger of relaxing thinking you are No. 2 etc will one day cause at the minimum, a near miss. Far better for circuit traffic to be forced to keep a good look-out for conflicting traffic rather than state a number which has a significant chance of being dead wrong.