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Bobster
11th Sep 2006, 04:12
I am trying to work out what is the proper publication to use for flying in PNG. I have an older copy of the PNG AIP which looks like Australia's old style AIP with RAC/OPS etc, or do you now use the CASR's?

Any advice would be appreciated.

maxspeed
13th Sep 2006, 01:13
Download http://www.casr.gov.pg/Rules.html

Captain Nomad
13th Sep 2006, 22:01
Not exactly sure what 'publication' you are chasing, but yes, the CASRs are the new regulations. The system is almost a clone of the New Zealand regulatory framework. For operational documents there is a somewhat recently revised two volume AIP. One volume is the 'AGA' (think ERSA) the other volume has the multiple GEN, COM, MET, RAC et al sections. Then if you are lucky you might be able to get hold of the most recent charts which will have varying issue dates - most were last issued in the 80's! If you are very lucky you might even be able to source the ONC (WAC charts) from some place - last time I had to go to the government mapping dept in Waigani and even they didn't have them all in stock. Once they run out I don't know what will happen! :rolleyes:

Have fun :ok:

Lando Calrissian
19th Sep 2006, 22:33
I've tried the Office of Civil Aviation website looking for the AIP, http://www.oca.gov.pg/ and that ain't working :ugh:

Pinky the pilot
20th Sep 2006, 06:39
I've tried the Office of Civil Aviation website looking for the AIP, http://www.oca.gov.pg/ and that ain't working

I'd be extremely surprised if it did work!!:eek::E

the wizard of auz
20th Sep 2006, 08:20
So would I. :}
PM Ozexpat. he'll give you the good oil on whats required. (my ears are still burning from my being told whats required :E )

Lando Calrissian
20th Sep 2006, 10:51
:D yutupela tok tru, mi stap long Australia longpela taim tumas! I expected too much.

OzExpat
20th Sep 2006, 16:28
I've tried the Office of Civil Aviation website looking for the AIP, http://www.oca.gov.pg/ and that ain't working
Ya might do better using the URL so thoughtfully provided by maxspeed, on 13 September. Just as a hint, it's all the way back near the top of page 1...

Ricky Bobby
3rd Oct 2006, 23:34
Some good stuff at the CASR website above.

Forgive my stupidity but is the air law written test based on what is available on the website?

Captain Nomad
4th Oct 2006, 10:51
Ricky,

Yes it is a multiple choice exam (closed-book - no access to the regs allowed in the exam) based on the CASR's on the web. If you take a closer look at the stuff on the web you will find a downloadable 'study guide' PDF file for either the CPL or ATPL air law exam :hmm:

dwarfhunter
4th Oct 2006, 12:35
As well as CAR, the exam can contain questions taken from, the ACT, AIP AGA and old AIP Radar section. Also has at least one question from the approach plates, usually a minimum height at a specified point (fairly straight forward).

Ricky Bobby
5th Oct 2006, 07:47
Thank you for your help everyone.

Is there any way to obtain an AIP Volume 1 before the test?

Ricky Bobby
20th Nov 2006, 06:33
I'll try another approach.

Is it possible to pass using just the CASR information and without having the AIP to study before the exam?

Captain Nomad
20th Nov 2006, 06:40
Mate, I didn't have a PNG AIP book in front of me when I was studying for the ATPL air law and instrument air law and I still managed to pass both first go so I think you should be right so long as you study hard (remember it is closed book!). If you know your way around Australian IAL charts you shouldn't have a problem with the example copy you will get in the exam - just don't worry too much if the revision date looks a bit old....!