Tidbinbilla
9th Sep 2006, 02:54
It's that time of the year again. Must be the hot weather. Instances of people hijacking threads and abusing other forum users seems to be on the rise. The moderating team wants to remind you of some of the rules you agreed to when you signed up.
The Ten Thingies of PPRuNe
First
When you signed up for PPRuNe you clicked the accept button and agreed to the following;
Considering the real-time nature of this bulletin board, it is impossible for us to review messages or confirm the validity of information posted.
Please remember that we at do not actively monitor the contents of and are not responsible for any messages posted.
We do not vouch for nor warrant the accuracy, completeness or usefulness of any message, and are not responsible for the contents of any message. The messages express the views of the author of the message, not necessarily the views of this BB or any entity associated with this BB.
Any user who feels that a posted message is objectionable is encouraged to contact us immediately by email.
We have the ability to remove objectionable messages and we will make every effort to do so, within a reasonable time frame, if we determine that removal is necessary.
This is a manual process, however, so please realize that we may not be able to remove or edit particular messages immediately.
You agree, through your use of this service, that you will not use this BB to post any material which is knowingly false and/or defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or otherwise violative of any law.
You agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyright is owned by you or by this BB.
Although this BB does not and cannot review the messages posted and is not responsible for the content of any of these messages, we at this BB reserve the right to delete any message for any or no reason whatsoever.
You remain solely responsible for the content of your messages, and you agree to indemnify and hold harmless this BB, Madrona Park, Inc. (the makers of the bulletin board software), and their agents with respect to any claim based upon transmission of your message(s).
We at this BB also reserve the right to reveal your identity (or whatever information we know about you) in the event of a complaint or legal action arising from any message posted by you.
Please note that advertisements, chain letters, pyramid schemes, and solicitations are inappropriate on this BB.
Second
The moderators will decide what, when and where is appropriate as far as posts are concerned.
This BB is run as fairly as is possible, but, given the ethical and legal responsibilities demanded it is NOT a democracy and does not respond well to demands for this or that ‘right’ especially when it violates another’s ‘right’.:cool:
Third
We assume that PPRuNers are grown-ups capable of reading the newspapers for information publicly available and do not need to be fed an hourly diet of "news" items.
If they are PPRuNing then they are capable of accessing the Internet news services for this purpose, if they are too lazy to do so then it is their loss but not our responsibility. Apart from all of the foregoing it consumes bandwidth and makes it all run slower than it needs be.
If it is felt necessary to point to a worthy news item then a LINK to it will suffice AND will not therefore violate the principle of copyright belonging to the originator or consume PPRuNe bandwidth.
Any “news” items posted forthwith without attribution to the originator will be deleted.
Fourth
Hijacking of threads is a pain.
Moderators must police this as vigorously as is possible.
Individual PPRuNers have the right to pursue a thread subject without it being hijacked to some other agenda.
Spamming of the forum by an individual with ‘interesting’ news and views, albeit well intentioned, actually has the opposite effect and inhibits full and free participation
Fifth
Some feel compelled to have “absolutely the last word” or “be vindicated” on a thread topic regardless of other posters views. This causes threads to become long and tediously repetitious and WILL cause its premature closure to the detriment of others.
We provide a forum for the exchange of rumour, news and views of matters aviation NOT a venue for the imposition of personal agenda. We will not tolerate this violation of individual rights.
We are the friend of EVERY PPRuNer equally on this forum without fear or favour, as we should be with each other, unless they breach the bounds of decency and civility.
A difference of opinion in civilized company should not necessarily invoke or provoke instant hostility.
We are, like many, a little tired of the “if you cant see the rightness of my argument then I feel sorry for you, because I am trying to help you ” routine, and the “If you don’t agree with me you must be an idiot/management/scab” has grown old as well.
PPRuNe has no intention of allowing a brain-cell-challenged minority to derail important debates.
Argue your point on the various issues in a civilized manner, accept that there may be different views from yours, and get on with it.
Attack the argument and not the person.
We will all then, at the very least learn something beyond mere polemics.
Sixth
Thread subjects outside matters which do not fit the particular forum will be sent elsewhere to an appropriate forum or deleted. This is an aviation forum frequented by, we hope, responsible adult aviation professionals and the threads here will reflect that.
Seventh
Whilst the motivation may be well intentioned, it is the moderators’ NOT individual PPRuNers task to chide or otherwise bring into line, errant posters if it is necessary to do so.
Threads originated to plead with fellow PPRuNers to lay off are self-fulfilling prophesies in attracting further examples of that for which they plead.
They are not relevant, raise the moderator workload and will be deleted.
Eighth
We moderate this forum as a service to fellow PPRuNers and to help P1 aka the esteemed Danny Fyne keep this whole wonderful thing the right way up. It takes valuable time and effort, given ungrudgingly, but time and effort nonetheless.
We are just people, with jobs and families; a busy life that extends well beyond the boundaries of this forum. We have volunteered (been press ganged) into continuing to moderate this forum.
It would be very easy to just pull the plug, but Danny has agreed that whilst we keep it under control it can continue.
We will continue to do so only whilst it is worthwhile.
Ninth
FYI, and we don’t think we’ll have to kill you by telling you this but, we are not one but many people dedicated to moderating this forum and bringing a broader perspective to the aviation community locally and world wide and all for YOUR benefit.:)
Tenth
There is no one individual bigger than us PPRuNers collectively, expect perhaps P1.
Please take this into consideration before posting.
TID
The Ten Thingies of PPRuNe
First
When you signed up for PPRuNe you clicked the accept button and agreed to the following;
Considering the real-time nature of this bulletin board, it is impossible for us to review messages or confirm the validity of information posted.
Please remember that we at do not actively monitor the contents of and are not responsible for any messages posted.
We do not vouch for nor warrant the accuracy, completeness or usefulness of any message, and are not responsible for the contents of any message. The messages express the views of the author of the message, not necessarily the views of this BB or any entity associated with this BB.
Any user who feels that a posted message is objectionable is encouraged to contact us immediately by email.
We have the ability to remove objectionable messages and we will make every effort to do so, within a reasonable time frame, if we determine that removal is necessary.
This is a manual process, however, so please realize that we may not be able to remove or edit particular messages immediately.
You agree, through your use of this service, that you will not use this BB to post any material which is knowingly false and/or defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or otherwise violative of any law.
You agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyright is owned by you or by this BB.
Although this BB does not and cannot review the messages posted and is not responsible for the content of any of these messages, we at this BB reserve the right to delete any message for any or no reason whatsoever.
You remain solely responsible for the content of your messages, and you agree to indemnify and hold harmless this BB, Madrona Park, Inc. (the makers of the bulletin board software), and their agents with respect to any claim based upon transmission of your message(s).
We at this BB also reserve the right to reveal your identity (or whatever information we know about you) in the event of a complaint or legal action arising from any message posted by you.
Please note that advertisements, chain letters, pyramid schemes, and solicitations are inappropriate on this BB.
Second
The moderators will decide what, when and where is appropriate as far as posts are concerned.
This BB is run as fairly as is possible, but, given the ethical and legal responsibilities demanded it is NOT a democracy and does not respond well to demands for this or that ‘right’ especially when it violates another’s ‘right’.:cool:
Third
We assume that PPRuNers are grown-ups capable of reading the newspapers for information publicly available and do not need to be fed an hourly diet of "news" items.
If they are PPRuNing then they are capable of accessing the Internet news services for this purpose, if they are too lazy to do so then it is their loss but not our responsibility. Apart from all of the foregoing it consumes bandwidth and makes it all run slower than it needs be.
If it is felt necessary to point to a worthy news item then a LINK to it will suffice AND will not therefore violate the principle of copyright belonging to the originator or consume PPRuNe bandwidth.
Any “news” items posted forthwith without attribution to the originator will be deleted.
Fourth
Hijacking of threads is a pain.
Moderators must police this as vigorously as is possible.
Individual PPRuNers have the right to pursue a thread subject without it being hijacked to some other agenda.
Spamming of the forum by an individual with ‘interesting’ news and views, albeit well intentioned, actually has the opposite effect and inhibits full and free participation
Fifth
Some feel compelled to have “absolutely the last word” or “be vindicated” on a thread topic regardless of other posters views. This causes threads to become long and tediously repetitious and WILL cause its premature closure to the detriment of others.
We provide a forum for the exchange of rumour, news and views of matters aviation NOT a venue for the imposition of personal agenda. We will not tolerate this violation of individual rights.
We are the friend of EVERY PPRuNer equally on this forum without fear or favour, as we should be with each other, unless they breach the bounds of decency and civility.
A difference of opinion in civilized company should not necessarily invoke or provoke instant hostility.
We are, like many, a little tired of the “if you cant see the rightness of my argument then I feel sorry for you, because I am trying to help you ” routine, and the “If you don’t agree with me you must be an idiot/management/scab” has grown old as well.
PPRuNe has no intention of allowing a brain-cell-challenged minority to derail important debates.
Argue your point on the various issues in a civilized manner, accept that there may be different views from yours, and get on with it.
Attack the argument and not the person.
We will all then, at the very least learn something beyond mere polemics.
Sixth
Thread subjects outside matters which do not fit the particular forum will be sent elsewhere to an appropriate forum or deleted. This is an aviation forum frequented by, we hope, responsible adult aviation professionals and the threads here will reflect that.
Seventh
Whilst the motivation may be well intentioned, it is the moderators’ NOT individual PPRuNers task to chide or otherwise bring into line, errant posters if it is necessary to do so.
Threads originated to plead with fellow PPRuNers to lay off are self-fulfilling prophesies in attracting further examples of that for which they plead.
They are not relevant, raise the moderator workload and will be deleted.
Eighth
We moderate this forum as a service to fellow PPRuNers and to help P1 aka the esteemed Danny Fyne keep this whole wonderful thing the right way up. It takes valuable time and effort, given ungrudgingly, but time and effort nonetheless.
We are just people, with jobs and families; a busy life that extends well beyond the boundaries of this forum. We have volunteered (been press ganged) into continuing to moderate this forum.
It would be very easy to just pull the plug, but Danny has agreed that whilst we keep it under control it can continue.
We will continue to do so only whilst it is worthwhile.
Ninth
FYI, and we don’t think we’ll have to kill you by telling you this but, we are not one but many people dedicated to moderating this forum and bringing a broader perspective to the aviation community locally and world wide and all for YOUR benefit.:)
Tenth
There is no one individual bigger than us PPRuNers collectively, expect perhaps P1.
Please take this into consideration before posting.
TID