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1DC
13th Aug 2006, 20:17
Just had to spend a few days south of the Wash to attend a wedding.I was surprised to see that almost every pub , cafe, service area etc., that i went into, was staffed by apparant east Europeans. Where have the British citizens who had these jobs, gone??
I know that many would say that i live in "dead end " corner but i haven't noticed such a change around here..

Two's in
13th Aug 2006, 20:24
Remember, an East European immigrant worker is for life, not just for Christmas. You might want to call somebody in Brussels who currently has the repsonsibility for spending your tax money on making the UK a haven for all EU immigrant labour. Thank goodness you don't appear to be having any security issues with letting every man jack come in though...

GreatCircle
13th Aug 2006, 20:26
Interesting this. My family - cousins and the like, still live in the UK - and in Glasgow, in districts once the preserve of local hoodlams and either blue or green football supporters - Afghanis, Bulgarians, Albanians, Romanians all live in complete racial disharmony.

Seems the UK is going through quite the change...and isn't ready for it either...

PS Where there is a major railway freight depot in the vicinity - corresponding increased numbers of the above...

tilewood
13th Aug 2006, 20:31
Just had to spend a few days south of the Wash to attend a wedding.I was surprised to see that almost every pub , cafe, service area etc., that i went into, was staffed by apparant east Europeans. Where have the British citizens who had these jobs, gone??
I know that many would say that i live in "dead end " corner but i haven't noticed such a change around here..

The British? Now I heard of them once. They lived on a beautiful
collection of islands off the West Coast of Europe, and were un-invaded for
1000 years.

Apart from the odd Celtic uprising they lived in peace and tranquillity, defending their democracy and culture from foreign intrusion and German bombs.

Then all of a sudden their government gave up control of their borders
and surrendered their culture for reasons that no sane person can
understand.

Now the British are becoming aliens and second class citizens in their
own country.

But because it is politically correct, it is OK.

Now legitimate foreign workers are fine, but because the borders
are no longer controlled, who are legitimate foreign workers?!! :hmm:

G-CPTN
13th Aug 2006, 21:07
As long as the French don't realise.

matt_hooks
13th Aug 2006, 21:47
Excuse me, uninvaded for 1000 years???

The British Isles have a long and honourable history of being invaded, dating back to prehistoric times. I would question anyones right to claim their blood is "pure English" as interbreeding between the island and it's neighbours near and far was, is and will always be rife!

You need only walk down your local high street and note the various hews of skin, hair and eyes to appreciate the ethnic diversity that has ALWAYS been present in the British Isles!

Personally I think that the influx of Eastern european types are a good thing, as they are (in the vast majority of cases) prepared to actually work and earn their money doing the jobs vacated by the chavish, uneducated (and often proud of it) younger generation of "Brits". I am of this generation but I have always been taught that it is better to have a job, no matter how mean and lowly, than to sit and sponge off the state. As such I have held various undesirable jobs in my time including cleaning toilets, keeping bar and many of the other posts filled by these people.

Unfortunately it seems that this attitude is rather unfashionable. In fact the fashionable course of action seems to be to "have a cute little baaaaby" and sponge off the taxpayer for the rest of your life.

So in answer to your question, the people who would normally fill these often menial and lowly jobs are sitting on their backsides, sponging off honest hardworking taxpayers and popping out sprogs for us to support at an unsustainable rate of knots!

Rant over! :}

G-CPTN
13th Aug 2006, 21:53
But they're keeping Burbury afloat.
Sorry, Googoo tells me it should be Burberry.

matt_hooks
13th Aug 2006, 21:57
Therein lies another myth!

They are keeping the manufacturers and purveyors of FAKE Burberry afloat!

And the Argos jewellery section has seen a massive upturn in sales of "gold" plated "sovereign" rings and plastic looking gold chains!

N.B the correct spelling of Burberry first time!

con-pilot
13th Aug 2006, 23:11
Where have the British citizens who had these jobs, gone??


They are over here working in bars and restaurants.:p

(And they are more than welcome to be here.:ok: )

reynoldsno1
14th Aug 2006, 01:04
"They" checked my hire car @ LHR in last Christmas, and very efficient and polite they were too.....

Flip Flop Flyer
14th Aug 2006, 07:26
Kind of works both ways, doesn't it? I seem to remember having encountered British subjects expatting all over the world. They're taking jobs the locals are either unable or unwilling to take, same as immigrants working the bars in the UK wouldn't you say?

As for immigration rules, blaming the EU is a common mistake. There's nothing stopping the UK from having tougher laws, the EU is perfectly happy with that. Take Denmark as an example. No, it's the politicians from your own fair island that's letting you down, if you indeed feel let down.

Stop reading The Sun, it's not good for you :E

Polikarpov
14th Aug 2006, 07:40
According to one of the Sundays if you are a legal migrant worker from the newly expanded EU (which in the EU means you're working in Britain, as most others politely decline) you're entitled to claim state benefit for dependants who don't travel with you, but remain at home.

Thus last year some 45m of state child benefits, etc. went East to Poland from this isle, for the folks back home. One of the many reasons Britain will be such an attractive option for the new joiners next year (well, one of the only options - not as if France and Germany are going to open their borders is it!)

:ugh:

tony draper
14th Aug 2006, 07:45
We were quite happy to have Polish and Czech chaps sitting in Spitfires sixty years ago.
:rolleyes:

SXB
14th Aug 2006, 07:46
FFF, Yes, you're right. I live in a place which is full of expats (both British and other nationalities) and there is a degree of resentment to our presence. Our effect on the local economy is certainly positive though the locals blame us for the increase in property prices over the last few years, this is probably true as all my neighbours are foreigners because the locals can't afford to live in this particular area of the city.

The biggest criticism of expats here though is that they don't integrate, they marry other expats, socialise with others and even send their kids to special schools. Unlike other brits abroad though I don't know anyone here who can't speak the local language.

luoto
14th Aug 2006, 07:50
Polikarpov: Any chance you could find a reference for this. If correct, I am really shocked.

Choxolate
14th Aug 2006, 08:20
We were quite happy to have Polish and Czech chaps sitting in Spitfires sixty years ago.
:rolleyes:
Hmmm... I think you might find that their country had been invaded and we were at war - not really a parallel set of circumstances.

Mr Lexx
14th Aug 2006, 08:25
Excuse me, uninvaded for 1000 years???
The British Isles have a long and honourable history of being invaded, dating back to prehistoric times. I would question anyones right to claim their blood is "pure English" Rant over! :}

Hmmmmm, is your history knowledge abandoning you Matt, or is it a lack of comprehension?

Tilewood was not referring to prehistoric times, he was referring to the last 1000 years. The last successful invasion of Great Britain was the Norman conquest of 1066, so 940 years ago. I am quite happy for Tilewood to round that up to 1000 years for the sake of readibility. {pedantic rant over}

Polikarpov
14th Aug 2006, 08:35
luoto, sure. Here you go:

Mail on Sunday article (http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=400309&in_page_id=1770).

..under EU rules, Polish and other Eastern European parents working in Britain can leave their children at home and still qualify for UK money - £907.40 a year for a single child and £608.40 for each additional one.

..Last night, a spokeswoman for HM Revenue and Customs confirmed that Eastern European nationals could claim child benefit. She said that under EU rules it was classified an 'exportable benefit'.

Farrell
14th Aug 2006, 09:36
I have to say that I much prefer having my service delivered by an alluring, blonde-haired Lithuanian girl with ice-blue eyes and an accent that came straight out of a James Bond movie, than the "home-grown" alternative!

Mr Lexx
14th Aug 2006, 10:50
luoto, sure. Here you go:

Mail on Sunday article (http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=400309&in_page_id=1770).

I give up. That is ridiculous!