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tony draper
4th Aug 2006, 07:47
Is apparently now available online,Doomsday never covered the North East of England, one thinks William the Bastard was a bit ticked of with us Geordies, or we told his inspectors to **** off, not sure if its prudent to read it though, yer might discover yer owe somebody a hell of a lot of rent.

Farmer 1
4th Aug 2006, 08:04
If I were at all pedantic, I would tell you it's DOMESDAY!

4th Aug 2006, 08:08
Surely it's not. 'Domesday' maybe.

tony draper
4th Aug 2006, 08:14
Hmmm,possibly you are correct,one spelt it as one thunk it,anyway when it was compiled they did not believe in spelling as such.
One is a map man oneself and have copies of many of the earliest maps of my country and area.

Buster Hyman
4th Aug 2006, 08:14
Well, my ancestors are in it...has some comment next to the name about perennial tax avoider or sumfink!

4th Aug 2006, 08:29
...one thinks William the Bastard was a bit ticked of with us Geordies, or we told his inspectors to **** off... With their lines of supply running through Yorkshire (County motto "Hear All, See All, Say Nowt; Eat All, Sup All, Pay Nowt."), the Normans were obliged to rule Durham and Northumberland by proxy, through The Prince Bishops of Durham.

Edward: "Whey its William the Bastard!"
William: "Aye, and its that bugger Ned."
(The Mayor of Newcastle greeting King William 1st - according to '1066 And All That')

tony draper
4th Aug 2006, 08:55
One's researches into the Doomsday/Domesday Book have revealed this website, it should interest Mr Davaar being full of latin legal phrases,and revealing that the paper shufflers have long been with us.


Erwin Schroedinger
4th Aug 2006, 09:01
Doomsday never covered the North East of England
Probably took one look and decided not to waste the ink.


4th Aug 2006, 09:28
Whey get back in yer box wi' the cat Schroedinger, tha divn't knar wha'tha's tarkin aboot.

Erwin Schroedinger
4th Aug 2006, 09:31
A definitly dant noo wa thas tockin aboot!

Tha wons ta lurn ta tock proper laiyk!


4th Aug 2006, 09:47
The first thought that struck me about all this is that it all started in 1068 and they have just got it on line - that must set a record, even for our government, for IT delays. Anyway my diary says today's Friday not Domesday.


Farmer 1
4th Aug 2006, 10:41
Yorkshire (County motto "Hear All, See All, Say Nowt; Eat All, Sup All, Pay Nowt.")... "An' if thee ever dis owt for nowt, dee it for thisen."

5th Aug 2006, 00:00
Another version - the North Riding motto - goes "Owt fer nowt and tuppence change..." A common saying in Middlesbrough, as wor tony can attest.

'Tis said that the Normans never included Durham and Northumberland in yon Domesday book because the clerks never reached there. The Yorkies had rustled all their horses.

tony draper
5th Aug 2006, 00:15
A Middlesbourgh chap owes Drapes money for sub contract work undertaken on his behalf,should one ever bump into him again,he will know pain.:suspect:
Don't think Middlesbough featured in yon domesday book its only been there five bloody minutes,only changed from a village when all the Chemical works moved from the banks of the Tyne after the great fire of Gateshead.
Sunderland does appears in the Domesday Book,although it was not called Sunderland then, it says. This land situated by a reeking swamp belongs to Olaf the Silly, a cloven minded leper and keeper of swine,shunned by all the tribes to the north, it is a wretched place that will never amount to anything it is not worth taxing, in latin of course.

5th Aug 2006, 00:23
Mydilsburgh is the earliest recorded form of Middlesbrough's name and dates to Saxon times. 'Burgh' refers to an ancient settlement, or perhaps a fort of pre-Saxon origin which may have been situated on slightly elevated land close to the Tees. 'Mydil' was either the name of an Anglo-Saxon or a reference to Middlesbrough's middle location, half way between the Christian centres of Durham and Whitby. In Anglo-Saxon times Middlesbrough was certainly the site of a chapel or cell belonging to Whitby Abbey but despite this early activity, Middlesbrough was still only a small farm of twenty five people as late as 1801.

In 1829 a group of Quaker businessmen headed by Joseph Pease of Darlington purchased this Middlesbrough farmstead and its estate and set about the development of what they termed `Port Darlington' on the banks of the Tees nearby. A town was planned on the site of the farm to supply labour to the new coal port - Middlesbrough was born.

tony draper
5th Aug 2006, 00:30
True but tiz only since ICI closed all its works that anybody has actually seen the place,

Twas not called Smoggytown for nowt:rolleyes:

5th Aug 2006, 00:53
Twas not called Smoggytown for nowtThat were the steel smelters tony. They swapped 'em for ICI Wilton which is still running. Its Billingham that's re-appeared from the yellow haze since the Durham bank of the Tees went hoi-poloi and moved into IT and other 'service industries.'

On a recent visit, I noticed some interesting 'service industry' workers out and about in Stockton of a saturday night... :rolleyes: A disreputable, run-down seventies vintage hotel now stands on the site of the fortified manor house belonging to the Bishop of Durham that is mentioned in the Domesday Boke and which gives rise to the "castle" in the town's coat of arms.

5th Aug 2006, 06:00

It has been rumoured that the only village that exisited in England at the time of the Doomsday Book that is not recorded in it is Yeadon in Yorkshire.
This is because Yeadon sits on top of a largish hill and when William's men came to the area to audit the locals they were unable to find the village, shrouded, as it was, in fog.
Those in the know will remember that Leeds Bradford airport lies on the top of that hill and that it is, still today, much subject to fog. The original airport was seriously extended during WW11 to accomodate the Avro factory and to give pilots a first hand experience of the pleasures of operating basically equipped aircraft into a weather hazardous airfield.
In fact, at the roundabout at the entrance to the airport access road there is a small menhir, originally one of several. These were originally placed up one side of the hill and down the other in order to allow for safe navigation through the mists.:)

5th Aug 2006, 16:48
Surely it's not. 'Domesday' maybe.what if they celebrated 1066 the way we celebrated the milenium, would they have a Domesday Doom?

5th Aug 2006, 16:49
during WW11 eleven! :ooh:

5th Aug 2006, 17:09
London aint in it either......... :ok:

5th Aug 2006, 17:29

London wouldn't be in The Doomsday Book. Its was directed at the countryside and at those areas not already listed and paying taxes.

5th Aug 2006, 18:03
I have a cousin who once owned a sheep farm recorded in the Doomsday Book. Not much had changed since 1081. Sheep farming is not the idyllic pastime some might think.