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tony draper
31st Jul 2006, 20:55
Interesting doc on at the mo about the building of the Millau Viaduct in France,should one say it would be a interesting doc if it was not being ruined by a totaly feckwit overdramatic over the top Commentry.
The technology for producing documentry programs, CGI and such, is fantastic these day but why do they increasingly spoil their product by dumbing down the narrative to imbecile level.
:suspect:

Unwell_Raptor
31st Jul 2006, 21:06
It's a stunning piece of engineering, and like Concorde (another Franco-Brit production) it reaches the level of art.

I have made three return journeys over it so far, and it is a breathtaking experience. I can't tell you what the view over the edge is like because my wife forbade me to look.

AcroChik
31st Jul 2006, 21:12
You make an excellent point. This happens in the States as well, in the extreme. Television narrators ~ mostly mental flatliners ~ whose only function is to be camera fodder ~ talk to the audiences of all ages as if they are half-witted children.

I can't recall my parents ever speaking to me in this condescending way, as if I couldn't understand even the most basic ideas. Of course, this tactic television chooses destroys any real value these works might have in teaching people anything.

I recently experienced a truly egregious example of this in connection with the wonderful documentary flick, March of the Penguins. It's a brilliant movie about the survival and breeding strategies of Emperor penguins in Antarctica. SEE IT!

Here in the States, the intelligent narration (whew, what a delightful change), is by sonorous actor Morgan Freeman. The scientific aspects aren't deeply explained, but touched on well enough to be satisfying and fill one with wonder.

Just recently, I had occassion to see the German release (I understand the language just fine) of this same film. Instead of a single narrator telling the story, cute human voices were given to the animals and the film became something else ~ something much less ~ all together.

It was no longer a poetic investigation of the complex and dangerous lives these fabulously beautiful animals live in the world's most challenging environment. It instead had been turned into a shallow cartoon version of that reality.

What a travesty!

(rant over)

G-CPTN
31st Jul 2006, 21:25
The technology for producing documentry programs, CGI and such, is fantastic these day but why do they increasingly spoil their product by dumbing down the narrative to imbecile level.
:suspect:
I went with my 28-year old University-graduate (theoretical physics!) son to the Science Museum to see a special exhibition about nanotechnology. It was aimed at 8-year olds, with inter-active (simple) question-and-answer displays. :yuk:
We DID, however enjoy the 'analysis of a Tsunami'. The Boxing Day Tsunami had not long happened, and they had satellite photographs (images?) of the waves striking the shore at several locations and stages. It was stuck in a corner . . .

AcroChik
31st Jul 2006, 21:29
What we're speaking of here is the Disneyfication of thought.

One's poignantly aware that in France intellectuals ~ though they be socialists, existentialists and deconstructonists ~ are heros and heroines. Here in 'merika, if you can pronounce nuclear you're suspected of being an arrogant elitist with unpatriotic views.

Evening Star
31st Jul 2006, 21:38
What we're speaking of here is the Disneyfication of thought.

One's poignantly aware that in France intellectuals ~ though they be socialists, existentialists and deconstructonists ~ are heros and heroines. Here in 'merika, if you can pronounce nuclear you're suspected of being an arrogant elitist with unpatriotic views.

Not just in 'merika. Although our home grown version of the same is arrogant elitist with geekish views:ugh:. (Me a chip on my shoulder? Never!:{)

Krystal n chips
1st Aug 2006, 10:00
Interesting doc on at the mo about the building of the Millau Viaduct in France,should one say it would be a interesting doc if it was not being ruined by a totaly feckwit overdramatic over the top Commentry.
The technology for producing documentry programs, CGI and such, is fantastic these day but why do they increasingly spoil their product by dumbing down the narrative to imbecile level.
:suspect:

The useful piece of information he offered about working and, er falling, from such heights, was quite a revelation to me ! :ugh: :rolleyes:

Other than that, a fascinating insight regarding the project :ok:

lexxity
1st Aug 2006, 10:09
I too really enjoy watching documentaries but on many occasions have had to turn the t.v. off because of the dire OTT narration. The first programme that springs to mind is "Seconds From Disaster." Factually it is correct, but the narration and dum-dum-dum music make it unwatchable.

AcroChick I love Morgan Freeman, his voice is just so engaging.

tony draper
1st Aug 2006, 10:35
Yeh thats another thing, why do they have to have feckin digital drum tracks behind every bloody commentary now.
:uhoh:

rustle
1st Aug 2006, 10:39
You'd think that with today's technology you could have a choice of commentary.

Maybe the default commentary could be the dumbass one (so the muppets don't have to change anything and will keep watching) but there could be a more sensible commentary by pressing the red button ;)

DVD's have multiple soundtracks. SKY broadcast multiple "interactive" features. The technology is available maybe the desire isn't.

Davaar
1st Aug 2006, 11:24
Here in 'merika, if you can pronounce nuclear you're suspected of being an arrogant elitist with unpatriotic views.

Whereas in Britain the shibboleth is "Admirality"; and for those of other interests "Athaletic".