View Full Version : MIG-29 at Zhukovsky
XM147
19th Jul 2006, 15:34
This is quite a video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1349697433246487433
Fox3snapshot
19th Jul 2006, 17:24
:eek:
Hi corrumba! Pretty amazing piece of kit, defies a few of the more common principals of flight!
:ok:
Navaleye
19th Jul 2006, 18:43
Nothing an F3 couldn't do. :eek: :hmm: :ugh:
oldbeefer
19th Jul 2006, 19:22
Navaleye - nice to see you still have a sense of humour!
The Helpful Stacker
19th Jul 2006, 19:26
Well an F3 could try.......:eek:
Roamer
19th Jul 2006, 20:56
Nothing an F3 couldn't do. :eek: :hmm: :ugh:
I'm guessing the F3 don't open it's canopy halfway down the runway !!!..lol
Pity that, in the real world, he 'd suck an AMRAAM at 30+ miles....
Still, I bet the bits fluttering down would do a few nice back flips and rolls.... :hmm:
Daifly
19th Jul 2006, 21:43
It's been displaying at Farnborough all week and is fecking stunning.
Green Flash
20th Jul 2006, 07:06
Displayed at RIAT and it was the dogs conkers there too. Nice idea to put the OVT and the F-18 on back to back, gave a nice contrast between the vectoring jet and a standard jet (although flown by the decidedly non-standard Ric T again!). Agreed, Mr BVR might have a wry smile on his face but I wouldn't put it past Pavel & co to out-turn it! Still, fantasmagorical piece of kit. :ok:
FlightDetent
20th Jul 2006, 10:05
Hey, I'm no FJ jock, but I can land like that!:E
Here's a pic I took at Fairford on Saturday, you can see the angle of the nozzles quite clearly
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h269/wub_01/Fairford524.jpg
NoseGunner
20th Jul 2006, 15:52
Yes, fortunately they spent money on the F3 to make it a capable fighter, not to look good at airshows.
I know bait bitten but I can't help myself!:p
Dogfish
20th Jul 2006, 19:04
Saw the dispay at Fairford and it was truly amazing. I was lucky enough to have a few words with the pilot at the hanger bash, just after he had been awarded the prize for the best display and just before the annual bread roll fight really got going. The man is as mad as a bucket of eels but he was more than willing to talk to some of the mere mortals at the party. Nice bloke,top display.:D
phil gollin
21st Jul 2006, 06:48
The back-flip at about 2 mins 50 sec is just weird
Runaway Gun
21st Jul 2006, 09:32
Very impressive! Was the back flip a super form of the ole' Cobra high AOA manouver?
BillHicksRules
21st Jul 2006, 11:37
NG,
Yes, fortunately they spent money on the F3 to make it a capable fighter, not to look good at airshows.
I know bait bitten but I can't help myself!:p
Shame they failed at that too.
Cheers
BHR
Green Flash
21st Jul 2006, 17:06
Dogfish
I also managed a quick chat with Mr Mig in the flight center. He seemed quiet genuinly impressed that alot of people were eagerly awaiting his display. I suppose to him it's the day job.
NoseGunner
21st Jul 2006, 18:11
BHR
I don't agree with those that say that this is a forum for professional pilots and none else gets a say, but I think you should be careful of making sweeping statements on matters that squash, politics, Kilmarnock FC and a sales job really don't qualify you for.
For example I would never say that Kilmarnock are rubbish and are about as likely to play entertaining football as Bush is to go to North Korea for his summer hols - cos I'm not really qualified! :p
But hey you've made over a thousand posts so you must know what you are talking about!
BillHicksRules
21st Jul 2006, 19:47
NG,
BHR
I don't agree with those that say that this is a forum for professional pilots and none else gets a say, but I think you should be careful of making sweeping statements on matters that squash, politics, Kilmarnock FC and a sales job really don't qualify you for.
For example I would never say that Kilmarnock are rubbish and are about as likely to play entertaining football as Bush is to go to North Korea for his summer hols - cos I'm not really qualified! :p
But hey you've made over a thousand posts so you must know what you are talking about!
Cos as my profile is that is all I have ever been and experienced, eh?
Of course you were born and Nose Gunner and have always been a Nose Gunner, eh?:ugh: :ugh:
Cheers
BHR
:) :)
NoseGunner
21st Jul 2006, 21:49
Well I was trying to work out your background and you remind me of a lot of old F4 guys I've come across - but I don't think you are! Also I don't understand the Bill Hicks thing!:confused:
My point was that unless you are currently actively involved in FJ stuff and have recent experience in a field then its hard to comment on. If I may use the mighty BEagle as an example - he knows lots about lots and even used to fly an F4 (I think) but I wouldn't really value his opinion on current FJ ops. Of course, I would never dream of correcting him on matters CAA!!
On the other hand I suppose this is a rumour network and is full of people spouting on matters of which they have no idea, so maybe I should relax a little and not worry so much!:zzz:
Cheers
Conan the Librarian
21st Jul 2006, 23:01
I loved the MiG display at Fairford and some fairly obscene contradictions of popular aerodynamics were in evidence. What I want to know, is how they kept the donks turning. The angle off was right through 360 degrees (twice, on the double somersault and the changes were SO abrupt) and yet the engines didn't complain or (thankfully) go a bit quiet. I am sure that there were for instance, some rueful former F-14 or F-111 drivers there, that simply do not believe what they saw. Credit, where credit is due. I think that to be the most emphatic display of care free handling that I have ever seen. The engine might not last as long as the equivalent western unit, but by G - it keeps going.
What a stunning display and thank you Mig, for bringing it here.
Conan
Green Flash
22nd Jul 2006, 10:11
Conan
Does the OVT have some sort of blow-in doors above and/or below the intake trunks? Even if there is no 'ram' flow through the intakes if the hole is big enough you can suck hard! (a la hovering Harrier, etc). Dunno. Mayby the Tumansky? boys know a thing or two about donks!
The aircraft appears to have blow-in doors above the intakes
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h269/wub_01/Fairford538a.jpg
mcidiot
22nd Jul 2006, 16:46
The aircraft appears to have blow-in doors above the intakes
Those are, I'm told, doors which enable the a/c to taxi with doors covering the in-takes closed, to prevent FOD damage on poor quality run and taxi ways
http://www.flymig.com/wallpaper/1024x768/MiG-29.Taxi.jpg
Saying that, display :eek: was good at Farnborough yesterday
:D :D :D