Thai / Air France incident 15 July

[planeenglish]

http://www.elpais.es/articulo/espana/avion/pasajeros/choca/aparcado/Barajas/produzcan/heridos/elpporesp/20060715elpepunac_4/Tes/
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i262/planeenglish/recorte.jpg

[ETOPS]

And in English

http://etna.mcot.net/query.php?nid=23353

[Dani]

This is not an Air France aircraft, it belongs to Air Regional, which is AF subsidiary regional company.

Dani

[southern duel]

Looks like a little Fokker to me instead of a EMB.

Just one question though , The wingtip of a B747 would pass over the wingtip of a Fokker very easily so I would suggest that the wingtip of the B747 hit the Tail of the French aircraft. The picture also suggests this with the air france colour scheme in the picture which one would suggest comes from the tail.


Thoughts !!!

[Off Stand]

It is an EMB, the 744 took the tail clean off. It is being discussed in depth on the airliners.net forum.

[Golf Charlie Charlie]

Spotters or not, the aircraft was F-GOHC, which is an Embraer ERJ-135. Case closed.

[I am Birddog]

Does anyone have any information on when, why and how and who was at fault for this little taxiing incedent?
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c26/iambirddog/thai.jpg
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c26/iambirddog/thai1.jpg
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c26/iambirddog/thai2.jpg
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c26/iambirddog/thai3.jpg

Appreciated.

[barryt]

Think the answer to that is pretty obvious. If anything was taxiing in this incident, it must have been the 747 judging by the damage to it. Unless the smaller bird was pushed back into it...but you mentioned the word "taxi"..:rolleyes:

[flyblue]

It happened on the 15th of July. The 747 had left its parking at Terminal 1 and was taxiing towards the runway on the wrong taxi way. Pilots' mistake it seems, but then they taxied almost a Km without anyone noticing.

[Onions]

If they taxied almost a kilometer before anyone noticed how come the Thai aircraft is pictured above about 10 feet away? Did they come back to exchange insurance details??

[Dan Air 87]

I'd love to read the accident report. I hope there were a few witnesses to prove that it was nothing to do with the way that the French jet was parked. Will the Thai pilot lose his no claims bonus?

[ehwatezedoing]

If they taxied almost a kilometer before anyone noticed how come the Thai aircraft is pictured above about 10 feet away? Did they come back to exchange insurance details??
Maybe because they did this Kilometer in the wrong taxiway/direction before hitting the tail :hmm:

[London Mil]

As the doctor would say, "at least it's a clean break'.:hmm:

[Taildragger67]

If they taxied almost a kilometer before anyone noticed how come the Thai aircraft is pictured above about 10 feet away? Did they come back to exchange insurance details??

I suggest the previous poster meant that the 747 entered the wrong taxiway and taxied almost a kilometer without incident before anyone noticed (ie. when they collided with the smaller aircraft). Not that they hit the smaller a/c and trundled on their merry way.

[Onions]

Misunderstood previous post. Having re read I now understand.:\

I'll get my coat.

[flyblue]

Sorry Onions, on re reading my post I realized it was (unintentionally) misleading. Indeed the 747 taxiied without anyone noticing he was on the wrong taxiway for almost a Km before hitting the ERJ.

[Charles Darwin]

Grouphug!:E

[Dan Air 87]

I wonder what the Control Tower said to the Thai pilot. Its easily done though. Sometimes the biggest danger to aircraft is not when they are flying-its when they are on the ground! If the bloody catering truck doesn't slam into the fuselage then something like this happens!

[nivsy]

While being a "stick in the mud" - come on easily done? As a pax all we ask for is the competent people "up front" to take us safely from A to B - and I suppose tecnology and computerisation does so much of that these days in respect of the art of actually flying the aircraft its a bit of a bad show when they cant even taxi the darn things without hitting one another - or maybe I am just having an off day - I know accidents can happen etc etc.....:(

[Taildragger67]

The Thai guy gets bonus points. Managed to take the other aircraft's tail clean off, without sustaining other damage to his own a/c :} . Unlike this relative amateur: http://www.airdisaster.com/photos/asiana-anc/photo.shtml :eek: :ok:

A written description of that fun & games: http://www.aviationpics.de/ramp/alaska/altext.htm

[Dream Land]

Careful, the air disaster link is full of pop ups.:*

[mansaloco]

Boeing or aint going, "Built tough"

Had this been a 380 we would be looking at a wing on the ground

[planeenglish]

Hello everyone,

I was first told about this incident becasue it may have had something to do with lack of English language proficiency. Can anyone confirm this?

Also, not that it matters, but mansaloco, if it had been a A380 wouldn't the wing have cleared the other, considerably, smaller aircraft? Perhaps I didn't understand the comment.
Thank you,
PE

Something in French here (http://www.crash-aerien.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1708)...

[FLR-PSA]

mansaloco: How can you support such a crazy statement?

[I am Birddog]

Boeing or aint going, "Built tough"

Had this been a 380 we would be looking at a wing on the ground

:)

Oh common now!! I have flown in both types and Airbus as far ahead as the technology is, they are made out of paper. A passenger can't hold a drink on the tray without wearing during light to meduim chop!!!

You know it's true :=

You guy's are too much...this is funny!!! Please continue :D I'm enjoying this. :ok:

[B A Lert]

It sure gives a new meaning to 'tail strike'!! :D

Where, and when, did this happen?

[planeenglish]

B A Lert,

Here's one story. (http://etna.mcot.net/query.php?nid=23353) Then, here's what Thai says officially. (http://www.thaiair.com/About_Thai/Newsroom/Press_Release/Press_Year_2006/press0706_acc1.htm)

Best,
PE

[MaxTOW]

I can just imagine Maxwell Smart saying "Just didn't....miss by this much"....while handing his hands about two feet apart. Funny how there is a 1 km run before a 2 foot mishap. Poor bloke.:bored:

[wub]

How can Thai Corporate Communications say in their 'clarification' of the incident, that their 747 collided with the wing of a Fokker, when in fact it took the tail off an Embraer?

[brain fade]

As a 145 pilot, I'm just a wee bit worried that the tail snapped off rather than simply causing the Barbie to swing 'round.

Guess it must be true what they say about rudder reversal!:eek:

[MoateAir]

Ah, but you you should have seen the 27 other fokkers he taxied past before he hit this one.


Someone had to say it.....

[Sir George Cayley]

If you lurk carefully at the pictures, Hastings, you will perceive ne cest pas that there are some - how do you say - work in progress barriers to ze gauche of the Thai Djuumbo.

Could it be, mon ami, that there was a restriction temporaire of the width of the taxiway a ce moment which caused the leviathan to strike the aeroplane of Air France a mighty blow?

No doubt BEA will reveal all at the end of the Act quattre.

Sir George Cayley

[old,not bold]

Its easily done though.

Run that past me again, please?

Just how easy is it to swipe the tail off another aircraft in broad daylight?

I know it was quite a small one, but are eye tests a thing of the past?