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B A Lert
2nd Jul 2006, 00:46
From the Sydney Morning Herald web-site

Bulldogs Origin player in trouble following bomb joke in plane



James MacSmith
July 2, 2006

QUEENSLAND State of Origin forward Nate Myles has been embroiled in a security incident on board a flight from Sydney to Melbourne.

A comment from the 21-year-old Bulldogs prop to teammate Hazem El Masri, a Muslim, was overheard by a Qantas flight attendant and was then passed on to Sydney Airport security.

The plane's departure was delayed by 30 minutes as Bulldogs chief executive Malcolm Noad, coach Steve Folkes and Myles were interviewed by security staff.

Myles was not charged over the comment.

The incident occurred on June 22 on Qantas flight 427 as the Bulldogs travelled to Melbourne to play the Melbourne Storm the following night at Olympic Park.

Last night Myles's manager Chris Orr said his client was "embarrassed and remorseful" about the incident.

"Terrorism is of course a serious thing, but this is just a little remark made to a teammate that didn't mean anything," Orr said.

"Nate knows he has done the wrong thing and has apologised for the trouble he has caused. He understands that airplane staff are required to pass on anything they hear like that, but at the end of the day it was just a silly little comment that has gotten out of hand.

"He is a good young player and a good young bloke and is embarrassed and remorseful about what has occurred.

"Nate was not charged by airport security and was told that is where the matter will rest. It was all just an unfortunate incident.

"He knows it was a silly thing to say and that that Qantas staff and airport security were doing their job in following it up. It was a joke gone wrong and is a lesson learned and he has now put it behind him."

The Sun-Herald has been told the incident unfolded after a player joked about sitting in business class.

El Masri took the seat and Myles reportedly said: "They won't move you, you've got the bombs strapped on."

A Bulldogs official confirmed last night that Myles had been reprimanded over the incident and regretted his actions.

Myles is one of rugby league's brightest rising stars and his services are being chased by six NRL clubs.

He is likely to leave the Bulldogs at season's end - not because of this incident, but because salary cap pressure will have forced him away from the club.

He will play for Queensland in the State of Origin decider in Melbourne on Wednesday.

"He just wants to put this unfortunate incident behind him and play some football," Orr said.

Why does Qantas allow such clown to get away with his loose talk with just a wrap over the knuckles when other non-entities have been prosecuted and fined heavily? So much for the stern message about security being a serious matter that is published in the Qantas in flight magazine. If Qantas is serious, then this very minor celebrity should be prosecuted all the way so as to really set an example to anyone who even dares think about making light of security issues.

Shame on Qantas Security Dept and anyone esle connected with this incident - there could hardly be any mitigating circumstances.

TIMMEEEE
2nd Jul 2006, 01:14
The head of the NRL is basically limp-wristed.

Heavy fines (at least equivalent to the cost of a 30 minute delay) should be levelled at this player personally due to the inconvenience let alone stupidity!!!

The NRL board repeatedly lets these idiots get away with blatant stupidity and inconveniencing the public.
If it was any one of us we would have been sentenced and fined a fortune.
Why should these twits get away with it ??

Admittedly the airlines have contracts with these guys and will not jeapardise that income stream, but you'd think the NRL board/judiciary would at least fine this pratt so nobody else will do the same.

Would be great if QF/VB had a joint agreement not to carry fools that have made foolish comments as did TAA/Ansett years ago with misbehaving individuals/footy teams etc.

sinala1
2nd Jul 2006, 01:34
TIMEEEE I have heard, although not 100% certain, that there is a shared blacklist... I have had pax blacklisted before and been told that they would no longer be accepted for travel with our major competitor either.

As for the NRL bomb-joke, I found this comment, from the Courier Mail website, (http://www.thecouriermail.news.com.au/story/0,20797,19653160-5003402,00.html) to be entirely innappropriate:

"Unfortunately these guys have said something in jest and it's gone on a little bit further than what it should have,"

That comment was made by Gavin Orr, who is the manager of the player who made the comment. Is he trying to imply that the crew over-reacted?? What a moron, for that comment alone he should be banned from flying - and the player involved should be fined for the cost of the delay, and compensation for all the delayed pax :mad:

LewC
2nd Jul 2006, 01:35
Isn't this a matter for the Australian Federal Police? QANTAS,the NRL and the morons from the Bulldogs don't have any say as to whether or not legal action should be taken against Mr. Myles,even if he is "a rising star".

B A Lert
2nd Jul 2006, 01:50
Isn't this a matter for the Australian Federal Police? QANTAS,the NRL and the morons from the Bulldogs don't have any say as to whether or not legal action should be taken against Mr. Myles,even if he is "a rising star".

You're right Lew but did anyone tell the AFP at the time, or were those involved, and their minders and managers, too busy trying defuse (sorry!) the matter to make the best of a bad situation? A full enquiry is needed. What must the travelling public think?

LewC
2nd Jul 2006, 02:11
No doubt "defusing" was the #1 prioity,but it seems that the Sunday Telegraph have now informed both the office of the Acting Minister for Transport Lloyd as well as the AFP.Both stated that they had previously been unaware of the matter but can now hardly offer ignorance as a reason for no action.I don't imagine that the statute of limitations has kicked in yet as the incident only occurred ten days ago.Also does the carrier has a legal obligation to report incidents of this kind to either the DOT or AFP rather than presuming to act as jury and judge.

OZBUSDRIVER
2nd Jul 2006, 02:29
League players HMPFFFF! 4 year old brain in a neanderthal suit.

Enema Bandit's Dad
2nd Jul 2006, 05:44
I'm at a loss as to why they still allowed him to travel.

priapism
2nd Jul 2006, 06:36
I guess the NRL contract is worth too much .
Any individual pax would be hauled off the aircraft and charged .

This bloke should be banned. Is it possible for the FAAA to impose a blackban on this idiot?

Desert Dingo
2nd Jul 2006, 07:57
You lot really amaze me.
There are other threads on this site rubbishing airport security as just window dressing and pilots should be exempt from being checked.
Now you want to hang a passenger for making a stupid comment.
Just how many terrorists have ever been caught because they were overheard discussing their bomb while boarding the aircraft??
Whatever happened to logic and common sense?
:confused:

Manwell
2nd Jul 2006, 09:26
Thankyou Desert Dingo for injecting some sanity into this issue.

Frankly, I'm ashamed to think that most replies on this incident seek to crucify the football player for making a tension elicited joke to his mate, Hazim El Masri, who is of Middle Eastern origin - therefore, any obvious terrorist suspect.

Just because our government have lost their minds and are running around like chooks with their heads cut off doesn't compel us to follow their example. What do you all think of a society where people are compelled to dob in their peers for doing nothing more than trying to lighten a tense situation?

Do we all agree that little old ladies should have their knitting needles and nail files confiscated in case they attempt to hijack the aeroplane? What level of stupidity do we need to sink to before we recognise it as insanity?

Look at the big picture, is this the sort of behaviour that Australians have become reknowned for, or are we made of sterner stuff that laughs at the overblown anxiety of our elected representatives who seek to inflate their significance?

Accept this fact, if we behave like frantic fools, the terrorists have won.

Minimbah
2nd Jul 2006, 09:52
Manwell!

I agree with your post. What we need here is a dose of good old Australian “nouse”! On the other hand, a bloke I know in the security industry has a moto of “Remember, only the paranoid survive”. Somewhere between those two statements above there is a balance, the trick is finding it AND teaching people where the line is.

Minimbah

Taildragger67
2nd Jul 2006, 13:02
Yeah but it was a pretty stupid (and pointless) thing to say.

LewC
3rd Jul 2006, 01:23
This kind of check-in humour has already seen a number of "jokers" charged and fined up to $3000.Those suckers probably weren't "rising NRL stars" but their convictions seem to have established a solid precedent for dealing with stupidity of this nature.The fact that the "joke" delayed departure of the flight for 30 minutes possibly causing inconvenience and even cost to other passengers would justify the clown being charged.Unless,of course, Manwell is suggesting that different rules should apply to medium profile NRL fools.

Desert Dingo
3rd Jul 2006, 02:12
From Courier Mail
(my bolding)Bulldogs prop Nathan Miles allegedly asked fellow team-mate Hazem el-Masri if he had a bomb strapped to him as the team boarded a flight in Sydney last week.
Answer these questions.
a) Do you think a real terrorist would be dumb enough to make this sort of remark when boarding the aircraft?
b) They had already passed through the security check at this stage and if they had any items like highly dangerous nail files they would have been confiscated. Do you think they would still have a bomb with them?
Just how paranoid are you?
Full marks to Qantas for using a bit of common sense for a change.

Sunfish
3rd Jul 2006, 06:19
No, it's not common sense at all. While middle eastern professionals might not be talking about bombs as they walk to the aircraft, there are plenty of mentally disturbed types who can and do talk about what they are going to do to people before they do it. Martin Bryant comes immediately to mind.

If you joke about hijackings and bombs in an airport or aircraft, you must be F&*^ed in the head, and you deserve to have the book thrown at you and make the "no fly" list. But what do you expect from football players?

Minimbah
3rd Jul 2006, 06:35
Common Sense??? The only common sense Qantas was using was not jeopardising their deal with the NRL. I don’t usually agree with Sunfish, but this time he’s right. One rule for everyone. No exceptions.

I’d rather be paranoid than dead in a situation like this!

Minimbah

Thai997
3rd Jul 2006, 06:48
What about the VERY senior official from the INDONESIAN EMBASSY (I.C) who made a bomb threat a few years ago between SY and CB on a Qantas flight ??

Considering the security environment that existed at the time and his position, im surprised the incident didnt make bigger press.