Postkontraken (Norwegian Mail Contract)

[joerkaaff]

http://www.dn.no/forsiden/naringsliv/article790018.ece

Anyone with performance info on the ATP or HS748 with regards to:

- JAR-OPS 1.245(a)(1) or (2) criteria (60 or 120 minutes S/E from adequate aerodrome) on the awarded Tromsø - Svalbard - Tromsø route?
- JAR-OPS 1.295 requrements for destination alternate(s) on the same route?

It's roughly a 550 NM mile stretch without alternates available on Svalbard.

[captaink]

Instead of being

[tracon]

Does anyone know when the contract will start?, should be plenty of hiring for West Air Sweden to staff eight A/C with crew.

:D New jobs in Norway as well as i Sweden

[Griffin]

It would be VERY interesting if "Posten" knows about this and if West Air will care about it at all... (Unfair competition and playing with safety) Nowdays only low cost counts as we all know. Rules and regs are not followed by many of the the smaller carriers as they should, and we all know it. WHERE IS LT!!!???

[BestGlide]

Tromsø - Longyearbyen will NOT be flown with ATP or HS. West Air will wet lease a jet to fly the route.

[marsipulami]

Yep, it should be done by a wetleased CRJ200

[RoosterBoost]

Does anyone know about the interviews? Are they all completed? And what are the required flight-hours?

[deice]

Any truth to the rumour about operating ATRs at Westair? I thought it might be in Normay but perhaps it too has insufficient performance for the long north routes.

/Deice

[Norwegian1]

Hello!

The required flight-hours are as follows:

Captain: 3000 TT which 1000 hours twin engine.
First Officer: 500 TT which 200 hours twin engine and MCC.

I think they still looking for Captain's, F/O i am not sure.

They will be operating an ATR72 but i don't know yet if this will be in Norway or some other country. The primary aircraft for flying the Norwegian mail will be done with the BAE ATP and CRJ200 leased to fly Tromsø-Svalbard route.

Good luck to you all, fly safe! :ok:

[jetflyger]

Med over 2000 pic i CRJ'n hadde det kanskje vaert morro aa dra tilbake til gamle Tromso og fly en stund...

CRJ'n er vel wet-leased fra Cimber tenker jeg...

[Crossunder]

Synes faktisk det er litt trist at ikke et norsk selskap skal kunne ta dette... Blir jo bare færre og færre selskap i Norge!!! :rolleyes:

[deice]

On the other hand Norwegian is starting traffic from Arlanda. Too bad that's not a swedish company... I guess what goes around comes around.

[Crossunder]

You're missing my point here. Arlanda, Oslo, Copenhagen - all have national carriers operating alongside foreign carriers. And that's good - competition is good. And I'm not saying that West Air is taking "our" jobs - they'll probably want to hire Norwegians: I'm just pointing out the fact that Norway no longer has any small charter/mail/freight/ad-hoc-companies (well - not THAT many, anyway), because SK/WF etc. are handling it all. I miss the colour and diversity. :)

[Norwegian]

Any news about work scheduele, Bases of aircraft, other conditions (Pay,Pension insurance etc) Bonding/selfunding TR???

[Norwegian1]

Hello!

For new FO's the work schedule will be 6 week's on & 3 week's off.

I think one a/c will be based in West and one in the North and the main base for the rest of the a/c will be Oslo/Gardermoen.

You can choose 2 ways: either to pay the TR up front cash or bond yourself with the company for 3 years, draw SEK 5 500,- pr/month which gives about SEK 200 000,- for the BAE ATP TR.

Hope this was to some help!

Best Regards! :ok:

[Hairy Hound]

Hi.

Does anybody know the interview format and content?

What is used for the sim check ride?

Route information seems to be a little difficult to establish so any help here would be brilliant too.

Any help would be most appreciated and might help me turn a long struggle into an achievement to be proud of.:)

[CaptainProp]

Hello!

For new FO's the work schedule will be 6 week's on & 3 week's off.

I think one a/c will be based in West and one in the North and the main base for the rest of the a/c will be Oslo/Gardermoen.

You can choose 2 ways: either to pay the TR up front cash or bond yourself with the company for 3 years, draw SEK 5 500,- pr/month which gives about SEK 200 000,- for the BAE ATP TR.

Hope this was to some help!

Best Regards! :ok:

Thats criminal!! 200 k´s for a ATP rating?? I say go get a 737 or a business jet rating and get a proper job for that kind of money (maybe, just maybe add a little money to that figure...but then get a proper job!!)
There are SOOO many companies screaming for Citation/Falcon/Hawker and 737 pilots out in Europe/Middle east and Asia that getting a job once you have the rating will not be a "problem"...and it´s getting better and better out there for every day that goes by!! Just wait until sept/oct when people get back from their leave and recruitement picks up again!! It will get really good!!
/CP

[paradropper]

There are SOOO many companies screaming for Citation/Falcon/Hawker and 737 pilots out in Europe/Middle east and Asia that getting a job once you have the rating will not be a "problem"

Could you please elaborate? I have read and heard to many stories about people buying a rating on the 737 without getting a sniff of anything, unless they buy 3-500 hours on type.:ugh:

[Norwegian1]

Thats criminal!! 200 k´s for a ATP rating?? I say go get a 737 or a business jet rating and get a proper job for that kind of money (maybe, just maybe add a little money to that figure...but then get a proper job!!)
There are SOOO many companies screaming for Citation/Falcon/Hawker and 737 pilots out in Europe/Middle east and Asia that getting a job once you have the rating will not be a "problem"...and it´s getting better and better out there for every day that goes by!! Just wait until sept/oct when people get back from their leave and recruitement picks up again!! It will get really good!!
/CP

I try to look positive on things, yes 200 k's is a lot of money for a ATP TR because it isn't so many other companies around operating these aircrafts no more. On the other hand it isn't that many companies to day which offer bonding, they require that you have taken the TR before you can even apply for the job. A TR on the B737 may give you a intervju, but it is a long way to land the job especially if you don't have hours on the type which are mention here. If you take this bonding, you at least don't have to take up extra loan. The conditions are hard to begin with, but as the first years go by, it's getting better and better i think and you at least have a flying job and are current operational! And for me as a lowtimer i see this as a good way and start to my aviation caeer! I have landed my first job on an ATP a/c and are very happy! Think positive - work hard!:ok:

[CaptainProp]

I try to look positive on things, yes 200 k's is a lot of money for a ATP TR because it isn't so many other companies around operating these aircrafts no more. On the other hand it isn't that many companies to day which offer bonding, they require that you have taken the TR before you can even apply for the job. A TR on the B737 may give you a intervju, but it is a long way to land the job especially if you don't have hours on the type which are mention here. If you take this bonding, you at least don't have to take up extra loan. The conditions are hard to begin with, but as the first years go by, it's getting better and better i think and you at least have a flying job and are current operational! And for me as a lowtimer i see this as a good way and start to my aviation caeer! I have landed my first job on an ATP a/c and are very happy! Think positive - work hard!:ok:

I agree, "Think positive, work hard!" BUT, don´t forgett - Think smart, work hard...get a nice pay check sooner..... As a first job it´s not a bad job, just a crap deal!! What will you take home the first two years /month - 5500?? If you get on a 737/320 now (with a loco operator) you could pot. be in the left seat in 4-5 years (doing 850 hrs a year)....That would give you 100 000 euros / year, and on the way there you would be on an average of let´s say 45-50 k....

[Norwegian1]

I agree, "Think positive, work hard!" BUT, don´t forgett - Think smart, work hard...get a nice pay check sooner..... As a first job it´s not a bad job, just a crap deal!! What will you take home the first two years /month - 5500?? If you get on a 737/320 now (with a loco operator) you could pot. be in the left seat in 4-5 years (doing 850 hrs a year)....That would give you 100 000 euros / year, and on the way there you would be on an average of let´s say 45-50 k....

We all i think want to fly "big jet's" someday and is the natural step later in the career for many pilots. But for me personal the way of getting a loan of NOK 250 K's for a Airbus or Boeing TR is impossible with only a FI-A job! My tip is also to be sure you have a job before you buy such a expencive TR, remember if you don't get a job within a year, the PC on a Airbus or Boeing isn't cheep!

So this was my "door" into the big aviation world.

Ps! Yes, the pay is low the first couple of year's so i will not have the problem of being overweight!

Best regards!:ok:

[djuice]

We all i think want to fly "big jet's" someday and is the natural step later in the career for many pilots. But for me personal the way of getting a loan of NOK 250 K's for a Airbus or Boeing TR is impossible with only a FI-A job! My tip is also to be sure you have a job before you buy such a expencive TR, remember if you don't get a job within a year, the PC on a Airbus or Boeing isn't cheep!

So this was my "door" into the big aviation world.

Ps! Yes, the pay is low the first couple of year's so i will not have the problem of being overweight!

Best regards!:ok:

Go, go, go!!! :D

[djuice]

I agree, "Think positive, work hard!" BUT, don´t forgett - Think smart, work hard...get a nice pay check sooner..... As a first job it´s not a bad job, just a crap deal!! What will you take home the first two years /month - 5500?? If you get on a 737/320 now (with a loco operator) you could pot. be in the left seat in 4-5 years (doing 850 hrs a year)....That would give you 100 000 euros / year, and on the way there you would be on an average of let´s say 45-50 k....

:=

That's easy to say then done, you lucky b*******.

[CaptainProp]

Yes it is...But Im just trying to give some advice to those who are not yet where I am. I have done the whole turbo-prop freight/pax flying all over the world to get where I am... I had the opportunity to get better jobs along the way but refused to pay for something a "bit" better....So, it took me 6 years on a TP, two relationships (due to working up to 3 weeks at a time) and A LOT of my social life to get here...Now, if you can skip the whole turbo-prop swamp and get straight to a "airline" job, then for gods sake DO IT! With the industry looking the way it does I think you can get that, so maybe waiting a little bit longer for a much better deal is a good idea....

Good luck to you all!

/CP