colour vision problem

[chuchi]

i have completed a practical lantern test and fansworth latern test and my results show that i can only get a commercial licence in australian airspace, my aim is to fly as captain for an airline! has anyone else come across this problem and if so are there anyways in which i can go about holding an atpl?

thanks for your help, cheers chuchi

[rmcdonal]

Isn't there also the tower light test? Where the tower sends you a light signal and you have to tell them what colour it is. Or is that one of the tests you where talking about?

[Bill Smith]

Chuci,

There are many CV defectives flying around the world.
There is a practical lantern test that you can do, at the aerodrome, if this isn't the one ypu have done. Make sure you have done your homework before booking in at the local CASA office.
Mountains of information in the Medical forum on this.
Arthur Pape is the doctor that you should have a chat with. He is in Geelong.
He was instrumental in the getting the regulations changed in Australia.
If you can prove that you meet the standard under the ICAO regulations some other authorities may accept your licence overseas.
If flying Oz registered aircraft it shouldn't pose a problem.

Good Luck :ok:

[beerlover]

Hey mate in regards to the testing, I have done them all and the Tower testing is the most practicable. I passed the tower test and now have an ATPL and Command on the Dash 8.:ok: Good luck with it.

Beerlover

[chuchi]

Isn't there also the tower light test? Where the tower sends you a light signal and you have to tell them what colour it is. Or is that one of the tests you where talking about?

i havent yet completed the light signal test, which i believe is the one that you are refering to, do you know where this test can be done and what it consists of? thanks alot for your help;)

[chuchi]

Chuci,

There are many CV defectives flying around the world.
There is a practical lantern test that you can do, at the aerodrome, if this isn't the one ypu have done. Make sure you have done your homework before booking in at the local CASA office.
Mountains of information in the Medical forum on this.
Arthur Pape is the doctor that you should have a chat with. He is in Geelong.
He was instrumental in the getting the regulations changed in Australia.
If you can prove that you meet the standard under the ICAO regulations some other authorities may accept your licence overseas.
If flying Oz registered aircraft it shouldn't pose a problem.

Good Luck :ok:

what do you mean by make sure that you do your homework before booking at your local CASA office??
thanks alot for your help!!!!!!;)

[chuchi]

Hey mate in regards to the testing, I have done them all and the Tower testing is the most practicable. I passed the tower test and now have an ATPL and Command on the Dash 8.:ok: Good luck with it.

Beerlover

may i ask you where you did the light signal test and what it consisted of? im based in melbourne! i hope to get my atpl!
thanks alot for your help!

[Hugh Jarse]

Chuchi,

Trust Bill Smith's word. He has a great deal of knowledge in this area;)

[AlJassmi]

The CASA office at Moorabbin gets the tower to do light signal tests at times. They go down near the chopper hangers at a couple of distances and have the tower display the 3 different colours of the signal lamp.
If you're really smart you'll go along to the tower first and arrange the order of the lights. For an appropriate consideration of course! :E
On a more serious side, if you are concerned about passing pop along to
the tower and ask them if they'd give you a preview. You don't need to be airside - over by the museum and outside the CASA office :} would be a reasonable test distance.

[Bill Smith]

When I say do your homework, I mean read every possible document that you can get your hands on.
I am in no way inferring that you can "arrange" the order of the test.

CVD does not only affect pilots. When Airservices introduced new radar displays some controllers, that had previously been "A OK", were removed from there posts.
The good old bureaucracy at work !

Australia is lucky enough to have the opportunity to fly as a CVD. Unfortunately the momentum that was started by Dr Arthur Pape and an open minded director of Aviation medicine Dr Geoff Brock seems to have somewhat slowed over the years.

http://www.humanrights.gov.au/disability_rights/exemptions/casa/subs/pape.htm

[Pine Tree]

In addition to the advice given above, it might be worth checking with Melbourne Opthalmologist, Dr Martin Samuels who was one of two qualified medical practitioners in the Navy to train as pilots through the military system during the 1970's. I understand that he has an extensive background in representing colour vision cases to CASA.

As an Eye Specialist/Eye Surgeon and Pilot with a least a CPL (A) and CPL (H) he not only flew military jet aircraft in his training and afterwards, but also trained and flew various types of helicopters. He was flying commercial helicopters for a while in Melbourne (late 1980's early 1990's?) while still working as an Opthalmologist. Maybe he still is flying?

In anycase he would definitely have an undestanding of your problem and the relevant regulations. You may need a referral from your GP.