View Full Version : New 419 alert, from London

21st Apr 2006, 17:19
From London with love.

I am shamash din choudhry,British citizen and Principal assurance manager for the
HSBC in London. A staff of Yokozona consultancy firm got in touch with me regarding
the estate of Simeon Arag. And an investment placed under our banks management 3
years ago.I would respectfully request that you keep the contents of this mail
confidential and respect the integrity of the information you come by as a result of this
mail. I contact you independently of our investigation and no one is informed of this
communication.I would like to intimate you with certain facts that I believe would be of
interest to you.

In 1997, the subject matter; Simeon Arag came to our bank to engage in business
discussions with our private banking division. He informed us that he had a financial
portfolio of 8.35 million United States dollars, which he wished to have us turn over
(invest) on his behalf.I was the officer assigned to his case, I made numerous
suggestions in line with my duties as the de-facto chief operations officer, especially
given the volume of funds he wished to put into our bank. We met on numerous
occasions prior to any investments being placed. I encouraged him to consider various
growth funds with prime ratings.

The favored route in my advice to customers is to start by assessing data on 6000
traditional stocks and bond managers and 2000 managers of alternative investments.
Based on my advice, We spun the money around various opportunities and made
attractive margins for our first months of operation, the accrued profit and interest
stood at this point at over 10 million United States Dollars, this margin was not the full
potential of the fund but he desired low risk guaranteed returns on investments. In mid
1998, he asked that the money be liquidated because he needed to make an urgent
investment requiring cash payments in United Kindom. He directed that I liquidate the
funds and had it deposited with United Assets Management Uk (in their Securities
Trading Firm).

I informed him that HSBC London would have to make special arrangements to have
this done and in order not to circumvent due process, the bank would have to make a
9.5 % deduction from the funds to cater for banking and statutory charges. He
complained about the charges but later came around when I explained to him the
complexities of the task he was asking of us. Cash movement across boarders has
become especially strict since the incidents of 9/11. I contacted my affiliate in United
Kindom and had the funds available in United Assets Management. I undertook all the
processes and made sure I followed his precise instructions to the letter and had
the funds deposited at United Assets Management Uk United Kindom. United Assets
Management Uk is a specialist bank that accepts deposits from high net worth
individuals and blue chip corporations that handle valuable products or undertake
transactions that need immediate access to cash. In Line with instructions, the money
was deposited with United Assets Management Uk (in their Securities Trading Firm).

Simeon Arag told me he wanted the money there as soon as he got into the United
Kingdom,This was the last communication we had, this transpired around 25th
February 1999.In Sept last year, we got a call from United Assets Management Uk
informing us about the inactivity of that particular portfolio. This was an astounding
position as far as I was concerned, given the fact that I managed the International
private banking sector I was the only one who knew about the deposit atUnited Assets
Management Uk, and I could not understand why Simeon Arag had not come forward
to claim his deposit. I made futile efforts to locate Simeon Arag. Four days later,
information started to trickle in, apparently Philip Mutaf was dead. A person who his
description was declared dead of AUTO ACCIDENT TRAUMA in Birmingham England.

We were soon enough able to identify the body and cause of death was confirmed.
The bank immediately launched an investigation into possible surviving next of kin to
alert about the situation and also to come forward to claim his estate. In the field of
private banking, opening an account with us means no one will know of its existence,
accounts are rarely held under a name; depositors use numbers and codes to make the
accounts anonymous. This bank also gives the choice to depositors of having their mail
sent to them or held at the bank itself, ensuring that there are no traces of the account
and as I said, rarely do they nominate next of kin.

Private banking clients apart from not nominating next of kin also usually in most cases
leave wills in our care, in this case; Simeon Arag died in testate.In line with our internal
processes for account holders who have passed away, we instituted our own
investigations in good faith to determine who should have right to claim the estate. This
investigation has for the past months been unfruitful. We have scanned every
continent and used our private investigation affiliate companies to get to the root of the
problem. It is this investigation that resulted in my being furnished with your details as a
possible relative of the deceased.

My official capacity dictates that I am the only party to supervise the investigation and
the only party to receive the results of the investigation. You have unfortunately
declared, and I know that you are in no way affiliated with this individual. Whatthis
means, you being the last batch of names we have considered is that our dear late
fellow died with no known or identifiable family member.

This leaves me as the only person with the full picture of what the prevailing situation is
in relation to the deposit and the late beneficiary of the deposit. According to practice,
United Assets Management Uk will by the end of this quarter broadcast a request for
statements of claim to HSBC in London, failing to receive viable claims they will most
probably revert the deposit back to HSBC in London. This will result in the money
entering the HSBC in London accounting system and the portfolio will be out of my
hands and out of the private banking division. This will not happen if I have my
way.What I wish to relate to you will smack off unethical practice but I want you to
understand something. It is only an outsider to the banking world who
finds the internal politics of the banking world aberrational. The world of private banking
especially is fraught with huge rewards for those who occupy certain offices and
oversee certain portfolios. You should have begun by now to put together the general
direction of what I propose. There is US$ 8,370,000.00 deposited in United Assets
Management Uk, I alone have the deposit details and they will release the deposit to no
one unless I instruct them to do so. I alone know of the existence of this deposit for as
far as United Assets Management Uk is concerned, the transaction with Simeon Arag
concluded when I sent the funds to United Assets Management Uk, all outstanding
interactions in relation to the file are just customer services and due process. United
Assets Management Uk has no single idea of the history or nature of the deposit. They
are simply awaiting instructions to release the deposit to any party that comes forward.
This is the situation. This bank has spent great amounts of money trying to track this
man?s family; they have investigated for months and have found no family. The
investigation has come to an end.

My proposal, I am prepared to place you as the next of kin in a proposal to instruct
United Assets Management Uk to release the deposit to you as the closest surviving
relation. Upon receipt of the deposit, I am prepared to share the money with you in half.
That is: I will simply nominate you as the next of kin and have them release the deposit
to you. We share the proceeds 50/50.

I would have gone ahead to ask the funds be released to me, but that would have
drawn a straight line in my involvement in claiming the deposit. I assure you that I could
have the deposit released to you within a few days. I will simply inform the bank of the
final closing of the file relating to Simeon Arag I will then officially communicate with
United Assets Management Uk and instruct them to release the deposit to you. With
these: all is done.

I am aware of the consequences of this proposal. I ask that if you find no interest in
this project that you should discard this mail. I ask that you do not be vindictive and
destructive. If my offer is of no appeal to you, delete this message and forget I ever
contacted you. Do not destroy my career because you do not approve of my proposal.
You may not know this but people like myself who have made tidy sums out of
comparable situations run the whole private banking sector. I am not a criminal and
what I do, I do not find against good conscience, this may be hard for you to
understand, but the dynamics of my industry dictates that I make this move. Such
opportunities only come ones way once in a lifetime. I cannot let this chance pass me
by, for once I find myself in total control of my destiny.These chances wont pass me
by. I ask that you do not destroy my chance, if you willm not work with me let me know
and let me move on with my life but do not destroy me. I am a family man and this is an
opportunity to provide them with new opportunities. There is a reward for this project
and it is a task well worth undertaking. I have evaluated the risks and the only risk I
have here is from you refusing to work with me and alerting my bank.

I am the only one who knows of this situation, good fortune has blessed you with a
name that has planted you into the center of relevance in my life. Lets share the
blessing.If you give me positive signals, I will initiate this process towards a conclusion.
I wish to inform you that should you contact me via official channels; I will deny
knowing you and about this project. I repeat, I do not want you contacting me through
my official phone lines nor do I want you contacting me through my official email
account. Contact me only through the numbers I will provide for you and also through
this email address.I do not want any direct link between you and me. My official lines
are not secure lines as they are periodically monitored to assess our level of customer
care in line with our Total Quality Management Policy.Please observe this instruction
religiously. Please, again, note I am a family man, I have wife and children. I send you
this mail not without a measure of fear as to what the consequences, but I know within
me that nothing ventured is nothing gained and that success and riches never come
easy or on a platter of gold. This is the one truth I have learned from my private banking
clients. Do not betray my confidence. If we can be of one accord, we should plan a
meeting, soon.

I await your response.

Shamash Choudhry

Sent with "Me-Mail", Boltblue's FREE mobile messaging service.

Any ideas how how to report this guy?

21st Apr 2006, 17:30
Local plod to start with.

21st Apr 2006, 17:37
Local plod to start with.
Nah! - that would breach the confidentiality:-
I would respectfully request that you keep the contents of this mail
confidential and respect the integrity of the information you come by as a result of this mail. I contact you independently of our investigation and no one is informed of this communication.

21st Apr 2006, 17:41
Hi con-pilot - mails like this, with a UK connection, can be reported to [email protected] if you can also provide the routers, i.e., the set of links between the sending puter to your one, that is really helpful for them. You should get an acknowledgement from the Met.

Hope this helps :ok:

Onan the Clumsy
21st Apr 2006, 18:26
You should get an acknowledgement from the Met

...asking you to validate your PayPal ID and Password :E

Buster Cherry
21st Apr 2006, 18:38
Probably been posted somewhere here before but worth another look.


Why not have a little fun instead?:ok:

21st Apr 2006, 18:52
Onan -- hehehehehe NUT!!! :ok:

con-p -- if you can't establish the routers without fearing that you will compromise your system that is fine. In fact it was only about a month ago, instead of getting the standard acknowledgement, I got one from a named Detective Sergeant asking me to try and include the routers in future :ok: Its probably still an automatic response but at least it made me feel that the mails are attended to. :)

21st Apr 2006, 19:08
Thanks all. However, I just found out from a friend I use to work with at the Department of Justice that I can forward this thing to the FBI. Apparently they are working with other countries tracking these people down.

So, off to the FBI it goes.

One other thing, I recieved 4 identical e-mails from this same person at the same time.

21st Apr 2006, 20:12
One other thing, I recieved 4 identical e-mails from this same person at the same time.

That means only one thing:

Someone has a very bad spam-sending-management-system.
(or SSMS, if you like. :p)


Someone likes you, and put you up on a spam-list!

Oh, wait. That was two. :ooh:

21st Apr 2006, 20:47
I always forward the messages with the headers included to [email protected] being the email provider.
I often gets replies from Yahoo etc saying that they ''In this particular case, we have taken appropriate action against theYahoo! account in question that was reported for fraudulent activities,as per our Terms of Service (TOS). Please know that Yahoo! is unable to disclose the action taken on another user's account with a third party.We are not able to make exceptions to this rule.''

Am I wasting my time doing this? Is it just giving me a warm, wet feeling just like peeing my pants in a dark room?? or are the email providers actually looking at the IDs of the machines posting these messages and actually preventing them from registering another email address?:*

27th Apr 2006, 19:57
Yessssssssssssssss But
here is a mail I received today from a 419 emailers account providor.
It all seems pretty kosher......I hope that others follow the example and report these 419ers. I don't suppose for a moment that it will actually stop them but it must make them less '' profitable''
Dear Uuser,
After reviewing this user's account activity we've gone ahead on deleting
his mailbox, blocking further access to it and recording his last IP and
time of connection.
However, we are offering a free email service to Latin-American and Spanish
users (such as Yahoo or Hotmail does), and we cannot guarantee this user
will open a new account under a different email address (@latinmail.com or
@starmedia.com) and continue on "spamming".
We are working on detecting this spam at our outgoing smtp servers but, as
you may know, content, subject, and such, change continuously. Also, we
cannot block the IP where they connect from as they use to use cyber-cafes
or some ISP proxies being used by hundreds of users that may be legal.
Anyway, notifications as the one you've sent, help us pursuing this
practice in our systems and stopping it quickly.
Thank you,
Abuse Dept."

Loose rivets
29th Apr 2006, 06:26
Having mentioned this site on the computer forum, I was concerned that something was wrong. an Abuse screen came up at one stage, though I havn't seen it again.

They were advertising at the very cheap end of the scale...on a par with another NY company that didn't really mention that a $200battery plus $300charger was not included. I assume that this was their ploy as well but i don't know.


29th Apr 2006, 09:14
send me the money I won't tell anyone :E