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CherokeeDriver
19th Apr 2006, 13:51
Mrs CD is spending a lot of time at home now and wanted to encourage some flying friends (birds) into the garden and to try and learn the different breeds. I went down to B&Q and bought a bird seed / peanut feeder and put it up in the garden. It was sucessful until some of the local squirrels took an interest in the peanut feeder and destroyed it by chewing through it! On top of that the little buggers ran off with it and managed to drag it over the bonnet of my new car - scratching it badly.

I consider the little furry buggers to be rats with tails and have considered using an .22 air pistol to see them off - however Mrs CD likes them and has made it *very* clear that I am not to hunt them down!

Anyone have any suggestions on squirrel proofing Mrs CDs bird feeding station? Just got a quote to respray the car - over £1000.....:{

Ghostie31
19th Apr 2006, 14:00
.22 air pistol to see them off

Trust me,
you'll need something more powerful than that!

:E


Got this off a website of some sort.

To keep squirrels, mice and other mammals from eating all of your bird seed, mix a small amount of cayenne pepper (1 teaspoon to 2 cups) with your bird seed before you put it in a feeder. Cayenne doesn't bother birds, but everything else avoids it.

beana
19th Apr 2006, 14:01
I consider the little furry buggers to be rats with tails and have considered using an .22 air pistol to see them off - however Mrs CD likes them and has made it *very* clear that I am not to hunt them down!



Squirrels are great and so are rats, I feel for you but please dont hurt them, they dont realise what they have done!

Whirlygig
19th Apr 2006, 14:15
I'm having the rat catcher round on Thursday evening to get rid of the fat f*cker who is eating the roof flashing and no doubt the wiring inside!

Rats are not nice, they carry disease and cause all sorts of trouble and damage. I'm not talking about pet rats, I'm talking about brown rats and black rats. Think I'll get mesel' one_of_these (http://www.norfolkterrierclub.co.uk/) :} Nice little animation at the bottom of the page!

Back to squirrels - years ago when I worked at the National Physical Laboratory some of the country's best scientific brains were trying to stop the squirrels trying to get the bird food. Best device was to hang the bird feeder from a very long cable from the top of the tree (sent young ASO up to do that), then above the bird feeder was placed a concave plate. The whole lot, cable and plate was smothered in silicon grease. But, the squirrels could still do it. In the end, due to their ingenuity and tenacity, we let them have the food - at least they were entertaining as they were learning how to slide down the cable and swing underneath the dish.

Cheers

Whirls

acbus1
19th Apr 2006, 14:17
Cayenne doesn't bother birds,
Might bother you more than the squirrels, when they [email protected] on your car.

Corrosive [email protected] + paintwork = :ooh: :uhoh: :{

green granite
19th Apr 2006, 15:13
Buy a squirrel feeder fill it with penuts (and cyanide if you're feeling evil)
problem solved :cool:

Whirlygig
19th Apr 2006, 15:17
Poisoning Pigeons in the Park
(Tom Lehrer)

Spring is here, a-suh-puh-ring is here.
Life is skittles and life is beer.
I think the loveliest time of the year
Is the spring. I do, don't you?
'Course you do.
But there's one thing that makes spring complete for me,
And makes every Sunday a treat for me:

All the world seems in tune on a spring afternoon,
When we're poisoning pigeons in the park.
Every Sunday you'll see my sweetheart and me,
As we poison the pigeons in the park.

When they see us coming, the birdies all try and hide,
But they still go for peanuts when coated with cyanide.
The sun's shining bright, everything seems all right,
When we're poisoning pigeons in the park.

We've gained notoriety, and caused much anxiety
In the Audubon Society with our games.
They call it impiety and lack of propriety,
And quite a variety of unpleasant names.
But it's not against any religion
To want to dispose of a pigeon.

So if Sunday you're free, why don't you come with me,
And we'll poison the pigeons in the park.
And maybe we'll do in a squirrel or two,
While we're poisoning pigeons in the park.

We'll murder them all amid laughter and merriment,
Except for the few we take home to experiment.
My pulse will be quickening with each drop of strychnine
We feed to a pigeon. It just takes a smidgin
To poison a pigeon in the park.


Well, someone had to do it!

Cheers

Whirls

green granite
19th Apr 2006, 15:22
Whirls
One is very fond of Tom Lehrer, but I'm amazed you could quote that so
quickley. A sign of a mis-spent youth perhaps?

BaronChotzinoff
19th Apr 2006, 15:25
You can buy specialist traps for them - someone I know catches 'em, drowns 'em then puts them in the casserole - delicious, he says.

An air rifle should work if you're close up.

beana
19th Apr 2006, 15:33
Why anybody would want to harm an animal is beyond me...i just couldnt get any pleasure from it.:confused:

Whirlygig
19th Apr 2006, 15:35
Green granite Er .... a sign of my mother's misspent youth? :ouch: :}

I have been known to perform a few of his numbers when I've had a few except for "The Elements" which I can't even do sober!

beana it's not actually a question of wanting to harm the creature but what is the greater evil? Rats breeding in a roof void of a residential house or one dead rat! And you can't seriously think Tom Lehrer really did go and poison pigeons in the park?

Cheers

Whirls

djk
19th Apr 2006, 15:43
Mrs CD is spending a lot of time at home now and wanted to encourage some flying friends (birds) into the garden and to try and learn the different breeds. I went down to B&Q and bought a bird seed / peanut feeder and put it up in the garden. It was sucessful until some of the local squirrels took an interest in the peanut feeder and destroyed it by chewing through it! On top of that the little buggers ran off with it and managed to drag it over the bonnet of my new car - scratching it badly.

I consider the little furry buggers to be rats with tails and have considered using an .22 air pistol to see them off - however Mrs CD likes them and has made it *very* clear that I am not to hunt them down!

Anyone have any suggestions on squirrel proofing Mrs CDs bird feeding station? Just got a quote to respray the car - over £1000.....:{

becareful you don't miss the squirrel and put an air rifle pellet through the windscreen. could cost you a lot more money in the long run.
You could suggest moving the feeder to another part of the garden

airship
19th Apr 2006, 15:51
...they dont realise what they have done! And need one remind you that Jesus was sacrificed on the cross for folks like that?!

BTW, were they red or grey ones...?! ;)

green granite
19th Apr 2006, 15:53
Whirls
I can sympathise over the elements, The bull fight was my favorite.

I havent had so much fun since my brothers dog rover was run over
It was done by a pontiac with so much grace skill and ease
That the witnesses awarded the driver both ears and the tail

someting like that anyway

beana
19th Apr 2006, 16:04
Whatever Cherokee decides to do about the problem, im one of them folks that hopes it does not involve any pain to the little critters :\

BaronChotzinoff
19th Apr 2006, 16:16
beana, I'm a veggie myself. But unfortunately plenty of critturs need culling - rats, stags, seals, grey squirrels ...

airship
19th Apr 2006, 16:20
Hopefully, the Cherokee nic has more to do with the airplane (it is an aviation forum...?!) than with the 4x4 version. After all, it must be a lot harder to reason with someone who buys a 4x4 which they only use to mount the taller pavements in order to park illegally in great cities like London...?! But let's not go to extremes... :uhoh:

M.Mouse
19th Apr 2006, 16:24
Squirrels destroyed my first birdfeeder but I found one that has a sleeve above it and when a squirrell climbs aboard the sleeve slides down over the food container, due to the weight of the squirrel, preventing access. As soon as the squirrel gets off the cover springs back to the open position.

Oh how I larf! I suspect the blue tits do too.

airship
19th Apr 2006, 16:31
Blue tits?! Quick! Get them back indoors and uhmmm, massage 'em... :O

Unwell_Raptor
19th Apr 2006, 16:37
Most garden centres and DIY stores carry squirrelproof feeders. Usually they enclose the feeder itsel in a strong wire cage that is small enough to admit a bird but not a squirrel.

bogbeagle
19th Apr 2006, 16:37
You really should be able to outwit a squirrel without resorting to violence....you being its intellectual superior and all.

airship
19th Apr 2006, 17:12
...small enough to admit a bird but not a squirrel. Well, that's that for great tits even if they're a little blue I suppose...?! :{

(PS. My predeliction for attention is becoming ridiculous doncha think?! :( )

BenThere
19th Apr 2006, 19:14
Chase 'em off with one of these:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9sLCTzeTmk

tilewood
19th Apr 2006, 19:38
Having suspended a number of bird feeders from branches only to
have them systematically wrecked by squirrels I had a cunning plan.

I obtained some thin and flexible wire, cut the bottom from a large
mineral water bottle and drilled a hole in it through which I threaded
the wire so that the bottom formed a cap about six inches above the
feeder. I then tied two knots in the wire so that the plastic cap could not slip.

I attached the feeder to the bottom of the wire, and suspended the
whole unit from a branch, and greased the wire and plastic cap with
vaseline.

The pure frustration and temper of the squirrels was a joy to behold as
they scrambled, slid and crashed. They soon learnt and no longer
attempt to raid the feeder. Good luck! ;)

tall and tasty
19th Apr 2006, 19:52
Rats are not nice, they carry disease and cause all sorts of trouble and damage. I'm not talking about pet rats, I'm talking about brown rats and black rats. Think I'll get mesel' one_of_these Nice little animation at the bottom of the page

Horrid things and they carry everything on this site

http://www.bbc.co.uk/insideout/northwest/series1/rats.shtml

Having one in the kitchen when you turn around with a hot pot of liquid just about did it for me in a previous abode!!

But the grey squirrel is dangerous if you get too close, ever been bitten by one it hurts alot and they DON'T let go!!!!!:{ :{

But get yourself a big dog and that will stop them dead, the dog chases them more that the birds so the birds can have fun eating what is theirs.

TnT

con-pilot
19th Apr 2006, 20:11
But get yourself a big dog and that will stop them dead

That doesn't work with our wolf, heck if it was up to her, the wolf, she would take the bird feeder down and give the squirrels the feed. She will also lay and watch the birds and squirrels eat her dry dog food.

However, that all came to an end when we got our first Great Pyrenees.

green granite
19th Apr 2006, 21:02
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i11/orangeherald/owl.jpg

This should sort them out

G-CPTN
19th Apr 2006, 23:48
Cats will attack birds (and probably not bother with squiggels).
Yer Jack Rissole, OTOH will consider the squiggel to be a wat, and will act accordingly. FSL will lend you his rissole, or if you're downunder, Wolfie's your man. Persistant critter is yer Rissole.
Place the feed under a mesh fireguard (fastened down firmly and securely). Choose the size of mesh according to the size of your tits.

Foss
20th Apr 2006, 00:01
I'd say you'd have a hard job hitting them with an air pistol.

What you need to do is build a small horseshoe shapped enclosure of sandbags, and hang the bird feeder in the centre. The when the tree rat comes down for some free food, you set of the previously aimed claymore by command wire.

Easy peasy. :}

Fos

Davaar
20th Apr 2006, 01:57
Usually they enclose the feeder itsel in a strong wire cage that is small enough to admit a bird but not a squirrel.

Yes, but birds are messy eaters and dribble a fair amount of seed on to the ground, where the squirrels foregather for supper.

pigboat
20th Apr 2006, 02:44
Yes, but birds are messy eaters and dribble a fair amount of seed on to the ground, where the squirrels foregather for supper.

..and the flying rats (pigeons) later gather for breakfast. :E

ExSimGuy
20th Apr 2006, 05:37
Okay - I have had a serious think about this problem:

Get one of those "volumetric" intrusion detection systems that work by RF field, and can sense the mass of the intruder. Set this so it alarms at the mass of a squirrel, but not at a bird.

Connect this to an electrical solenoid on the trigger of a 12-bore . . . . .

Crepello
20th Apr 2006, 06:44
About five years ago, a shipment of squirrels arrived at Amsterdam Schiphol. Sadly for them, they lacked the requisisite documentation (do vermin need passports these days? Hmm, don't get me started.)

The task of "resolving" the situation was given to an enterprising young employee, possibly now elsewhere, who lacked resources but not ideas. Lo, he stumbled across a tree-shredder. I believe about 400 of them were thus disposed-of before somebody tapped him on the shoulder.

Apologies to the animal-lovers. But CherokeeDriver, this may cheer you a little when you next see the scratches on your jalopy. I know it's tacky, but would a car-cover help?

Solid Rust Twotter
20th Apr 2006, 09:05
That doesn't work with our wolf, heck if it was up to her, the wolf, she would take the bird feeder down and give the squirrels the feed. She will also lay and watch the birds and squirrels eat her dry dog food.
However, that all came to an end when we got our first Great Pyrenees.

Strange that wolves are such shy and docile animals. Mine is the same. The pure dog is much more aggressive than the wolf and she's a honey to begin with which makes Vulcan a complete soppy fool. Kids love them both and they like kids. It's the parents that are the problem.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d132/Lardbeast/muscle-squirrel.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d132/Lardbeast/Squirrelsuperman.jpg

Wile E. Coyote
20th Apr 2006, 09:15
Squirrels chewed through my facia boards, got into the roof, chewed the wiring.. not good!

Traps didn't work. Every squirrel caught was replaced by another - the squirrel population around here is huge.

The local pest control people recommended shooting them with a legal-limit air rifle, so I do.

Strangely enough, after shooting just two squirrels, the rest kept well away from my house for over a year. As soon as they start to get brave again, I give another furry tree rat a "lead injection" and they stay away for another year or so.

acbus1
20th Apr 2006, 09:16
Obscene, that is, SRT.

You'll be posting a piccie with it getting it's nuts out, next.

G-CPTN
20th Apr 2006, 09:39
Confiscate its nuts.

Richard Taylor
20th Apr 2006, 10:09
Leave the grey alone!!

That one on the pitch at Highbury yesterday was the best player on the pitch!

Wenger should sign it before Mourinho puts in a bid.

Duckbutt
20th Apr 2006, 10:38
Wenger should sign it before Mourinho puts in a bid.

He almost certainly didn't see it!

Tex37
20th Apr 2006, 11:31
Buy a cat! Great entertainment as well watching the game/battle!

beana
20th Apr 2006, 11:37
Or borrow my Jack Russell.
I guarantee no living creature will enter your garden after experiencing one of his performances…:eek:

ORAC
20th Apr 2006, 11:43
Mission Impossible (http://www.bofunk.com/video/1706/mission_impossible.html)

RatherBeFlying
20th Apr 2006, 12:16
A friend of mine kept pythons and boas and often left them loose on the 3rd floor. There was also a squirrel that came by for snacks -- until one of the boas snacked on him:E

The culprit was identified by the squirrel sized lump.

ExSimGuy
20th Apr 2006, 12:30
I missed Fos' Clamore Mine post on page 3, or I wouldn;t have been so unimaginative as to suggest an unchoked 12-bore!

As for the "Mision Impossible Squirrel" - very impressive, reminded me of one of the ones in my daughter's garden in PHL - they love to climb the trees, and to navigate the "cable" connections between them.

This unfortunate sod must have fallen off the "cable" and into the swimming pool in the garden. Squirrels can't swim. Next morning I got up, wandered out into the back garden (for a smoke - not allowed indoors) and found the beggah frozen in the ice that had formed overnight in the pool. (Lazy son-in-law doesn't "drain down and winterise"):uhoh:

Thinking of my daughter's frail sensitive nature (oh yeah - Effo the Effay:E ) I broke ice and fished out the corpse and flung it into next door's back garden (they don't get on!) and he's probably wondering why he got a drowned frozen squirrel on his lawn that morining:confused:

(well, it was probably better than leaving it in "our place" for the Mastiff and the Rottweiller to play with:eek: )