Spraying Mcleod's Daughters

[3 way valve]

Alright, it's been several weeks now since the program aired on ch9, and no one has started a thread on this topic. For those of you who didn't see it, there was a pawnee (rego blanked out) spraying "insecticide" on pasture next to a neighbours organic farm. The pilot intentionally sprayed the organic farm because one of their female workers wouldn't put out for him.It also showed the plane pulling up and turning with the spray still on
Now all of the hollywood stuff aside, what pilot/operator in their right mind would want to bring their own industry into disrepute by doing the flying for the tv production company?? It just made our industry look like a complete bunch of cowboys. I hope whoever did it got paid heaps, because they heave done quite a bit of damage to our industy's image and public perception.
3 way valve
Ps. I hope this thread doesn't generate childish comments like the recent dromader question, maybe we might get some constructive discussion, then again maybe we are just a bunch of childish cowboys....

[100% Ng]

Didn't see the **** house show but heard about it. Sounds like it was pretty bad form from someone though.

Heard the show is filmed in S.A. There can't be that many pawnee's down there.

[catseye]

I agree it was very bad form from the company that undertook the filiming if in fact they knew what it was for.

From the short bits on the tele I couldn't pick up the rego. Kids thought it was blanked out and definitely not on the " chainsawed wing. Kid's had me paying attention by then.

Thought the plot was fairly predictable once organic farming and spraying started to appear.

The Eye

[Big Nasty]

I have this from a reliable source that the pilot was a one man band and his name is Alan Magetic (or something like that ) surely some one else knows something he sure has been a big help

[M18bloke]

The story was all bad for our industry.

Perhaps a story about a wild bush fire that threatened a farm which was then put out by an Ag pilot in a Pawnee by fire bombing would have been a better story line.

M18bloke
(Thats 9 jugs & 18 plugs)

[burnercan]

You sure about the name of the pilot? Sounds like someone from over the hill from gawler and not too far away who has been doing crazy things for years. Like diesel & ester with hot north winds ....ahh the tomatoes down wind just love it.......If there is film footage of aircraft flying with rego blanked out surely our illustrious regulator CASA would be on the job nailing someone for flying without rego displayed???

[Big Nasty]

Like I said this info is from a VERY reliable source apparently this bloke was also starring in the show on the night the pawnee featured

[185skywagon]

Episode 142
See it on the show's website. They have done a pretty good job of obscuring regos etc.

[Trev007]

His name is Alan Majetic (ph 0400549047). He is operating in SA and wondering if anyone out there knows who trained and supervised him and whos aoc he is working under . Ironically the Pawnee is in a paddock missing a wing presumed chopped off by angry farm girl(actually really a prang he had which CASA are aware of but was not reported) They have all this info are taking no action
Feel free to call him and let him know how you feel :bored: :ugh:

[Turboman]

He might have to pick another career now, unless he can make a go of it as an operator.
Check out his website and photos here http://www.rbe.net.au/~robby/local_businesses/arm_pastoral/arm_pastoral.htm
He even has a spraysafe logo on his pawnee (2002-2003).

[currawong]

The media are rarely kind to this industry.

You will see them pass through here occasionally, trying to get info for their next beat up.

One of the reasons there are big red letters at the bottom of the page.

[Fuzzy Bear]

Didn't use a lot thought in planning this one out did he. So much for fifteen minites of fame and what it will do for his career/business,******.

[Big Nasty]

This is not the dude for an ag job hopefully no-one in the industry will give him a job:*

[rotaryman]

You People are Outrageous!! how dare you publish this mans details on a Public forum such as this!!!Ph numbers and a like!!

In case you dick heads haven't relalised it was a T.V SHOW!!!! its Fiction and i would Hazard a Guess that most..would understand that!! except you F&#Kwitts!!!!

you lot want to grow a Brain and Grow up!!!!:mad: :mad: :mad:

[maxspeed]

:{ Wow ! nice dummy spit! With a performance like that rotor nut you could make it in hollywood to!:yuk:

[rotaryman]

maxspeed:

Thanks for the response! dummy spit or not,,i just feel very strongly about dickheads such as those that have posted in relation to this subject...

Interesting to also note that most are only new members to this forum :hmm:

Tall poppy syndrome? my point was, its only a T.V show....these people need to give the rest of us some credit for Brains and inteligence, something obviously lacking with these idiots.....

Ive been in the Aviation Game for a long time and to see other people pull someone apart like they have is totally unfair..................................:yuk:

Real hero's Hiding behind the Vail of a Nickname!!!

[maxspeed]

No worries rotory, just yanking ya chain bro, i'm just being a smart ass cos I dont have anything usefull to add!
Doyley

[Turboman]

rotaryman,
With a response like yours I suspect you don't do, and have never done ag, hence would not understand the ramifications to the industry. I know of one pilot who has already been abused by a member of the public as a result of this episode.
You would expect people to understand the difference between fact and fiction, but sadly not everyone is as intelligent and perceptive as you.

[rotaryman]

Turboman:

So what are you advocating? We shoot the messenger!!:confused:

Yes its unfortunate that some members of the community are unable to differentiate between Fact and Fiction! That doesn't mean people are entitled to abuse others.

No i have never been involved in AG work, but have many years at the Coal face of Aviation and seen people do many silly things! Right or wrong the Pilot in Question has the right to conduct his Business how he feels and in consideration of the fact he has done nothing Illegal has the right to support from his peers.

The entertainment industry is full of Movies and T.V shows depicting many area's of Aviation that Right or Wrong many would not agree with! does that make them all wrong?

I believe the scenario would have been that this Particular Pilot was aproached to Supply and Pilot his aircraft in a Film sequence that was used in a T.V Show!! as previously stated any Inteligent Person is able to tell the Difference between Fact or Fiction.

That doesn't make the Pilot wrong for doing so,, what is Wrong IMHO is people who call themselves pro"s and then take the man to Task on a public forum and disclose his Ph number and advocate all and sundry to Call and Voice their Oppinion.:yuk: all the while Hiding behind a Screen Name!!! :mad:

[Fuzzy Bear]

Fair comment Rotayman, I think most of us believe that the show put us in a bad light and even though it was only make believe, the majority of town folk don't see through the b---sh-t side of things and want to think that there is some w-nker out there that would do something like that,god damn, I know people who at the first site of an ag plane get head aches,feel sick and become a right royal pain in the ass and make comments like "I don't like chemicals" or "you boys should be band from what you do" and crap like that. Have these people ever stopped to think of the contrabution that air ag and application of chemicals play in the production of food and clothing through out the whole world, No I think not. there is a book floating around called Farming with pesticides and plastics {from memory} and if we were to stop using pesticides we would have to clear another three quaters of the land again that is used world wide to meet the same prodution we have today. Where is all this going you ask? Like I said I agree that his name should not of been pasted to this site {and he uses bad photos on his site} but it shows a certain amount or lack there of brains to agree to use your machine for gain and reward in bull **** show like McLeod's daughters and this industry comes under the microscope all to often with issues even smaller than this.Like I said before, I don't think a lot of thought went into it and also rotary just becauce you see a few new people on this site doesn't mean we haven't been watching you from a distance. See ya Bro.

[currawong]

Number of posts does not maketh the man, rotaryman.

Agree, should not have been named. That is what the PM system is for:ok:

Debate can be "robust" in this part of the world.

Some of these folks are new here, just as you were once, and I.

As for hiding behind a screen name? Pull the other one, big fella.

We both know the forum would be rendered totally ineffective without anonymity.

Good day to you.

[Wirecutter]

Rotaryman, obviously you don't fly ag if you don't see the ramifications of this idiots actions of appearing on this show to earn himself 15 minutes of fame and a few dollars. After all the good work of the AAAA's to improve our image it gets ruined by some w--ker stuck in the 80's. The 'cowboy' days are over, get over it.

[rotaryman]

Wirecutter:

WoW no one could ever accuse you of being the Sharpest Tool in the Shed could they mate? Tool maybe !!:} I stated 4 posts ago i know nothing about AG!! My post relates to the wankers who feel its o.k to post the personal details of the Pilot on a Public Forum!!
Ive also stated thats its a T.V Show! he has done nothing illegal or anything to be ashamed of..
Let me suggest you Read all the posts before you open your mouth, best to let us think your a tool than open your mouth and remove all doubt!!
Any sane person would relalise its a T.V Show!! Hello!!
Ive said my peace with regard this Thread!!

[Duke 666]

Glad to hear you have said your peace for it is the most **** I have seen written for quite a while, you may have to go back to ROTORHEADS forum and get angry about something that you know about. If your point is purely about the phone number and name being posted that is all you had to say for you really have come across as a ****** now.

[rotaryman]

Duke 666:

Did you have something constructive to say?

Yet another useful value adding post from duke 666
w anker !!!:mad: :mad:

[biggles190]

I dont know how many of you have flown ag in this area but it is already a big enough sh it fight as it is.
With grapes, bad wires in some areas, piggeries, chook houses, houses and roads everywhere, it makes for hard work and plenty attention being paid to outside the job, including looking after the industries reputation for next time.
I also beleive if he had anything more than water in the load he could be charged and/or have his chemical license revoked for releasing chemical above spray height.
I also hope his previous and prospective clients take into account his actions and the effect it does have on the general public and their ability to get jobs completed with the minimum of fuss in the future. Any ag pilot already has it hard enough as a person who flies madly around applying deadly chemicals in the average publics eye.
Those who watch this show don't have a grip on reality as a property run like this with so many problems would have gone broke years ago, it's just a shame the show has not gone this way!!!

[Wirecutter]

You are absolutely correct i didn't need you to spell it out to me twice. The lack of concern about how this whole episode portrays us to the public should have told me that you don't know anything about ag aviation.
I guess i'm not the rocket scientist my mother was hoping for after all.

I suppose you think we should all ring this guy and thank him for doing us all a big favour. The speed and passion with which you are replying to this thread one can only wonder about your motive. Are you romantically/financially linked to this pilot/moviestar or are you the man himself.

[rotaryman]

Wirecutter:

Your a Laugh a Minute!!:yuk:

My motive has only been to set the record straight! i don;t know the Man in Question and as previously stated i no nothing of AG spraying using Fixwing A/C.

I just have a problem with small minded individulas like yourself! Do you not have enough faith in your Industry that 1 man ACTING out a role in a fictional T.V SHOW could damage the otherwise Good reputation of Profeshional AG Operators?

Get Serious Man!!! Or are you saying the general Population don't know the difference between fact or Fiction?:ugh:

Or are you Upsett the T.V producers didn't ask you?

[Duke 666]

I am now convinced that you are sexually frustrated and I think you need to go and rub one out over the latest rotary section of your chosen magazine!
You are not understanding what everyone else on this forum is, and that is that the episode on Mcleods daughters was damaging to our industry and that the average Joe would not be able to sit in his lounge chair and say that,"it is only a show so I must think that Ag Pilots don't do this in real life"
I think that you may well be the W*****ker in this forum and after all I if I am understanding what you said in a previous post correctly you had said all you had to say so I think it is time for you to Neck Up!
Duke 666

[rotaryman]

Duke 666:

As i sit here reading your Rantings Pissing myself Laughing! IVE COME TO REALISE YOUR A BIGGER ******** THAN FIRST REALISED!!!

grow up dopey and come back when you have something constructive to add!

[Duke 666]

I have plenty to add that is constructive, but I thought you were leaving this thread? Maybe you have already rubbed one out and are just bored? anyway aslong as you are happy old mate! It would be good if you could see the point of what has been said on this thread as far as the damage to the industry side of it goes but if you think different that is your choice!
Keep it safe anyway Rotaryman.
Duke 666

[rotaryman]

Duke 666:

If you have something constructive to add to this debate please free!! Don't deprive the other Board members of your Wisdom!!

As for me leaving the thread! well that was my intention, but that would have been rude of me not to reply to your Rantings!!

As for understanding Any damage to your industry! sorry ole chap i disagree! The only damage being done is from small minded individulas like yourself who can't see the forest for the Tree's.....


You also seem to have some kind of Fixation about masterbation!!! best you get that sorted..:eek: it only serves to demonstrate your lack of inteligence.

[fitternturner]

kids, we are going to loose this forum as well like every other anonymous ag pilot forum in the world if the name calling doesn't stop!

[currawong]

Keep it clean, fellas.

This forum hasn't been around for long - it took a lot longer to get it. We are lucky to have it.

It would not be the first to be yanked off Prune for participants not performing in an appropriate manner.

Also, beware of wind ups.;)

And, we may yet hear another side to the story.

[Fuzzy Bear]

I think we should all quit while we are ahead. Thank you for your input, I too feel things are getting out of hand. Duke did make the point that maybe you are missing the essential truth here, i do respect your opinion, not that I totally agree but I won't resort to calling you a w-nker and the likes of that. I don't know what experience you have had in the rotary wing industry but I have had the pleasure of meeting quite a few guys who fly helicopters in fire bombing campaigns over the last couple of years and have the utmost respect for them as pilots and as people and understand what their work is all about and how far a field it takes them. So please look back through the threads and see it for what it is (minus the name calling), we have taken this whole thing as a personal slur and don't really want the publicity in this form. I know you say it's only show biz but believe me, there is a lot of gullible people out there.

Cheers.

[Trev007]

the reason he was named is so that everyone knows who he is and does not make the mistake of giving him a job or helping him in the industry
i hope rotor man has taken some medication and left for his own forum:{
if he did not want recognition and people to know who he was maybe he should have said no to the job and let mccleods go with out an aircraft -a much better outcome all round

[Big Nasty]

I think we have wasted enough time on this bloke and this topic lets move on
Seems to me everyone except his brother rotor boy has the same opinion so hopefully the industry is rid of him now
It has been very interesting seeing the responses from the helo industry who know stuff all about ag - think all that shaking upsets their sense of humour:{

[biggles190]

The Helo ag industry knows. Do some reasearch on the Bell 206 that ditched in Tasmania with a load still aboard.
It nearly stopped all aerial spraying in that state.
Unless you do aerial ag work, you dont know what it's like to be treated like the devils brother!

[rotaryman]

biggles190:

whats your point!!?

Oh you saying only Helicopter AG aircraft crash!! yea right!!!

you guys have a bad reputation for a reason...

Big Nasty:
And all those Chemicals must upsett your sense of reason, like many others on this forum...Grow Up!! i'm entitled to an Oppinion and i have expressed it!

:yuk:

[topendtorque]

Interesting foruim. I feel sorry for 3 way, in his bomb shelter taking cover from the full on mortared friendly fire. Not much wonder the Melbourne coppers have gone quiet, they too would be under cover. Heh heh.

May I respectfully add a couple of cents worth? Firstly it is totally unethical to publicly name in any medium in derogatory manner anyone’s details unless you do it under parlimentary privelege.
References in this country can only be given after consent from the subject, it’s best for legal reasons to politely decline to give any if you can’t do that in good light.

The story line to my mind is the most damaging. Esepcially as I’m told that the TV program concerned tend to go out of their way to portray life in the bush as real as per their program.
Anyone who watches ‘Landline’ would now know that Ag-Work happens regularly on Organic farming and not with nasty chemicals, but too late, the damage has been done.

Similarly sixty minutes viewers would note how much damage was intended to be protrayed via that program to the live export industry, with presentation of supposed Australian cattle, none of which were.

There are only 3,500 members of Animals Australia in this country (Including affiliates). They, like the Tassie 206 incident, have the capacity to make your llife a misery when they are coupled with exploitable media.

The main problem is that 94% of OZ population live in cities or the seaboard and couldn’t give a rat’s backside for the 6% that include all of your good selves and what you all do for the GDP of this country. You are very vulnerable as most rural industries are geared up to 90% for export.

What will be the next story line; the little pet sheep has been stolen and injured and is filmed being live-exported and beng dragged to its demise in some Arabic country. These programs are the vehicle for advertising by all and sundry, It’s easy to see the ‘ban live exports’ sticker on the fridge or hear the line, ‘I don’t eat beef only chicken’ etc etc. Those lines can cost a couple of grand each.

There is crisis mangement teams avbl to all rural industries including yours, take the issue to your AAAA exec. Surely Pprune wouldn’t mind if AAAA’s generalized management of this issue were hinted at on this forum. After all, its stands for “PROFESSIONALS”.

Ag-work, me? Don’t ask, never been , never will, but I was right in the middle of the endosulfan war between the cow and cotton cockies in the early nineties, until commen sense sent someone to talk to your pros. Result-- good SOP’s – no more war--and -- no more nasties found in exported meat.

[Fuzzy Bear]

Well said topend, NOW, lets all move on

[BallsToTheWall]

Look Rotormouth,head,dribbler,
I have worked in this industry for 20 years. I am very carefull in any dealings with media and crap like this. This pill has just gone and done exactly what every other person within the industry, has worked bloody hard to try to stop. It really is hard to believe that this prick could do it. I hope one of us does ring him up. I also hope he gets a smack in the teeth for the idiotic , famous show that he screwed up. But most of all I hope he realises what a ******** that he has been. I also hope that you start to comment on things that you have some experience in, its not ag so go back to the rotary crap, as you obviously are not an Ag Pilot.

[rotaryman]

BallsToTheWall:

your Post only goes to show what a small minded individual you really Are!

Go and Grow a brain then come back with a decent argurment!! This thread died weeks ago,,

Name calling does you or your industry no favours!! :yuk:

[Big Nasty]

Cmon lets move on , I think the man in question has been exposed to the people that matter and hopefully his career in this great industry is over
Can some one please start another topic of discussion we can get into without upsetting our dear friends in the helo industry
Rotorman, lots of people have lots at stake respect the thoughts of the industry!
I will give you one thing you have kept it interesting and stirred up a lot of threads
Cheers BN:ok: