Emirates and the 787 (& latest US Naval movements)

[sky9]

Interesting article in today's Daily Telegraph wondering if the anti Arab views expressed in the US Congress might tilt the new twin order towards the A350.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2006/03/14/cnuae14.xml

I must admit if I was a member of the UAE I would seriously wonder whether the USA was the right place to put any investment.

[Roadtrip]

To comment directly on the question, yes, the House of Maktoom should wonder.

There is a growing public sentiment in the US that the Arab states do the typical Arab thing and play both sides of the fence in the war on terrorism. I see U.S. public sentiment starting to see through the haze and tire of Arab and Islamic doubletalk concerning radical Islam. The constant violence and killing/murder in the Islamic world over untrue rumors or the perception of any slight, is incomprehensible to rational minds. There is no hope for the Islamic world until the moderate progressive-thinking Muslims stop being intimidated by the violent radicals and take back their societies. If you're not frightened by the prospect of dark-age religous fanatics being nuclear-armed in Iran, then you're truley a useful fool. And the Arab Sheikdoms should be the first one to be scared, because the Persians probably won't take the Sheik's bribe money to be left alone.

[Cruiseclimb]

Unfortunately this is all about saving face for the arabs. If you've ever lived in the Middle East... you know what I mean. The US should be justly concerned about an arabic company controlling their ports, after all, several terrorists in the 9/11 attacks had UAE passports. Unfortunately, Boeing may lose in this game. The 787 will be an amazing airplane. Hopefully Emirates takes their order.

[Roadtrip]

With fundamentalist Islamic terrorism tacitly condoned by the "Arab street" and the Persians moving full speed towards a nuclear weapon, orders for a few airplanes pale in comparison.

[airbus757]

All this talk about ports in the USA.

I wonder if the UAE would let someone in the USA buy the ports here. I don't think so.

When the UAE gives up control of their major infrastructure then I will side with them. Until then they should be expected to be treated as they treat others.

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[Flip Flop Flyer]

Emirates announced yesterday that they'll postpone the launch of the CPH service, as a direct consequence of a "failed" conference in CPH following the infamous Muhammed drawings. This on a service that was attracting around 1000 bookings per week.

So yes, politics does play a major role in the decisions made, and I for one would not be surprised if EK turned their back on the 787-10, having more or less single handedly persuaded Boeing to offer the sub-type (and, effectively, putting the 777-200 out of business), in favour of the A350-900.

[mckaj]

Sad and embarrassing choice of Emirates to stop the CPH service.

Why don’t they also boycott the Danish company Maersk Sealand if they are still so upset. Ups because Maersk controls 52% of all shipment into the middle east and Dubai.

I guess “The Emirates” are only politically and religiously correct when it does not backfire in their face.

What a sad mentality

[stoney69]

thankfully, the world is not wholly run based on the judgemental types!

[Roadtrip]

The UAE company (really the government since the company is owned by the government which, of course, means the House of Maktoom), was not going to "own" the U.S. ports, but rather manage them. However, the practical problem (other than the political "look") comes because that means that a foreign government, almost certainly infiltrated by al quida, would have access to classified information on US port defenses and procedures.

Arabs need to start looking inward as to why their societies and region are in such an advanced state of chaos and decay. Instead they prefer to do the usual thing and blame everybody else.

[QCM]

These PPRuNe forums should remain in the aeronautical field,and for the mental health of the readers avoid the pseudo politico/geo-strategical comments,the level being so :mad: :mad: :mad: from people apparently knowing nothing from the Arab world except what they read in tabloids...please come back to the fields you know,if by chance you know any:suspect: :suspect:

[airbus757]

QCM...

Why not let us pro pilots talk about what we want to?

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[MTOW]

I suspect that some would say that the delay of the CPH service was as much to do with the lack of crews to man it as any political reaction to the cartoons. The same people would say that the cartoons were just a convenient excuse for the delay.

[airbus757]

You Might be right

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[SecurID]

You may be right, but you are probably wrong. After all, there are many new services requiring the A330 that have not been affected......

[CanadaKid]

Couldn't say it any better so will send this quote.
............ Last week, an updated version of Smoot and Hawley's Congress put together a veto proof gaggle to stop the United Arab Emirates from buying a British port management company that ran six of our nation's ports. Security was the ostensible reason, but anyone who did their homework knows that national security on any level was never at risk. This congressional tantrum bothers me on several levels.
Our ports are run by a number of companies that are not U.S. based companies. Five ports have Danish firms running them, for instance. Two are run by the Chinese. Basically these companies move freight. Pick it up here and put it there. They have nothing to do with port security. Port security is the province of U.S. Customs and the Coast Guard. And they hire American union workers.
The U.A.E may be the largest non-U.S. port service for the U.S. Navy in the world, based in Dubai. They are a solid ally and a voice of moderation and stability in an area of the world where such is needed.
........ Regards, John Mauldin
John Mauldin is the creative force behind the Millennium Wave investment theory, author of the weekly economic e-mail Thoughts from the Frontline, JohnMauldin.com, and a private letter for accredited investors. As well as being a frequent contributor to Capital & Crisis and Strategic Investment, Mr. Mauldin is a New York Times best-selling author with a unique ability to present complex financial topics and make them understandable to the lay reader with insights into the current economy and hedge fund industry. His latest book, Just One Thing, was released in December of 2005

[Payscale]

6th fleet is in Bahrain. Not much going on in JebelAli.

[CAYNINE]

no not quite right..... US flat top in yesterday.

[Payscale]

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