Youngest Challenger F/O? [Archive]

Lizard5T

12th Mar 2006, 09:05

My colleague has just upgraded from a Citation to a Challenger, aged 22 and 2 months. We wondered if he is the youngest JAA Challenger Pilot. Anybody know about this?

Eff Oh

12th Mar 2006, 10:29

He may well be. I was flying the SF340 @ 21 and 10 days and then the B757 at 22 and 4 months. I know of one CRJ F/O at 19/20.

OBK!

12th Mar 2006, 13:55

I know someone who's on the A321/A320 age 20. :}

wondering

12th Mar 2006, 18:00

Just wondering how is this possible? Most ads I see for larger bizjets ask for rating and time. And of course please dont apply w/o.

Nice to see that the 'normal' progression seems to work for some people.....oh well I know it´s all about being at the right place at the right time or just knowing the right person.

Bit off topic, but there was another tread somewhere on pprune which mentioned a 25y old Airbus skipper with GB.

flyboyike

12th Mar 2006, 21:55

In the US, you can't even get your ATPL without being 23 years of age.

galaxy flyer

13th Mar 2006, 01:58

flyboyike

13th Mar 2006, 02:34

Flyboyike

Not necessarily true, at least in years past, the FAA would issue you the ATPL before your 23rd birthday, you just could not excercise the privileges until the 23rd birthday. That was many years ago, not sure about the present.

GF

You're close. What they do now is (upon succesful completion of the ATP checkride) issue what they call an LAC (Letter of Aeronautical Competency), which essentially says that but for the age thing, you'd be an ATP. The minute the person turns 23 they go to their local FSDO, show the letter and get their temporary certificate, the permanent to follow in a few weeks.

farmer jo

13th Mar 2006, 03:13

I was flying DC3 and Fokker 27 for recognised Airline at just under 19.
We diverted once in the Fokker and was told by ops to hire a car and drive home. We couldn't as no one on the crew was over 25 ! The average age was about 22 I think (4 crew) !

ACD

You Gimboid

13th Mar 2006, 09:43

There's a 23 year old girly on the B777 fleet at BA at the moment.

PRNAV1

13th Mar 2006, 12:03

i was flying the A300/310 at 20 and my mate at 19!

Lizard5T

13th Mar 2006, 13:10

[QUOTE=wondering]Just wondering how is this possible? Most ads I see for larger bizjets ask for rating and time.

Made possible by sheer hard work and effort. He had nobody he "knew" and had to pay his way for all bar the Citation type rating which came with the job. Delivered a new Citation from the factory to the UK at 21...

JB10

13th Mar 2006, 16:38

Couldn't agree more with the above. Got straight into Corporate straight after training at 18 on the King Air. Now on a Citation at 20. Current time to Command, under two years.
Anything is possible, but can't just sit at home and send C.V's. You need to go and network/chase them up.

Good Luck

JB10

MAX

14th Mar 2006, 15:34

I knew a Captain on a challenger who was 26 at the time.

MAX:cool:

J32/41

14th Mar 2006, 16:53

I know a Captain of 747-400 freighter who is 27. :8 :8

Langball

16th Mar 2006, 08:48

Me bruvver signed off a B737 Captain at 21 years of age

EGBKFLYER

16th Mar 2006, 10:07

and my Dad can fight your Dad etc etc:rolleyes:

GLFSTMFIVE

16th Mar 2006, 10:28

Rumour has it there is a Capt on a Gulfstream V who is in his early 20's flying out of Birmingham, only been flying 18 months, who's father runs the operation.

Looks like his Dad is better than all your Dads put together so there!!!!!

EGBKFLYER

16th Mar 2006, 11:33

:ok: I know someone who isn't even born yet, who's going to fly a jet aeroplane. Beat that!:D

I'd better stop now or this'll get moved to JB:}

JoeCo

17th Mar 2006, 06:47

Yep, right place right time. A connection or two never hurts. However, I'll bet not one of the persons mentioned was in the Canadian system! In Canada you're lucky to have a job in your early 20's, and most of the time that's either in a C-152 at the local flying school or working the ramp up North. Some people have all the luck eh!

checklist69

17th Mar 2006, 11:26

My dog, Chump, can't fly at all. But he's been able to retrieve sticks since he was about 3 months old.

Surely this is a record!

Does anyone out there have equally amazing stories to share?

:rolleyes:

'69

oligoe

22nd Mar 2006, 02:54

Saw in a magazine a L-188 Electra for Air Atlantic who was 23 years old and an A320 captain for a british charter airline aged 25. Well done !

airborne_artist

23rd Mar 2006, 10:30

Mildly OT, but the senior QFI on my first RN training unit had been signed off for carrier deck landings in a Phantom aged 19 and 10 months - I expect he had an experienced Observer (Nav) in the back, but no stick, no vote!

Red Hackle

24th Mar 2006, 16:16

We have lots of 20 to 22 year old FO's on A330, B777 and A345, doesnt go to their heads either so whats' the big deal or have I missed something?

jr of dallas

24th Mar 2006, 18:51

yeah what's the big deal......???? you can be stupid at all age anyway :confused:

UB6IB9

25th Mar 2006, 06:09

i was able to kiss my elbow at the tender age of 3

cheers

TiroP

25th Mar 2006, 08:37

.... and I could blow smoke-rings at 7!

TP

:ok:

Lizard5T

27th Mar 2006, 13:07

We have lots of 20 to 22 year old FO's on A330, B777 and A345, doesnt go to their heads either so whats' the big deal or have I missed something?

well, am pretty ignorant at this, but it seem to me that the difference could be that you don't need 1000 hours to get a type rating on big tinware... Or did these 20 to 22 yr olds also have to get those sort of hours (by themselves) to be accepted for their type ratings?

Craggenmore

29th Mar 2006, 16:34

Rumour has it there is a Capt on a Gulfstream V who is in his early 20's flying out of Birmingham, only been flying 18 months, who's father runs the operation.Do you know the name of this company? He used to be in my groundschool class 18 months ago!!

DUAL RATED

30th Mar 2006, 11:27

Dennis Vanguard

GusHoneybun

30th Mar 2006, 13:33

Saw in a magazine a L-188 Electra for Air Atlantic who was 23 years old

The chap was actually 21 when he got his command. Another chappy flying for that mob got his mitts on the ATR just after his 21st birthday. They like 'em young.

suchiman

30th Mar 2006, 17:53

I would hope its a rumour that some chap´s son who just got his ticket 18 months ago is capt. on a G5. If it´s true it could practically be described as criminal missconduct and if I were the owner of the A/C and found out I would not be very happy at having had my self and family put at risk.

Margarita

30th Mar 2006, 20:50

suchiman

31st Mar 2006, 18:16

Margarita: As long as the owner knows what the Captains experience is and accepts it, its ok. All I am trying to say is that if he doesn´t, say because the A/C is under management and he/she asks no questions, he/she is getting some very bad service.
Someone that got their license 18 months ago, I don´t care who´s son they are, is not ready to be safely in charge of a G5 in world operations, or any other type. If he´s "co-captain" ok, but not to be in charge.
Anyways, insurance would laugh at the proposition, so it must all be a rumour.

GLFSTMFIVE

2nd Apr 2006, 17:18

Have it on good authority, I bumped into to the pilots few weeks ago in Europe, Flying as Capt' on a FAA CPL not enough hours for ATP yet.

After passing FAA CPL IR went straight to Flight safety GV course you may have seen the ad' for flight safety father son team train with Flight safety awhile back.

Lucky guy!!

Craggenmore

2nd Apr 2006, 17:53

GLFSTMFIVE,

Was there any sign of a Maltese Girl in close proximity per chance?

GLFSTMFIVE

2nd Apr 2006, 18:02

Never met him, only what ive been told by the other crew

Trevor the lover

4th Apr 2006, 09:03

Mark Fallon, fully qualified F111 pilot in the RAAF at age 19. No real big whoop but was actually officially listed in a military aircrew digest as the fastest teenager in the world (F111 - mach 2.3).

Unfortunately spudded in and was killed in 1987 on a night training mission.