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Hi fellows,
I have been planning to go back to far east as I am getting some tired for low fare carriers.
Air Asia took order of 200 units from Airbus last year. Does anybody know the current situation of Air Asia at the moment and do they hire A320 pilots from western countries???
Thanks&Regards
confirm-finals?
8th Mar 2006, 11:05
Yes and I heard big intake around June/July...
But I heard DCA put a block of western pilots as of last week? Anyone heard anything else?
Cross Check
8th Mar 2006, 13:32
Cadet entry is frozen until next year and there is around 200 cadets in the system already.
Ultimately any non-Malaysian pilot wishing to fly for a Malaysian airline will require the "blessing" of the DCA and Immigration (Labour) - this requires the employer to justify that a non-Malaysian is vitally required. DCA is putting their foot down because there are plenty of starry-eyed aspirants hoping for a RHS spot on the A320 - whether or not they can actually fly remains to be seen. Commanders may be a different story however and that remains to be seen also.
Put it this way - and I'll let you be the judge - one of the guys recently went to get a A320 rating abroad in the belief that it would provide longevity in the company when the 737's go... just found out that his 737 contract will be his first and last :{
fhchiang
25th Mar 2006, 03:54
hmm.. u all mean
DCA malaysia is trying to reserve as many jobs as possible for local fATPL holders?
Latif-Returns
26th Mar 2006, 07:14
Why not? Wish I came out of MFA and straight on an A320...:)
I would be ready for that with my 200 hours :ok: :ok: :ok:
kwaiyai
30th Mar 2006, 01:14
At Least I would be flying and not under a Mushroom if at MFA:p
ilov3s3lina
4th Apr 2006, 12:45
does AA gives opportunities to Fresh Pilots?
on their website, the requirements is
Malaysian ATPL or Frozen-ATPL. so, is the recruitment open to freshie?
Cross Check
4th Apr 2006, 13:11
Yes they do however the Cadet Program is currently frozen until next year. None-the-less, keep an eye on the website... details are always subject to change... it's a common practice around here :suspect:
Why not? Wish I came out of MFA and straight on an A320...:)
I would be ready for that with my 200 hours :ok: :ok: :ok:
It is very common too for ab-initio pilots coming out from SIA cadet program to fly RHS on A320 (Silkair), B777 or B747 with about 200-250 hrs. It is their luck to be given such oppurtunity compare to other pilots in other place who weren't in the program but may clock more hours.
mohd_harris
7th Apr 2006, 10:23
It is very common too for ab-initio pilots coming out from SIA cadet program to fly RHS on A320 (Silkair), B777 or B747 with about 200-250 hrs. It is their luck to be given such oppurtunity compare to other pilots in other place who weren't in the program but may clock more hours.
I hear that Air Asia is selling F/O Seat to the expats:{ .there is agancy bring expats to Malaysia and convert their license at MFA and after converting their license to Malaysian ATPL work in the Air Asia B737 F/O or A320 F/O.Check this out men.http://www.jetlink.lu/
How do u think about it?
I hear that Air Asia is selling F/O Seat to the expats:{ .there is agancy bring expats to Malaysia and convert their license at MFA and after converting their license to Malaysian ATPL work in the Air Asia B737 F/O or A320 F/O.Check this out men.http://www.jetlink.lu/
How do u think about it?
Come on guys..this is year 2006. The world is a competitive place. We cant have the government trying to block this and that for the welfare of their own people especially in a sector like aviation. Look at the region around us..go to an airport and u will see so many eurasian faces all pilots for Asian carriers how do we feel? I believe we have the candidates for captaincy but why get forigners? Becos simply they are more experience, have more exposure, got lots of hours and type rated. That is why. Lets just accept the fact that airline companies will take in the best of the best and to be fair to all let the best candidate get the job irregardless of race, language or religion. :ok:
I hear that Air Asia is selling F/O Seat to the expats:{ .there is agancy bring expats to Malaysia and convert their license at MFA and after converting their license to Malaysian ATPL work in the Air Asia B737 F/O or A320 F/O.Check this out men.http://www.jetlink.lu/
How do u think about it?
If u read in other thread, Malaysia DCA & Labor Dept. would 'try' to make the RHS available to local pilots as much as possible.
Of course this is difficult since AA is in need of pilots. Those AA cadets in MFA will take around 3-4 yrs before they checkout. MAS pilots would probably prefer emirates etc. than AA if they wanna leave. So, no choice but to hire expats pilots to plug the shortage.
CAT IIIB
8th Apr 2006, 07:52
Look at the region around us..go to an airport and u will see so many eurasian faces all pilots for Asian carriers how do we feel? I believe we have the candidates for captaincy but why get forigners? Becos simply they are more experience, have more exposure, got lots of hours and type rated. That is why. Lets just accept the fact that airline companies will take in the best of the best :ok:
Is that so?
Well,I have 10000TT hours from crop spraying,gliders,microlights and flying kites.Am I qualified?
mohd_harris
8th Apr 2006, 09:29
There is a agency selling Air Asia f/o seat to the expats.What i heard was they pay 60k to 80k USD :eek: to the Japanese Agency.then they will bring u to the MFA convert ur CPL or ATPL to the Malaysian ATPL after that u work in Air Asia.Do the Endosement course in Air Asia.No previous Jet experience and no endosement is required.Are they qualified to fly??
I think somebody in our management is making a pocket money lah!!
There is a agency selling Air Asia f/o seat to the expats.What i heard was they pay 60k to 80k USD :eek: to the Japanese Agency.then they will bring u to the MFA convert ur CPL or ATPL to the Malaysian ATPL after that u work in Air Asia.Do the Endosement course in Air Asia.No previous Jet experience and no endosement is required.Are they qualified to fly??
I think somebody in our management is making a pocket money lah!!
Not sure abt the agency thingy but other thread was talking abt expat pilots paying for their own conversion course in AA. I guess thats AA way of keeping 'low cost'.
SQ, for example, do hire experience pilots without jet experience (type rated in ATR, Fokker 50, etc), but they go straight to learjet course with cadet pay for a while.
Being Malaysian myself, I'm not suprise to hear 'someone' make pocket money out of that deal.
AIRJAE
10th Apr 2006, 14:59
does anyone know the name of agency that AA is dealing with? besides
agency mentioned above....looks like eaglejet kind of businesses are
getting popular...
Cross Check
10th Apr 2006, 16:17
I strongly suspect AK and EagleJet have parted company for good. Too many "issues" with administration. AK now primarily dealing with PARC.
AIRJAE
11th Apr 2006, 06:46
what Mohd Harris heard gives me an idea that it is not eaglejet scheme...
as far as I know, eaglejet does not offer TR course. So it looks like somebody else doing
almost same thing with eaglejet.
mohd_harris
11th Apr 2006, 16:33
does anyone know the name of agency that AA is dealing with? besides
agency mentioned above....looks like eaglejet kind of businesses are
getting popular...
I will ask expats f/o.when I fly with them next time.
european champion
11th Apr 2006, 16:52
I think it used to be Oxford flying school and Parc Aviation running a scheme with Air Asia,they were sending their cadets who graduated to go do a type rating with them and get some line experience,im not sure if they still run this scheme.Anyone knows who is their agency now?
AIRJAE
11th Apr 2006, 16:57
THANKS MOHD HARRIS LOOK FORWARD TO HEAR FROM YOU SOON
AK6312
12th Apr 2006, 14:10
There is a agency selling Air Asia f/o seat to the expats.What i heard was they pay 60k to 80k USD :eek: to the Japanese Agency.then they will bring u to the MFA convert ur CPL or ATPL to the Malaysian ATPL after that u work in Air Asia.Do the Endosement course in Air Asia.No previous Jet experience and no endosement is required.Are they qualified to fly??
I think somebody in our management is making a pocket money lah!!
mohd_harris you are Right there is 6 Japanese in MFA.I met them at MFA and doing license conversion to Malaysian ATPL.2 are going to fly A320 and 4 are going to fly B737 in Air Asia.According to them their Job in Air Asia is guaranteed:eek: .and after the License conversion they will fly in Air Asia.they told me that there are 4 Japanese in Air Asia and they also paid to the same agancy.How come DCA allow them to work in Air Asia??
There are a lot of job less local pilot on the street nearly same flight experience as the Japanese in MFA.why:{ ??Just because they got a money so they can come here and work.whats nice country!:sad: !
Chrome
12th Apr 2006, 14:27
AK6312,
Only 2 are offered Airbus slots you say. The 737s are being phased out. Do you think the other 8 are GUARANTEED Airbus slots? If that was the case, all of them would be trained for the Airbus slots.
But 10 Japanese pilots in AK doesn't make it "lot of job less local pilot on the street". AirAsia WILL employ the privates graduating from MFA. That is why there are no more AirAsia cadet intakes. 100 planes man, that's 1000 pilots. There are only nearly 300 pilots in AirAsia now. How many graduate from MFA every year? Do the math kid. And to my knowledge, the 4 already in AirAsia has more flying hours or had flying jobs before. Hardly the same "flight experience". The ones in MFA probably has hours too.
Latif_Strikes_Back
23rd Apr 2006, 17:39
AK6312 dont you think an airline wants to choose the best pilots for there carrier? I can assure you as an ex-MFA student the pilots that come out of that brothel are not JET let alone PA28 able.
I beleive these Japanese already have 1000+ on singles and twins. I would assume that they have travelled the world and worked for small operators to get there time up before moving across to Air Asia.
DCA should NOT have the right to stop anyone working in this country. Thats the whole problem with MAS! The can't employ people that actually know how to run an airline because they are not malay.
Sad when you think about it...
Cross Check
24th Apr 2006, 01:56
:hmm: I think you will find the Japanese pilots coming onboard are part of a little forward planning for things to come. Use ya noggin' a bit and you will find future expansion strategy in the nationality mix... been proven three times already :bored:
AIRJAE
24th Apr 2006, 08:02
Don't knw how many hours those japanese pilots have..but one thing for sure,
their agency is only asking CPL/IR
ilov3s3lina
24th Apr 2006, 16:04
hello..
does AA only take private student from MFA?
or they also take those from HMA?
but i know they take LOCAL Student who went overseas for CPL
boeg747
29th Jul 2006, 22:41
Do anybody know the name of agency that Air Asia is dealing with?
If you know, please tell me.
flyr_flyer
30th Jul 2006, 05:33
I hope the are legal with the documents.
RVR1600
30th Jul 2006, 11:11
What a hell DCA allow bloody Xpats to come here and work in malaysia:*.We Should kick them out:ok: .Where is the Agency???In Malaysia??
mingalababya
30th Jul 2006, 12:29
No previous Jet experience and no endosement is required.Are they qualified to fly??
Now I know what AA mean by their slogan, "Now everyone can fly"! :hmm:
Malaysia Boleh!
flyr_flyer
30th Jul 2006, 14:53
maybe should try ASEAN passport or the right to live or work in m'sia :)
halfscaledelfection
30th Jul 2006, 15:24
most definitely PARC...when i do see the coupla jap guys there, i'll ask for the name of their agent
GTR-34
1st Aug 2006, 20:38
We are in an era called Globalization...i think the country can't keep out expats from coming in during a massive expansion period like the one AA is having. Thats the fact of life :) even countries like India and China are opening up..Maybe the DCA can come up with some local restrictions but don't think they can stop expats coming in.
RVR1600
2nd Aug 2006, 07:36
I hope the are legal with the documents.
off course not a legal.I will inform labor department about it.:ok:
Why they keep taking xpats f/o here. they will leave when they get a Hrs men.Take a local lah.Now should be ok wor 300cadets and private students are coming from school wor.
Chrome
2nd Aug 2006, 15:00
RVR1600 like some other people here really like to get rumours going. I am still waiting for anyone to tell me that there are Japanese pilots in AK flying the Airbus or even training for the Airbus. Because they aren't any.
I hope you do go and make the report. I am sure you won't get anywhere because an airline is not your local mamak restaurant. They have an AOC and goodwill to protect wor.
PFS TO 100%
3rd Aug 2006, 02:04
All you conspiracy losers be advised that the Japanese will be joining the F50 fleet with FAX so dont worry about your precious A320 jobs. This is based on real evidence from AirAsia and the Japanese pilots themselves who I have met personally.
Get a real hobby, or maybe a girlfriend to relieve some of that washout pilot tension!!!:ok:
No Mate!
3rd Aug 2006, 02:39
No Mate!!!!
ToPocHi
3rd Aug 2006, 03:18
All you conspiracy losers be advised that the Japanese will be joining the F50 fleet with FAX so dont worry about your precious A320 jobs. This is based on real evidence from AirAsia and the Japanese pilots themselves who I have met personally.
Gentlemen, it's true. I personally know them, and they're all going to be joining FAX. One of them has already graduated and is already undergoing ground courses for FAX in Seremban. Cheers.